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My friend picked up his 4M Duo-Tone Foil Wing yesterday and we headed out on Lake Union near Seattle to test it out on a 11' SUP (Jimmy Styx w/ a small tail fin). Wind was between 3 - 10mph. It was fun and mellow, a similar sensation to light-wind windsurfing on a big board. The wing felt great in my hands and I can't imagine using a wing without a solid boom. At this point I think DuoTone has the right design. I need another session in a bit stronger and steadier wind to determine whether it's as-fun or more fun than light air windsurfing. The harder the wind blew the easier it was to hold up the wing. In light air (less than 5 mph) it got tiring to hold up the wing.

We weren't staying up wind very well yesterday (we had a chase boat following us around). That could have had to do with the light wind, the small fin on the board, or lack of experience w/ the wing. I would be curious to hear others experience with going upwind w/out a foil.

I posted a similar question in the Foil Surfing section, but since I won't be using the board for foil surfing at all I figured I would post it in the applicable Wing section to see if anyone had insights...

I'm looking into getting my first SUP foil board exclusively for wing foiling and downwind wing foiling. I found a great deal locally on the Slingshot Air Strike 7'8". Do you guys think this would be an adequate board for wing foiling and down winding with the wind wings? I had a chance to examine both the SS Air Strike and the new Fanatic Sky SUP 7'0 next to each other and the Air Strike was surprisingly noticeably lighter. They're both huge however in terms of width and thickness (at least in my eyes). I'm trying to determine if the Air Strike will work just fine and I can save a bunch of money compared to the latest foil SUP's. I weigh 175 for reference.

Another question regarding foil weight. If I was to get the Air Strike board I would likely get the SS Infinity 84 foil setup because I can get a package deal. I've read this is a heavier foil setup than other options (Fanatic, GoFoil). How much will the weight of the foil effect performance for winging? Would I be able to pop-up and ride on the foil in significantly less wind with a lighter foil setup?

Foil SUP / Slingshot Airstrike 7'8" Reviews & Experiences?
« on: June 22, 2019, 04:36:28 PM »
I'm looking into getting my first SUP foil board for downwinders and wing foiling (when my wind wing finally arrives). I'll likely be using the Slingshot Hover Glide FSUP foil w/ the big Infinity 84 wing. Being inland, I don't make it to the coast often for surfing, so this board would be used primarily for downwinders and wind foiling.

Does anyone own one or has tried the Slingshot Airstrike 7'8" board? What are your thoughts and experiences with it? The price is right, but I'm worried it's going to be a bit too much board for me (heavy, wide, too much volume) and that it wouldn't be very fun to ride due to its large size.

Thanks for posting the pics, the quality of the SPG wings looks great! I'm curious to hear how the double-strut design performs on the water!

That wing looks awesome Pono! Can't wait to hear what you think of it on the water!

From the shops that I've talked to it seems DuoTone was the first manufacturer to ship wind wings, with some shops already receiving their first batch of DuoTones. Unfortunately the first batch was in much smaller quantities than anticipated. The shop that I had mine reserve through were supposed to get a dozen of the 5M DuoTones, but they only got one 5M. And apparently DuoTone only shipped six 5M wings for the entire country in the first batch. So good luck getting one of those. 

Slingshot and Naish are supposed to ship their first batches in early July. It appears the theme is the same for all 3 manufacturers, they aren't shipping very many and if you haven't put a deposit down or reserved one, it's highly unlikely that you will get a 4M or 5M Wing (regardless of brand) before mid-August. It appears the 3M DuoTone may actually be available to buy now with delivery to your door by next week from a few shops that I've talked to.

By next summer I'm sure that all brands will have their Version 2's of the Wings out with lots of stock and they will have ironed out any kinks in design after everyones tried them and provides feedback. It's a shame that they couldn't get these wings released sooner this year for those of us living in cooler climates!

It looks like a lot of shops in the NW and national shops now have demos of Wind Wings from the major manufacturers - DuoTone, Naish, Slingshot. Who out there has had an opportunity to test or ride any of the wings? What was your experience and thoughts on each?

Do the floppy handles really detract from controllability in your experience? Does the Naish really have a loop on both the leading and trailing edge to hook up a paddle to use as a rigid boom? This seems like a great feature that is a nice compromise for travel. Does the Slingshot wing have that capability?

I have a deposit down on a 5M DuoTone Wing, but a shop I just talked to was saying their favorite is the Slingshot due to the rigidity from the inflated trailing edge. It looks like the next 4 weeks is when the first batches from big 3 brands will be reaching shops across the nation.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: What's coming
« on: May 20, 2019, 05:06:58 PM »
What are your thoughts on the SPG dual strut design vs Naish's single strut? Has anyone had a chance to try either one?

Foil SUP / Re: Safer Foils?
« on: March 25, 2018, 08:35:27 AM »
Would adding thin rubber guards around all edges of the foil be a solution for safer non-high performance foiling for beginners and amateurs? Like a rubber nose guard ... For those that are willing to sacrifice some efficiency and performance for safety?

When I see the clearwater foil designs and this old home-made design - (super thick mast), it seems that wings and masts don't have to be razor sharp or thin in order to fly.

Gear Talk / New Toy! Naish Nalu 9'6 - Review w/ Pics & GoPro Video
« on: April 17, 2014, 05:10:31 PM »
I picked up a new 2012 Naish Nalu on close-out - it's the 9'6 x 28". I have ridden the older 10'6 x 28" Nalu extensively and loved that board, so I took the leap hoping I could handle its shorter brother.

In short, I love the board and I'm so glad I went with the skinnier paddles very quickly and catches waves effortlessly from knee high to well overhead. Once you're on the wave it is SO much faster over all parts of the wave than the wider boards I've ridden. It took a day or two to get used to the width (and I own tippy boards in choppy water, such as a Javelin on a windy Round The Rock), I fell off 10 times just waiting for waves my first session on this Nalu. After that I would rarely, if ever, fall off...even when kicking out of a wave or punching through white water. The smooth longboard feel combined with quick acceleration and turning is just what I was looking for. It's too bad Naish doesn't make this board anymore, I think it's a real gem. Stoked!

Here's a vid multi-tasking being camera man and surfer 8) watch in HD!

Gear Talk / Re: Naish Nalu 9'6 x 28" - Experiences?
« on: January 29, 2014, 03:25:04 PM »
Awesome - thanks for the feedback guys! I'll be picking it up!

DJ do you have any thoughts on this board? Or the 9'5 Hokua (thinking about picking this up as well for the girlfriend, cuz you can ship two boards in one bag on the plane)?

Gear Talk / Naish Nalu 9'6 x 28" - Experiences?
« on: January 28, 2014, 06:03:22 PM »
I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a used '11 Naish Nalu 9'6 - it's 28" wide and is 135L. I'm 170lbs. Experienced paddler.

Does anyone have this board or have any experience or thoughts on this board? I've ridden the 10'6 x 28" Nalu extensively and loved it, picked up the smallest waves with ease but could surf well in overhead surf. But am worried losing the foot in length will sacrifice glide and ability to catch smaller waves.

How does the board glide on smaller waves? It will be used for surfing waves from 2' (most often) to 8'+ (a few times a year in Hawaii) and wakesurfing behind boats in the summer on the lake.

Any help will be greatly appreciated!

Downwind and Racing / Re: Leaving Monday for Maui for 3 weeks
« on: December 05, 2013, 09:44:05 PM »
We arrived on the island last week - I have never seen the wind so light day after day, and the forecast calls for more light wind. The surf should get a nice bump on Sunday :)

Here's a shot I took this morning

Gear Talk / New SIC Bullet: Steering System - Cables Unraveling/Fraying
« on: November 08, 2013, 06:59:38 PM »
My new Bullet 17' arrived today - very excited, but bummed to see that the steering cables are fraying at the ends, leaving it impossible to feed the cables through the holes in the cable rod to setup the steering system. Any ideas? Has anyone seen this before? They fray immediately and start unravelling when feeding the cable through the little holes in the cable rod. (pic of cable rod attached for reference).

You guessed it, this wasn't a Maui built board.

Gear Talk / Re: Ninja Fin sticks out too far off back on Javelin?
« on: June 07, 2013, 08:59:03 AM »
Thanks guys for the feedback on your experiences with the same setup, and thanks Larry for chiming in! Lot's of great info, I'll stick with the Ninja

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