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SUP General / Re: What to do when caught inside?
« on: April 15, 2021, 09:48:43 AM »
Yes, do a search. About 10 years ago we covered this in great detail.

"Tail Handle" will get you some great stuff. I even think I had a thread on "caught inside" from when I was new and figuring things out.

In the end, for myself only (!!) I adjusted to a certain size and to be honest, stopped going out in certain size waves at certain types or breaks. When it's big, I ride a traditional surfboard. I just found them easier to manage in a lineup. Others here SUP surf waves that I'd never go out in at hollow beachbreaks that I simply couldn't get comfortable in. For me, "know your limits" and "what's the outcome here?" were important points. For myself, bigger than 2-4' isn't fun on a SUP due to to managing the gear. And having fun was why I do this so it was an easy thing to figure out. That's just me and I hope folks will respect that. Feel free to share your own feedback.

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Yeah, I was saying that it would flop over as a good thing. The pull will keep it upright and it'll be easy to hook but if you laid on the board you could fold it over, unlike one with a base.

I think this is really the right answer here.

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Classifieds / WTB - Gong Curve XL
« on: April 13, 2021, 09:54:24 PM »
Come on guys, whoís got one in the garage now that youíre on the Veloce?

Iím about to place an order with our friends in France and wanted to check before I hit the button. Whoís holding?

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Jon, yeah, if you surf these things there will be collateral damage. At least a $100+ repair.

But what Beasho is describing is safe and looks insanely fun. I went out this last weekend and there was a cross swell once I got out in open water that was about waist high and perfect. The Wind Gods were against me however as I foiled out to the swell and the wind died. I spent the next hour furiously pumping in no where near enough wind in hopes of catching one of those waves. Iím hooked now. Itís exactly what I hoped would be out there.

Also, weirdly, I realized that Iím never out that far except in a boat and in boats I donít notice the subtle swell patterns. Really cool to be off shore and watch the swell roll and cross and mingle. Fascinating, even if I couldnít ride them that time.


Beasho, everyone I know too surfs in surf stance and switches for a break or upwind as Dwight said. Once exception is Robert from Blue Planet who seems to just ride toeside and not switch.

Iím going to start a thread on toeside as I cannot get comfortable with it. Iím sure like all things ďwingĒ itíll click one day soon.

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Foil SUP / Re: Foil graphics
« on: April 13, 2021, 07:58:48 PM »
Yeah, if you engrave take a few minutes to check Inkscape. Worth the time.

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https://standupmagazin.com/en/2021/04/the-wing-overload/


Insane overload of companies making these things. Itís either going to be huge (?) or everyone is going out of business soon.

His main point to me is that things are too confusing for a beginner, too many options. Heís right that a beginner can use most any wing to get going.  Donít get locked up if youíre trying to figure it out. Just get any known brand. Damien LeRoy said the same on a video recently.

Crazy times in wingland.

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Foil SUP / Re: One problem with forums...
« on: April 09, 2021, 02:21:52 AM »
This is a classic. I do want to report that here in LA there is a 4 mile downwinder that multiple guys are doing (and more attempting) on prone and SUP.

There are a few runs starting to be found. On our coast. So while Maliko is the gold standard, know that a lot of coast should be downwindable. Try it. Our crew (and the Oahu bunch) say you need to be able to do a 4 for 1 pumping to really downwind. Or cheat with a wing!

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Gear Talk / Re: Glue for pump?
« on: April 09, 2021, 02:15:49 AM »
Tom, just checking that you know how to work your valve. You turn the inner part til it pops out to make it one way. You press and turn the other way to make it stay open.

Should be no reason to keep a hand nearby when disconnecting. The air stays in until you open that valve. Iím sure you got this sorted but just in case.

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Yeah, I think beyond the plastic itís that it will fold over due to the lack of a wide base.

These are exactly what I was dreaming of. 3D printed vs CNC is interesting. Someone test this.

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Thanks guys.

And thanks for the insight on the 3.5. Thatís sort of my fear with the tighter more grunty wings. Iíd assume that you want that grunt at the 10-15 range but less so as it gets stronger.

Iím looking to go up to about 30 and cheat 35 gusts.

Bigmtn, Iím going to try an Ensis but Iím thinking I want something with more ďgiveĒ right now on my top end. I figure about the time I want to move on from my 5m Swing I can replace that with something with strong low end. But when itís blowing here in lower wind we will see 15-25 gusts so you have to have something with some ďshock absorberĒ built in. I can feather the swing pretty well and cruise.

Sounds crazy but when itís blowing I want to be underpowered for now.

Keep an eye out for 3mís for me Maui and OR guys.

Iím also tempted to do what I did with wings and buy a set of Gen 4 Gongs to test and sell if they donít work. Iím about to buy a high aspect foil from them to complete the experiment before I decide if I want to move on to the inevitable Axis quiver that is a rite of passage in LA. Hahaha

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Thx guys.

I had the same experience VB. Damienís videos really helped me connect the dots on pumping the wing. Scooping with a catch like paddling helped me. I now pump through lulls that wouldíve dropped me.

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Ok so looking for another wing for the higher wind days here (20-30mph mostly.)

I have a Swing 5m and am 140lbs (63kg.) Iím comfortable on this from about 12mph to low 20ís. At my weight, 20 is rocking with a 5 and Iíd like to drop a size.

The question is do I go to 3m or 4m? Iím leaning towards 4 as I think that might be an easy overlap and 20-30 is about the best days we see in SoCal.

But 3 would give me more range on top for trips to where the wind really rocks. Whatís the real world low end on a 3m wing at my size? Or am I fine with a 4 and just borrow or buy a 3 when I make it to the islands?

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Humility, especially saying, I was wrong, is precious and rare in our society.

Most truly successful people mine it regularly.

I sweated the standing trim on my first board a ton. Hope I got it right on this one lol.

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Foil SUP / Re: The first foil ban?
« on: March 31, 2021, 08:15:50 PM »
Yeah, but I live in SoCal and if there was going to be a problem itíd be here first.

So far we arenít killing people.

This post is like two years old and the body count is still zero.

But you all remember when SUPs in the lineup killed all those kids in 2010, right? So sad that the fake news refused to cover the great SanO massacre.

I think weíre good here. Regulate your break and things will be fine. Like always.

Sorry if I seem reactive but Iím just trying to head off 200 foil hate threads like we had for SUP. hahahaaaa

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SUP General / Re: Fun for the whole Family.... even the Foil Crew!
« on: March 30, 2021, 08:04:21 PM »
Dude, youíre a legend.  The foot sweep from the lip is so familiar to me.

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