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Foil SUP / Re: Balancing on Barricuda Style Boards
« on: March 05, 2023, 11:20:57 AM »
I have been using a 6,9 by 20 for a year now, the secret for me has been bending my knees.
Other tricks put your foil as far forward as possible this increase stability.

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Foil SUP / Re: To those who have paid their dues on foil in the surf:
« on: January 29, 2023, 09:32:16 AM »
SUP Foil is basically all I do now. This is coming from someone who SUP surfed probably 150 days a year. I'm 42, 175 lbs, and SUP surf wise I ride around a 100L board (8'2 x 27.5").

1. Learn to foil initially with something that doesn't involve you powering it up. I learned to foil with a kite, having time on foil and understanding the mechanics is key before trying to do it with a SUP.

2. Learn somewhere with crumbly waves, this is the hard part, I didn't see where you live, but you need crappy, mushy, barely breaking waves. Luckily, where I live those are available a bulk of the time. Something in the knee to waist range, barely breaking.

3. Board wise, definitely go for more volume (not length) and just suck up that you will progress and need a smaller board. It's better to have a bit more volume to learn with so you don't become aggravated, yes, you could attempt a 90L board, but I wouldn't advise it. Paddle wise if you aren't already, head length, it's crucial to not have too long of a paddle. Foil wise, you are good to go with the 1550.

Board progression, here's mine:
1. JL Flying-V 6'5" 115L - great board to learn on.
2. I tried to progress too quickly in dropping volume, Naish Hover 95L, great when I could catch a wave, too much of a pain.
3. 5'8" 105L Kings, great board to progress, except it delam'ed after 6 months.
4. 5'2" 105L Kalama E3 - current board, I have no desire to go any smaller, blows the Kings out of the water on initial catch (even as a smaller board).


All of them are in the 28.5" range on width, width is key for stability.

I'm same weight as you and ended on a 5.0 kalama E3 95 litres, I'm absolutely in love. Never say never until you try.

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Foil SUP / Re: To those who have paid their dues on foil in the surf:
« on: January 28, 2023, 09:47:09 PM »
SUP foil is not easy, but it is way more fun than regular sup; you just need to put the time and select the right equipments. Why people (some) go to schools for every other sport other than SUPfoil?

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Foil SUP / Re: Weight Matters
« on: January 28, 2023, 09:41:23 PM »
Any board over 13 lbs, it is a no go for me. As people progress I do not see any future for production boards over this weight.
Once you try a 12 lbs, and realise that you can use a smaller foil, pumps better and moves better. It's all over.
Production companies should stop doing those heavy boards, they are just stoping people getting into sup foil. Which is not bad ;)


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I had an E3 105 liter and it worked fine with the Axis foils. If you're using Armstrong or an advance fuselage then the tracks will be too far back for you to use the foot straps.

I use the E3 5.0  and Armstrong, I have no problems.

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!
« on: December 09, 2022, 06:17:29 PM »
@SUS4Life yes.. this makes sense to me. You're on a 100l board at 81kgs.. Im 95kgs on a 106l board and looking to go to a 137..maaaybe the 7'3 would be the best cross over (at 128litres) but that ratio makes sense to me. My 106l is basically a good trainer for SUPFOIL but a beginner/light wind WING FOIL board which is right where I am at the moment. I think I would take buoyancy (instability) over a smaller board because of the light conditions I am trying to get up in.

Thanks for the credit. I have a lot of people now asking about getting into the wave earlier and longer skinnier boards; which I highly recommend and use for downwind bay runs.
But then these guys see me using my 5,0 Kalama in the waves they freak out. Just to be clear, for small waves (1m), it is always more fun to use a smaller, more agile board. Getting into waves early is fun but requires paddling and consumes a lot of energy.  Getting into a wave at the right moment requires almost no energy.
Anyway, follow your path, and good luck.

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Foil SUP / Re: Foil Videos
« on: November 05, 2022, 09:46:27 AM »
What's your perfect day?

https://youtu.be/6kjkd3VucPY

Also curious to hear thoughts on Johnny's new board design, he said it feels great.

Do you know the length of the board?

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!
« on: November 01, 2022, 09:51:22 AM »
Thanks for the comments guys much appreciated.

@Hdip The foil Im running is the Naish 2140 Jet HA with 310 stab. Just last night Ive trimmed up the rear stab for more lift. Even though Im 210lbs I do think Im able to get the paddle power needed. The 106litres is just buoyant enough for me, all though I have to say the learning curve was STEEEEP, lol. Just staying on the board in any swell is a rad workout. What Im telling myself is that with some small adjustments in my technique (more weight forward during catch, more paddles strokes & timing of the bounce and unweighting of the board etc) I should be able to get up. Ive just started to subscribe to Casey and the modules he has is helping - massive.

I believe with very little to zero foil oscillation Ive been able to get the board up to speed and been able to feel the stability of the foil. Especially when I time the unweighting of the board. My aim is to be more accurate with the paddle pump/driving of the front foot and unweighting so I can get the board & foil to start that sine wave. Im hoping with some small timing and technique adjustments, Ill be off and foiling - Hopefully:).

@pafoil Possible but hard - seriously just what I needed to hear! Possible is what I was looking for! I surf/kitefoil as well and I know with the help of a wave it would be much easier. I dont have that locally, just the wind and tidal/wake swell you see in the videos. Thanks for the insta link. The board looks stellar. The more I think about it the game is to start of the board oscillation/pumping in small wavelengths to build up the power and speed without burying the nose and killing the speed. You are bang on with a board that is longer narrower I would be able to do that easier. Ill give it a go on my current setup for now.. but thanks for the heads up as I think you are bang on.

Thank you again for the comments! Cheers!

I started with the same board. Good luck!

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Foil SUP / Re: My SUP FOIL Journey Begins!
« on: October 31, 2022, 10:40:27 PM »
Hey guys.. Just thought I post a video showing session 14. My timing is still off. (love to know if you guys have any advice on the pump timing). I think Im not putting enough front foot pressure down on my sprints. The oscillation required to gain lift on the foil is not happening ... Im too worried about the nose being buried. Anyways having waaay more fun now. Im starting to feel the power of the foil 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4PXN1i0xCk

What you are trying is possible but hard. The equipment selection is not ideal for flat starts or catching small bumps. The board is heavy and the foil, perhaps small for your weight. I believe it has been said that you should go first to look for some small rolling waves.
I you still want to catch the waves saw in the video, then I would suggest a longer, lighter and narrower board; a bigger foil and a bigger paddle. 

This is the speed feeling you get per stroke on a narrow board (board 6,9 by 20 , foil GT2200 for 175 lb weight, paddle vdrive 101)

https://www.instagram.com/p/Chwpy06obJu/



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There seems to be mixed feelings about the board.  For me, the width is a no go, specially in the bigger sizes.
After riding 22 and 21 inches wide boards, I have no interest in a board over 22 inches. Reaction, tight turns, etc are much better under 22 inches.
These wide boards are good beginner boards.
For now, I’m staying with my 5,4 by 22 KT drifter.

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Foil SUP / Re: Best paddle for foil sup
« on: April 26, 2022, 02:09:54 PM »
I hear the popular kids are using the "Quickblade Ono Ava 105 SUP Foil" these days
Supposedly it has a bit more angle to the blade which helps keep power a little deeper into the stroke.  Its also quite large.
I had the V-drive 101 and UV88, the catch in the 101 is much better. The UV88 for sup foil, felt like not having a blade after using the v-drive 101.  The 101 has 10º and the Ono ova 15º blade.
I would  order a big ono ova if they had a better shaft and/or warranty policy.
I ordered a V-drive 101, took 3 month to arrive and it was broken in half in 1 month trying flat starts. The answer, no warranty.
I would not recommend to spend much money in a big paddle until you master the technique, actual SUP paddles are not ready for the increased initial resistance of sup foil. I may be wrong, but this was my 3rd broken shaft in a year.
I broke a few big bladed paddles years ago and switched to a smaller blade.
Now I am trying to get up on the foil on flat water and very small not braking waves and I was thinking of getting a QB Ono Ova.
But I don't feel like breaking a paddle esp without warranty.
How much do you weigh Pafoil? And can you just replace the shaft of a QB paddle? QB doesn't have a stronger shaft as an option?


Hi I'm like 180 pounds. In their defense; I would say that I have a very poor paddling technique, and tend to use my biceps too much. There is a lot of initial resistance in the board foil combo, so if you go to hard seems to be the perfect combination.
 Now I'm back in extensible shafts, they seem to be more resistant.

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Foil SUP / Re: Best paddle for foil sup
« on: April 24, 2022, 02:34:11 PM »
I hear the popular kids are using the "Quickblade Ono Ava 105 SUP Foil" these days

Supposedly it has a bit more angle to the blade which helps keep power a little deeper into the stroke.  Its also quite large.

I'm not sure I want to go back to such a big paddle head, but I may switch to Quickblade.  Does anyone know the difference between the V-drive and the UV series?

I had the V-drive 101 and UV88, the catch in the 101 is much better. The UV88 for sup foil, felt like not having a blade after using the v-drive 101.  The 101 has 10º and the Ono ova 15º blade.
I would  order a big ono ova if they had a better shaft and/or warranty policy.
I ordered a V-drive 101, took 3 month to arrive and it was broken in half in 1 month trying flat starts. The answer, no warranty.

I would not recommend to spend much money in a big paddle until you master the technique, actual SUP paddles are not ready for the increased initial resistance of sup foil. I may be wrong, but this was my 3rd broken shaft in a year.




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Foil SUP / Re: Wingfoil board for supfoil?
« on: April 24, 2022, 05:18:22 AM »
I wingfoil will work if you have the right paddling technique and have access to good non crowded spot. You can catch the white water with small boards, but I have not seen anybody catching an unbroken wave in an small board.
I have been trying to introduce some friends into sup foil, all with very good sup background. All that tried with wing boards failed and dropped the project.
If you want to get into sup foil get a proper board.
After 2 years, I'm going long and narrow, but it has been a process. Now I don't want something wider than 23,5, it does not matter the conditions.

You SUP a 23 wide board?!?!?!

Yeah, thats what I was thinking, what are you 130lbs?

I wingfoil will work if you have the right paddling technique and have access to good non crowded spot. You can catch the white water with small boards, but I have not seen anybody catching an unbroken wave in an small board.
I have been trying to introduce some friends into sup foil, all with very good sup background. All that tried with wing boards failed and dropped the project.
If you want to get into sup foil get a proper board.
After 2 years, I'm going long and narrow, but it has been a process. Now I don't want something wider than 23,5, it does not matter the conditions.

You SUP a 23 wide board?!?!?!

Yeah, thats what I was thinking, what are you 130lbs?


I'm 180lbs. Foil forward in the box and center footstrap makes a big difference.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CcZfXoIjqpV/


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Foil SUP / Re: Wingfoil board for supfoil?
« on: April 17, 2022, 12:02:58 AM »
I wingfoil will work if you have the right paddling technique and have access to good non crowded spot. You can catch the white water with small boards, but I have not seen anybody catching an unbroken wave in an small board.
I have been trying to introduce some friends into sup foil, all with very good sup background. All that tried with wing boards failed and dropped the project.
If you want to get into sup foil get a proper board.
After 2 years, I'm going long and narrow, but it has been a process. Now I don't want something wider than 23,5, it does not matter the conditions.

You SUP a 23 wide board?!?!?!

Yes, 23,5  to be more precise. Full rails, and foil forward gives a lot of stability. I use it in every condition.

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Foil SUP / Re: Wingfoil board for supfoil?
« on: April 14, 2022, 10:17:37 PM »
I wingfoil will work if you have the right paddling technique and have access to good non crowded spot. You can catch the white water with small boards, but I have not seen anybody catching an unbroken wave in an small board.
I have been trying to introduce some friends into sup foil, all with very good sup background. All that tried with wing boards failed and dropped the project.
If you want to get into sup foil get a proper board.
After 2 years, I'm going long and narrow, but it has been a process. Now I don't want something wider than 23,5, it does not matter the conditions.

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