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I put a Blue Planet Tuttle/track strongbox into my old reliable Kalama board for surfing. That's one seriously stout box, I'm not worried about breaking that thing out. If I do the board will probably be in many tiny pieces. I'll sand it and hotcoat it in the morning. Now I can use both GoFoil and Axis foils with it. I also installed one of blue planet's handles on the bottom. This poor bugger is getting a bit heavy. I got a delam on the top and bottom a year or so ago and I fixed that, which added some weight. I also installed a mast track back when I thought I might try windfoiling. It's probably picked up five pounds with all this amateur hacking. Still a great board though, I'm looking forward to surfing it. My wife insists on reading my little message to myself as "Try Pono Be" instead of "Try Be Pono". That's as close to Pidgin as I get other than saying "Wheah you stay?"

Random / Re: Surfing Quotes
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:29:52 PM »
I'll dislike the guy because he's a perpetual liar. Astonishing Doper. Survived the shame with a bunch of money. I guess Maui loves him?

Not me.

Gear Talk / Re: KeNalu Paddle Catastrophe
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:19:14 PM »
I don't know--I sold my interest in the company long ago, before the Mana's were designed. Lane Mead was the paddle designer, I was in charge of marketing, sales, and building the tech to test the paddles.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Big Echos
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:14:46 PM »
I would if I could. The line for the first big slicks is stupid long.

Random / Ghetto McClaren??
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:10:15 PM »
Well not exactly, but I hope someone knows the story behind this. The last few times I've driven up Ohukai Rd I've seen a Blue and Carbon McClaren, parked on the apron in front of a fairly ordinary-looking house. No garage, no cover, out in the blazing sun with it's spectacularly expensive bodywork getting oxidized and UV'd in the tropical sun. I don't know McClaren models all that well, but it looks like maybe a 720S, or potentially, with all the zooty carbon, an even more expensive model. In theory, you might be able to buy a McLaren for $200K. In practice, you're more likely to spend something north of 400K. I have no idea how you would get it serviced on Maui, or even do an oil change.

There has to be a story here. I'd love to know it. I've never had a chance to drive one of these, I've had a couple of Ferraris, and between those and my old Maserati I'm kind of over the exotic car thing, but holy shit, that's a great looking ride.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Big Echos
« on: April 16, 2021, 09:59:36 PM »
I fully expect most of the issues to go away. I started wingfoiling with duotones, and liked the small sizes. the big wings in even moderate wind were a handful. I'm glad to see that isn't the case with the echo.

Random / Re: Surfing Quotes
« on: April 16, 2021, 11:07:36 AM »
The Lance Armstrong quote is just weird ??? That guy doesn't surf.

Something tells me you've never seen him surf. I haven't either, but what else has he got?.

Here's my quote:
"You should have been here yesterday".

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Jumping!!!!
« on: April 16, 2021, 11:04:31 AM »
I'd love to jump, but the first time I tried it going over a wave at Ka'a my knee ached like crazy for a week. I'm going to have to try it with an unloader brace.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Big Echos
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:55:25 AM »
I tried my new 7M echo yesterday afternoon in a light wind at the harbor and was reacquainted with all the issues of a no-strut wing. Like the tail sinking when you're getting started, and the weight of the boom. The boom is also hard to grab, which seems strange, but it's behind the huge leading edge. When I grabbed the boom too close to the leading edge I had some challenges getting my back hand on the boom. All that is a matter of getting used to the wing, but it surprised me a bit, and I struggled a bit in the super-light (10mph) wing, both getting to my feet and pumping onto the foil. I would have had a much easier time with a 6M F-one, but again, that's because I'm used to them.

No comparison in upwind performance, the Duotone goes upwind nicely, with a good stable feel, but compared to the F-one strike, a close reach is more like a broad reach.

It sounds like I didn't like the wing, and that's not the case. I think I'm going to really like these, but that going to take a little time. The performance and handling are much better than the 7M Airrush I was using in SoCal. I had some doubts about the string thing to manage the wing shape and keep the center of effort from wandering, but I was wrong, it works really well. The wing had none of the shifty feeling that the 1st generation large Duotones had. Smooth and powerful. I'm looking forward to trying the 6M now.

Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Ensis Wings
« on: April 16, 2021, 10:48:46 AM »
I got to try an Ensis wing--a somewhat flogged 4.5. Beat up enough that I felt comfortable trying it (I don't mind lending gear, but I generally hate borrowing). The power was remarkable--more like a 5.0, I liked the handles, and I like the way the wing feels--very easy to fly, I know what Admin means about the camber-induced feel. But just like a camber-locked sail, there's no off switch. With the wing pretty much straight overhead I was still accelerating and felt out of control a few times. I could get used to this, I think it might be the ultimate light-ish wind wing design.

No question it's a great hook, easy in and out, and no accidental releases. I need to be a little more disciplined. Or get a lesser hook that compensates for my limited attention span.

Gear Talk / Re: KeNalu Paddle Catastrophe
« on: April 15, 2021, 10:35:26 PM »
Send a picture to Lane. He'll probably offer you a reduced price on a replacement blade. and yes, you can still sand it and fix it. At one point we did a "forever paddle" warranty that sold replacement parts for damaged components at cost of production plus shipping no matter how the damage occurred. Blades are the highest cost component, but not expensive to ship. That was a long time ago, but the idea was simply to keep the cost down for repair and encourage continued use.

SUP General / Re: What to do when caught inside?
« on: April 15, 2021, 10:51:21 AM »
Here are 19 pages on tail handles in case you're really bored. https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,25430.0.html  There's been a lot of progression in how to make these things. It's surprising that no manufacturer ever paid attention to this, even with their beginner boards. Bill Foote considered them to be a bad idea--I never got him to try one, so it wasn't because he knew better. I've seen him swimming for his board numerous times.

Doing it wrong IS dangerous, as my damaged fingers will attest. A pissing match between me and Sam Pae over my stupid interpretation of his design led to the damage, my complete capitulation, and my friendship with Sam. Doing it right is a game-changer. As long as the surf is mushy I'm totally comfortable being caught inside in surf that's well past double overhead. If the surf is pitching and breaking top to bottom, then don't use the handle. In those conditions, you need a strong leash and good luck.

Incidentally, waist leashes put MORE strain on a leash than any other attachment--they pull your body sideways, it's extremely difficult to streamline yourself. I love them, but not because they reduce strain--I make mega-strong leashes to go with them. I love them because they don't injure my already screwed-up legs, and the high drag pulls the board out of the wave--very short leash rides even in big stuff.

I was holding forth on hand-tied, strong leashes once and Laird told me I was totally wrong, that an ankle leash that's thin but long was the way to go. Less drag, and you can streamline yourself to let the leash pull you out of the impact zone. I tried it, broke the leash like it was overcooked spaghetti, and got to swim in from the outer reef. That's the problem with taking advice from godlike beings. I'm not godlike. Dave Kalama told me I should repair broken leashes by melting the broken ends together. He rightly said they never break in that spot again. Indeed, they break right next to it. He doesn't care, he breaks leashes all the time and just considers it a nice opportunity for exercise. I consider it life-threatening. I saw him out at Tidy Bowls once with a leash draped around his neck. He explained that when his leash breaks he didn't want to have to go all the way in to replace it. I'm not doing that either.

I think cowboy is right. As much as I like my Dakine Maniac hook, every time I crawl up onto the board and forget or neglect to move the hook aside I'm digging at my board. I haven't done any obvious damage yet, but it can't be good. Yesterday the southside in Maalea Bay was a maelstrom. I fell on almost every jibe and I was using my harness on every reach. In the distraction of getting the shit beaten out of me every time I was down in the water I forgot to slide the hook most times. I can see little dents in my pad where I crawled up and dragged the hook.

Like the graduate--"Plastics is the answer". I may be dating myself. 

SUP General / Re: What to do when caught inside?
« on: April 15, 2021, 09:34:56 AM »
Tail handles have been an endless topic on the zone, and any high-volume board benefits greatly from them. If you have one and learn to use it you'll be amazed at how minor a thing getting caught inside becomes. Having your board hit the end of the leash becomes a rare and generally avoidable thing.

Any leash can and will snap if it's taken to its limit, they break everywhere, but often they break where there has been prior damage. If a leash has been stretched hard, replace it. Yes, they aren't cheap, but no one wants to have a leash that will never break, in fact, they are designed to stretch and break. If you push them anywhere near their limit, the next time the limit will be a lot lower. If you aren't using a tail handle and have had your board hit the end of the leash hard in five sessions then your leashes have already had a pounding. I mostly foil now, but for many years in big Hawaiian reef break surf I might have my board hit the leash hard two or three times a year, and I got caught inside a lot--tail handles are my answer. 

I test all my leashes to failure every year just before I leave for the mainland. I tie them to a car bumper and pull them until they break so I can see where a particular brand or design is failing. So, for me, every leash fails. I like the cuffs and swivels of leashlock. I'm using one now for my wing foil board. But there isn't much stress on leashes with wing foiling.

If you want a stronger leash, then hand-tied ones are the strongest. I've tested many, some I made myself. They always fail in the middle of the urethane and at a level of pull that I hope I never experience.

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