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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 19, 2019, 05:40:39 PM »
I think a big part of my problem is what everyone has said:  I look at the cams and it doesn't look worth it so I don't go.  If I just went, I would probably find something.  Oak Island is the exception, I will never go there again expecting surf.  Nice place but terrible surf.

Yeah Oak Island sucks for surf, and probably even worse in the summer with the SW winds. Check surfchex - WB regularly. Should be decent next few days actually.
I have been paddling out to Yaupon Reef from Oak Island largely because the surf is typically smaller. Loaded with gear and paddling with guys in fishing kayaks, low surf is good. That SW wind pushes you back to shore when tired too. But for surfing? Cross the Cape Fear to the east facing beaches.

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General Discussion / Re: SUP Booby Trap on YouTube
« on: June 18, 2019, 08:41:05 AM »
Pretty amazing stuff on the skim board.

The skim guys are incredible.  They are taking big waves on the head in 6 inches of water.  How they regularly survive that is a mystery.
He's pretty humble, saying he was lucky on which waves he chose when he in reality he was up in the air doing spins while the wave was crushing his competitors then dropping down behind it and coming in like it was nothing. He did take a few on the head also.

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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 17, 2019, 05:38:35 PM »
So while I was out paddling a couple of miles off the NC coast, we had our third shark attack of the month about 20 miles away...

https://www.wral.com/nc-coast-sees-third-shark-encounter-this-month/18457020/

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General Discussion / Re: Which transport method to use?
« on: June 17, 2019, 05:05:06 PM »
oops wrong thread

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I usually never go far offshore on board, so I don't loose shoreline out of view. My Garmin watch has navigation though. When I go kayak fishing I have navigation/chart plotter on fishfinder and handheld VHF  - both would be too bulky for SUP.
I go offshore with kayakers to fish and I just got a HH VHF. I am going to start wearing a paddling vest instead of just the belt and clip it on. It's as much or more for chat as anything else. I do have my phone in a waterproof pouch packed away, but could pull it out pretty quickly to use as a GPS. I have a really small waterproof compass clipped to a block in my ledge handle as a last line of defense. I am in NC, so heading west (or NW if down at Oak Island) would get me to shore in a SHTF situation. Not that landing would be much fun in a situation like that. Best hope it never comes down to that. I have been 4 times so far and each time got to about 2 miles out at the furthest, in good weather and able to see land the whole time. I will still feel better with the VHF.

I forgot to mention. I consider my VHF bulky because it's floating and not the smallest device on the market. On another hand, it has built-in GPS and  DCS function. I registered in with USCG so they would get a GPS location if distress signal is activated.
I do have to admit that one of the driving forces behind the decision for me is that I just carry gear on my touring board and I am not going to get any sophisticated electronics. These are friendly trips, not competitions, and people freely share info when they mark fish, bait and structure. We fish artificial reefs and it's piles of stuff here and there, not one big connected structure.

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I usually never go far offshore on board, so I don't loose shoreline out of view. My Garmin watch has navigation though. When I go kayak fishing I have navigation/chart plotter on fishfinder and handheld VHF  - both would be too bulky for SUP.
I go offshore with kayakers to fish and I just got a HH VHF. I am going to start wearing a paddling vest instead of just the belt and clip it on. It's as much or more for chat as anything else. I do have my phone in a waterproof pouch packed away, but could pull it out pretty quickly to use as a GPS. I have a really small waterproof compass clipped to a block in my ledge handle as a last line of defense. I am in NC, so heading west (or NW if down at Oak Island) would get me to shore in a SHTF situation. Not that landing would be much fun in a situation like that. Best hope it never comes down to that. I have been 4 times so far and each time got to about 2 miles out at the furthest, in good weather and able to see land the whole time. I will still feel better with the VHF.

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General Discussion / Re: Which transport method to use?
« on: June 17, 2019, 03:38:51 AM »
Well, hell. We wasted all those perfectly good electrons.
Probably a few lurkers soaking in the info.

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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 17, 2019, 03:35:38 AM »
Yesterday down at OI it was a lot rougher than predicted but much of that was a somewhat local storm a few miles out. I paddled out to Yaupon Reef with the kayakers, but I couldn't take but a few hours of the near constant paddling I had to do to keep from crossing the reef too quickly. I am getting a drift sock this week. It wasn't huge swell, but it was a confused sea with waves from two directions and the wind. There were white caps all around and it was like 3' chop with an occasional larger wave rolling through.

Anyway, we went out about 6 am and I got back to the beach just before noon and the tide was out. After a short rest, I paddled out to the second bar and it was perfect for me trying to learn to get on small waves on my battle ship as they would crest, break and then kind of turn back into small swells that were breaking on the beach. Very short rides, but just far enough to learn about getting on a wave, then paddling back through smallish breakers.

It would have been disappointing if you wanted long rides with bigger waves. The Outer Banks usually has larger waves. It's a bit further but it's a nice place to visit if you haven't been.

Also, there are big waves in advance of the big storms. I went down to CB and took a longboard prone lesson a few days before Florence last year.  Waves outrun the storms by a few days; the weather was still nice. It was kind of weird seeing people outside under a bluebird sky boarding up houses and businesses. I certainly don't wish for storms, but if they get near our coast, there are some waves.

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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 15, 2019, 09:46:45 AM »
The current situation ~1.5 miles offshore at OI:

That turned out to be someone in a different group out at TI which faces east like WB (OI faces south; sometimes surf differs quite a bit).

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General Discussion / Re: Which transport method to use?
« on: June 15, 2019, 09:43:52 AM »
krash,

Look into hood loops:

https://www.amazon.com/Sherpak-Built-U-S-Hood-Loops/dp/B0024ALDMS

I have a pair. Bolted in, flipped under so you don't see them most of the time and just pop the hood and pull them out to haul. I feel a lot better with it pulled to both sides with separate lines. I am hauling a 14'x30" touring board and my bars are further apart than yours on my 4 door Elantra, but not as far apart as you would think because of the curve of the roof and the "fin" for the satellite radio.

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The reality of SUP now is that it is beginners on inflatables that they bought at Walmart for 150 dollars. There are 500 of those in Europe for every one person who foils. So foils and all the other off-piste devices are so niche that they aren’t worth worrying about. Fine if you live in the right place, have the right income, and have the time to develop the skills. But for the rest of us, moaning about these activities is like moaning about ski jumping. Why bother? How is what these people are doing going to affect you?

Back in Roman times there are written reports by of the elders complaining that youngsters are racing their new chariots around the city too fast. That’s what you do when you get old and feel creeping irrelevance coming on: you start moaning about everything that the kids are trying. Don’t ask me how I know this :)
Wing foiling isn't just a niche; it's a niche within a niche within a niche. The vast majority of SUP paddlers don't surf. Most SUP surfers aren't foiling. I am less sure about how many foilers will try a wing, but probably still a minority.

Maybe Mistral has some loyal customers asking them about foils. If their business is dropping off, I doubt foils are the cause. But I think he is right about how everyone gets fixated on the latest innovation. In my mind's eye, I can see myself using a wing and I talk about them with other paddlers and read up on them. The reality is I will probably never own one unless they get so popular that cheap knock offs start showing up. If they start renting them at the beach or someone I know gets one I might try it.

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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 15, 2019, 06:25:25 AM »
The current situation ~1.5 miles offshore at OI:


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General Discussion / Re: Bummed with North Carolina Surfing
« on: June 15, 2019, 06:19:17 AM »
It's all a matter of perspective. A bunch of my fishing buddies launched their yaks from Oak Island around 6:30, headed out about a mile and a half to Yaupon Reef. I will be down there tomorrow.  WindFinder says 2' waves today and 2.3 tomorrow. Winds, even gusts, below 10 until mid afternoon. They aren't always right, but one of the guys streamed a little while ago and it's Lake Atlantic out there. I know our hopes are at odds, but I hope tomorrow is a carbon copy.

I paddle with kayakers because I have trouble finding other SUPs to go offshore. Plenty of guys inshore with those double hull Live "SUPs" or hybrids like the Vibe Maverick. Fortunately most of the kayakers like to troll and some are out of shape so I can usually keep up okay. A few weeks ago I went with a fit group that didn't troll on the way out to the reef about a mile and a half from the Jolly Roger Pier at TI and it about killed me trying to keep up with them. A couple of nice guys stopped to mess with their tackle before they got to the reef so I didn't feel so isolated.

A couple of times when we came back in early and I still had a little in the tank, I have worked on learning to surf my battleship (14' x 30" Glide) and the tiny waves are great for that, as long as I can find a spot where I won't kill anybody.

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Kind of reminds me when the CEO of AOL Time Warner held an All Hands in the wake of new competitors like Yahoo and Google and announced the future of information delivery in the wake of the internet is subscription models...  This is classic Clayton Christianson's innovator's dilemma and graveyards are filled with companies that are unable to evolve to new business models.
There are also some headstones for companies that jumped on the next big thing too quickly and the actual big thing ran them over. I think the foil is an actual big thing and they should go ahead and bolt them on to all their floaty things. I am not sure whether the wing will be as widely embraced yet. They are sold out everywhere until August but I don't know how many Naish made to start with. It may still evolve some. It looks like a Skimbat mated with an iRig and this is the first generation. Will it change substantially? How quickly will the market saturate? I think those kinds of questions are keeping the small guys up at night.

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https://www.mistral.com/confused-you-should-be/

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With the development of the foil, this has created a contentious conundrum in water sports which has advocates wanting to bolt a foil onto anything that floats in the name of progress and the way of the future.

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‘Wing Surfing’ is now the latest must do, revolutionary diversionary idea, seen as the best thing since bottled beer or sliced bread. But already the jokes have sprung up about it, with images of umbrellas being used, bed sheets and other amusing anecdotes. Add to this a foiling board and we have ‘Wing Foiling’, accepting you have to wonder if the evolutionary steps are in the correct order and as to whether those who can foil, will be satisfied with the lower limits of speed and elevation when compared to their option of Kite Foiling?

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