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3. Unsure where you posted your board FOR SALE, but at 1400 euros, I would have bought it in a hurry (even though it was a 14x24.75).

In other words, unsure about where you get your facts from.

I had offered the board for a lot of weeks on different platforms (e.g. facebook groups, classifieds, SUP dealer, ...) with no response.

Facts to pricing... I know six Signature owner.
On the old website was even the note that there are team rider prices on request.

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Some thoughts about the price of a Signature/Nelo... I know nobody who paid the full price of 3600 EUR. Almost every Signature Owner is a racer and got the special price from Lightcorp. Just ask for it.
I sold my half year old Signature 1.0 for 1400 EUR because I didnt found a buyer who was willing to pay more.

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1) Did anyone with the board in this thread who owns it say it was tippy ?

Yes, me. I had owned the Signature 24,75 and with my 196 cm and 93 kg it was to tippy for me. In flat conditions no problem, but on our river with boat waves from the side or during the start of a race, it was to tippy. Same board, same conditions and a paddle buddy with some kg and 20 cm less has absolutely no troubles.
For me, the 23 RS is also tippy, but it rolls less. Overall the 23 RS is a little bit easier for me. But also more for flat conditions.

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In fact, YES, we get it: They may be too technical for you, or you may not want to put in the time to feel at ease on them.

But why spend time when you can have fun on a different board with zero effort?

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Its not so much boredom as the pursuit of the best paddle stroke technique I can manage. Its so much easier to get a technically good stroke on a narrower board (assuming you can balance on it), and I find that even 1 narrower can make a difference. I suspect that I am like a lot of people who arent in the first flush of youth, which means that the sweet spot for optimising the balance/technique equation across various conditions is between 26 and 24, depending on the exact design of the board.

There you are right. In this case, 24.5 could be a good choice.
I'm 196 cm tall and so for me it's not so important, although I feel the difference between 26 and 23 while paddling.
A much smaller paddle buddy is thinking about exchanging the 24.75 Signature for the 23 for exactly the same reason as you.

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Thanks v much for that RS/Signature comparison, Mr Proper. I suspect that your experiences would be the same as mine. Unless you are an elite athlete, stability IS speed (within reason, of course), and certainly is enjoyment as well.

My 14x26 RS is so stable that Id like to get the 24.5. Do you think that youd get on with a board that was half-way between the 26 and 23 in terms of stability? Or would you still use the 26, when it came down to a free choice?

I think I might be fast (for me) on the Nelo for about half a mile. And then Id fall in, and it would be all over. In contrast, the thing that attracted me to the RS was that it was plug and play speed.

your welcome.
For a single board solution, I would definitely take the 14x24.5. I was able to test the 24.5 and it was also stable, more than the 24.5 Allstar. For a race, my choice would be the 24.5, but for just paddling and have fun, the 26 is my prefered board. The 23 RS is for my wife. And for me, if the conditions are very flat and I know, I will have less  waves from the side. So, if you are happy with the 26, I think there is no reason to change. Only, if you are bored about the 26 ;-)

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What does the RS do better than the Signature, Mr Proper?

The 26 RS is a lot more stable than the Signature and also fast. The 23 RS is tippy, similar to the 24.75 Signature, but it does not roll. So for me it is easier to handle. 2018 I paddled 1370 km and I think, about 900 of it was with the RS 26 and I enyoyed every km.
Signature: oh shit, boat waves
RS: cool, boat waves.

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Lightcorp will launch pretty soon the LIGHTCORP GT 14x 21" as well as the Signature 2.0 14x 22"  Light Board Corp

Yep. Bruno sent me a facebook friendship request after the review went up and I could see footage of him testing them. It's the wrong way in my view - they need a 26-28 width version.


Yes, a 25 or 26 width version of the GT in hollow construction could be a very nice board for me. But until it is time, I stay with my SIC RS 26 and 23.
I had the Signature and really like the hollow construction, the low weight and the feel. That I did not get along well with the shape is another story. But I still think the boards are great.

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Lightcorp will launch pretty soon the LIGHTCORP GT 14x 21" as well as the Signature 2.0 14x 22"  Light Board Corp

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Anyone can ask directly with Lightcorp for a team rider price, which is then very cheap. I don't know anyone who has paid the official price, no matter what brand.

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Just for info, I got the 2.0 14x23. They make the 14x24.5 which should be tons more stable, and they make the GT that is even more stable yet.

I am not racing, but I imagine that the GT or the signature 2.0 in 14x24.5 should make advanced and expert paddlers pretty happy.

I had a Lightcorp 14x24.5, but only worked really well in flat conditions. Now I have the SIC RS 14x23 and that seems to me more stable. Although is also tippy, but does not roll.

My paddle buddy with 20 kg and 20 cm less copes with the 14x24.5 Light Corp without problems. Even in downwind conditions no problem.
Sorry for the hijack, but how different is your 14x23 RS in terms of stability and speed than your 14x26 RS? Ive got a 14x26 RS and it is so stable in flat water that Im considering getting the 14x23 too. I probably should have got the 14x24.5 originally, but I didnt realise quite how stable this board was going to be. Now Im not sure that if I get the 24.5 there will be enough of a difference to justify the expense, so am thinking about the 23 instead. However, I once owned a 14x23 JL Sidewinder and found that even at my average weight, it didnt really work well, and was much faster with a light person on board. So if you dont mind me asking, how heavy are you, Mr Proper, and is the 23 useable in the ocean as well as flat water? Recently I was paddling with one of the worlds best elite pros, and he was on a 14x23 RS and fell off it in mild ocean chop (he was turning to talk to a friend, mind you), so I do wonder.

I had the same thoughts too. I think the difference between 26 and 24.5 is too small and that's why I decided for the 23. But also because my wife likes it a lot. For me, it should only be in the very flat, because I'm actually too big and too heavy for the 23. SIC gives a max riders weight of 88.5 kg and I have 93kg at 195 cm.
I usually paddle only on lakes and rivers. On holiday for the sea I have the 26.
Unfortunately, I can not say anything about the speed, since I've paddled the 23 only in wind and waves so far. As long as the waves do not come directly from the side, that works very well. At least I have not gone swimming yet. By the sea, the board will probably be too narrow for me.
I'll report as soon as I can test the board in calmer conditions and say something about speed. At the moment I have the feeling that the cold water costs speed. But maybe I'm just unfit.

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Just for info, I got the 2.0 14x23. They make the 14x24.5 which should be tons more stable, and they make the GT that is even more stable yet.

I am not racing, but I imagine that the GT or the signature 2.0 in 14x24.5 should make advanced and expert paddlers pretty happy.

I had a Lightcorp 14x24.5, but only worked really well in flat conditions. Now I have the SIC RS 14x23 and that seems to me more stable. Although is also tippy, but does not roll.

My paddle buddy with 20 kg and 20 cm less copes with the 14x24.5 Light Corp without problems. Even in downwind conditions no problem.

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I have no transit connect, but a transit/Tourneo Custom. I have built a few furniture modules and so the car is ready to camp in 10 minutes. I also have a diesel air heating, 100ah AGM battery installed.
Some pictures. https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0n5n8hH418njH


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Training, Diet, and Fitness / Re: Strength Training Thoughts
« on: December 09, 2018, 04:11:20 AM »
For me, pull ups, pushups and squats work best. I do it as far as possible every day and takes a max. of 25 minutes. otherwise I paddle 1-3 times a week (does not really work at the moment).

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