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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Getting Off the Back Foot

« on: January 27, 2023, 07:42:46 AM »

This is right where I am. I can switch on the water but can't consistently land the flying foot switch. I've been practicing in the living room as well. Hoping muscle memory kicks in soon.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 25, 2023, 07:59:47 PM »

I end up doing 3 or so coats of the slurry. But it's all basically sanded off each time. You're just trying to fill all the pinholes which takes a few times. Then the last light spray of primer will show you if you got them all. If not, fill those and be done.

Adds zero weight. There is never truly a hot coat. Just fill coat, sand that and then slurry til the pinholes are gone. Why add 5-6 oz of resin? Because one thick coat is faster. Again we are back to production building vs custom for the lightest board and more time and money. This is partially why I build. We can do things in the garage you'd never want to pay someone to do.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Axis Hybrid boards

« on: January 24, 2023, 08:06:36 PM »

My advice is to try them, don't discuss. Too many people are riding them for them to be bad. Unlike short surf SUP's It seems these work. It's the foil. When we were figuring out small sup we didn't have a giant pendulum/dagger board underneath.

They aren't exactly easy I hear, but neither is foiling. Also, people finally have stopped standing around when not surfing. If we'd done that 10 years ago we'd not have half the bad rep we do in the lineup. 😆

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 19, 2023, 12:57:58 PM »

"The Guy In FL" is DW or Dwight. He's posting here and he's a genius who I have copied mercilessly and with great success for 7 years lol.

Ignore his ideas at your own peril. I experiment only after I try his way. Seldom (never?) do I make things better.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 17, 2023, 05:22:56 PM »

Hard edges on the bottom, yes. Think McCoy.

Round or 45° bevel at least on the top unless you like bruises and painful tacos.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 10, 2023, 08:39:57 PM »

I go peanut butter now. Not runny. I do squeegee one fill coat on first and then sand it all off/flat.

Squeegee the microballoons and then sand with 220 or even 320 between applications. When I think I've got the pinholes all full I do one more application and then I spray it with primer which shows any last pinholes. Fill em and go, or paint.

If you don't wanna primer it you can rub some resin on it with a gloved hand. When Peter says lean he means lean.

By the second application there's almost no material going on. I can do the whole board with like an ounce of material.

I'm digging my results.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 10, 2023, 03:40:39 PM »

Beasho, I get the POUROUS!!!!!!!!!! part. It's done all the time in the Crissy wing crew as you know.

Just contributing an idea for others who might follow this path. I no longer finish my boards with hot coats. I use Peter's slurry method. They still get sealed. They are light as hell. They don't delam. Sanding isn't a pain. Try it guys.

One thing to test. Although the foam won't absorb water, check the weight when you get out. Water retained under the carbon will still likely add more weight than a few grams of resin and microballoons. Would love test results on that if you build one.

Pro tip. Gorilla Glue foamed up can replace K-Y jelly and it's lighter.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Ultralight Board Designs

« on: January 10, 2023, 06:43:26 AM »

I like a lot of these ideas.

Peter J has worked on the box thing. Carbon arrows, or use 1/4" pieces of balsa laminated with carbon like I did. If you want light and not as many dings use 4oz glass everywhere but structural places (nose/tail for example.) Fill it like Peter (and the SF wing guys do) with microballoon paste instead of hot coat. Super light.

There are skinning methods that help waterproof eps (epoxy slurry like Kings, etc)

Don't tell your hippie bay area friends you're building big foam things that may not last long. But yes, this is doable. It's basically a race car construction.

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Prone Foiling, Surf foiling, Pump Foiling / Re: Swim Missiles

« on: January 07, 2023, 10:02:35 PM »

Me too, but it's mostly because I'm a cheap bastard. Mark is too.

Dave Daum just blew my mind. I'm going to go have a Mai Tai and think about this. Maybe I went the wrong way on pressure (well, vacuum, but it winds up being pressure), but it worked...   ...sometimes.

Pono, Tarquin, maybe I got lucky but I use that crap aquarium pump reversed and it's flawless. I just realized that it's accidentally probably doing exactly what Dave does. Low pressure but I always get the carbon on and never crush blanks.

I do get a little lean lamination on the outer glass layer from time to time but my fill coat fixes that and the boards are pretty bomber. Accidentally hit the sweet spot with that hack. Who knew?

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Prone Foiling, Surf foiling, Pump Foiling / Re: Swim Missiles

« on: January 07, 2023, 09:51:38 PM »

Accessorize : )

I'm thinking of trying these.  How are they on the shoulders?

Chan, sorry, I dropped out of this thread. I use Amazon bands and they work great with the swimming motion. I do sets of 40-50 strokes which simulates paddling back out for a wave. I also hang from them leaned back and they help keep me in shape to hang onto wings when I take my all too frequent month long breaks from riding. So far it's made a real difference for me.

For those struggling to pop up, stretch your hips. If you do that you can pop up. It takes forever if you're not 25 but you can build flexibility over 40.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Print to Ride

« on: January 04, 2023, 06:40:03 PM »

This is all looking really cool guys.

I think this wing/fuse/mast thing is really cool. What's the reason everyone puts the wing out in front of the mast anyway? I know ride engine/slingshot had a foil you could mount like this for Wind Foiling I think, right?

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Foil SUP / Re: eFoil Etiquette in the Lineup

« on: January 02, 2023, 08:08:03 PM »

"Hey man, don't ride that here. Go over there."

Problem solved. Local problem, local solution.

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The Shape Shack / Re: Print to Ride

« on: December 26, 2022, 07:57:38 PM »

When you starting to print stuff? I wanna hear about the stress tests. If this works it's a game changer. I'm following this across two platforms now. Come on!! Haha

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Travel, Trips, Destinations / Re: Intermediate SUP surf spot on Oahu?

« on: December 26, 2022, 07:48:48 PM »

Ok, you're older and have surfed. The ideas here are right on as far as North. Watch the report closely, swell comes up quickly in HI, but those spots are solid options and most folks will takemit easy on an Uncle.

If you find a board, east side can be a good safe haven if it's big.

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Travel, Trips, Destinations / Re: Intermediate SUP surf spot on Oahu?

« on: December 25, 2022, 01:58:19 PM »

Gene,

Give us so info so we don't get you beat up or drowned.

How long you been surfing? How long you been SUP surfing? Where do you normally sup surf? What kinds of waves (and size) are you comfortable with?

North Shore til April (at least) can be dicey without local knowledge imho.

Hard to beat renting a longboard in Waikiki and just proning in the best place to learn on earth.