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Great story!, enjoy the ride. Might want to consider an impact vest and a helmet so you aren't on the shelf so long.

The Unit was the only wing I ever regretted buying. Everything about it seemed cheap. From the beach umbrella bag to the beachball valve on the wing, to the lack of a pump adaptor. Upon closer inspection, the stitching was poor. Nothing about it screamed quality and long-lasting. I sold that thing after 3 weeks. Took a loss, but was glad to be rid of it.

That the foil set up is what I started on. I was perfect to get my 190lbs up and out of the water. Starboard has a good system, their only problem is production, I couldn’t get another parts last year so ended up selling my system for an Armstrong. Maybe they’ve ramped up their factories this year.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Mast length
« on: July 12, 2021, 02:53:36 PM »
I ride the 72cm Armstrong on a 5’4” 95L board. When I tried the 85cm over a couple of days I noticed a couple of unexpected things. Riding higher was the expected and was nice over the ocean chop here on Maui.

1, On my shortish board, the extra weight of the 85 was sinking the back of the board while on the water, I either had to stand much more forward on the board, causing the whole board to be underwater,  or move the mast forward almost an inch which changed all the foiling dynamics.

2, The other thing I noticed was that on the rare times when touch-downs happened, the extra length of the 85 caused my short board to hit the water at such a steep angle it pearled and was not able to skip and recover like on the 72. I got thrown over the front of the board at great speed and it hurt!

I went back to the 72.

Reporting back! Thanks for the feedback!

I've ended up with mast forward (an inch shy of full forward) and the +1 shim. That's helped a lot with lift and today was able to fly in sub 15mph winds. However, my front foot is now too far forward from the strap inserts. Next run I'm moving the mast 1 inch back (2 inches from front of the track) and changing to the 0 shim.

Anyone here tried the -2 shim? How much is the drop in speed from using this shim?

Try to make more subtle changes. Move the mast 1/4 of an inch at a time at most. Try with the +1 if that’s what you been riding. Next time, leave the mast where it is, then change to 0 shim. Too much changes gives readings all over the place and it’s hard to figure out what change did what.

Saw a bunch of V2’s at the board shop. 2.5-6.5. Anyone have any info on these?

I wipe them down with a towel at the beach before rolling them up. Much faster than waiting for them to dry.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Board Bags
« on: June 08, 2021, 04:01:00 PM »
Armstrong makes great bags.

Just sold my 6'7" wing board and Starboard 2000 foil set up. It's an ok board to learn on, but there are way better options. As a SUP surfer myself, I am partial to Starboard and that's why I got the wing-board. But I believe that Starboard really missed the boat on this one. They are too much of a SUP maker and not a Wing board maker, so they made a narrow SUP with a foil track.

The 6'7" in lite tech is too heavy! In the beginning you will be carrying your board a lot while doing the walk of shame. The handle on the board only allows you to use 3 fingers, not your whole hand. This led to a tennis elbow issue that I'm still doing PT for. I wish they had installed the great handle that's on their SUP's, and made the thing 5 lbs lighter.

I would suggest getting something in the 115L-ish sub 6 foot range. Like a Quattro wind drifter, Kalama, Fanatic... Short and fat is the shape of wing boards, not long and skinny.

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: May 30, 2021, 11:43:50 PM »
incredible -- love my 2019 foresters -- and im not a big truck person -- but clearly i have bought my last gas powered vehicle -- great vid -- short sweet and owned me.....

and who knows if itll be ford that compels in a couple years when im shopping, and i , too, will likely want a small van or suv, but clearly the products will keep wowing us......

Go check out the the VW ID.4, The Hyundai Ionqui 5

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: May 25, 2021, 02:43:47 PM »
What Ford is doing with the Mach E, and now the Lightening is very significant. From their own data, folks buying the Mach E are new customers to Ford. I suspect that the Lightening will do the same. This means they are stealing market share from other car makers!

VW is doing the same with their ID.3 & 4, here and in Europe. The legacy automakers are realizing that EV's are the way to grow their customer base.

Just wait for the Transit EV coming out later this year,  the Rivian R1, the Ioniq 5, and the EV 6. Our choice of EV's to bring our toys to the water is about to get very interesting.

Random / Re: Electric Surf Vehicles in 2020
« on: May 24, 2021, 04:35:12 PM »
Late to this thread, but I've put 105,000 miles on a Soul EV as my surf vehicle since 2015. So EV surf cars are already a reality.

Went and checked out the ID.4, Mustang Mach E, and Model Y last month. Any of those would be a good surf, SUP car.

As for EV's as power packs, here on Maui, we do get outages once a year or so. I've often looked at the battery pack in my EV, thinking it should get me through a couple of days of powering the house. So I got an inverter that clips onto the 12v battery. When needed, I just hook it up, turn on the EV and it'll power a few things around the house.

The F150 powering the house is a great killer app. Why pay the $10K for a powerwall when you can put that towards the extended range of the truck and get the bi-directional charger installed for free?

5m for bigger guys. The light bulb went on for me when I switched from a 4m to a 5m. Being “over-winged” in the beginning is a good thing. Foil time is what is important. You won’t learn much if you can’t get on foil.

When you get better you can always buy a smaller wing. You just have to accept that this is a fast evolving sport and moving on from gear is part of the experience. In the 9 months of doing this, between the wife and I, We’ve bought and sold around 7 wings, 2 foils and 2 boards.

Try asking at your local board shop, they might have some laying around.

Right now, wing companies seem more regional. The brands we have access to here on Maui aren’t the same ones in Aus/NZ, the Euros have their own brands. Some folks order stuff online, but most buy what’s in stock at their local board shops. It’s almost like cars. There are many brands in the world, but they are not offered everywhere and people buy what is available locally. So there aren’t “too many” wing companies, there are just lots in different places.

As for sticking to “known” brands, that strategy has had mixed results for me. It all depends on how much R&D the company is doing for winging. There is a big “local name” board maker who made a bunch of boards for the first Wing Surfers, the boards never made sense to me. Then I found out that the owner does not wing, and has no interest, thus the boards are off. For my first board, I went with my favorite SUP company, but they too weren’t into winging, so their shape made no sense either.

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