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Also possible that instead of a problem with riding switch, its the backward hands that are giving you trouble. When riding normally, your front arm often stays extended and your rear arm flexes to feather/control. When you switch side, you may be reverting to instinct. Your new rear arm (which was you front arm on your strong side) is staying extended, and you new front arm is flexing. That's a sure bet for a nose diving wing.
Just saw a video recently with good advice or a nose diving wing. As soon as you feel the wing turning down, punch the water with your back hand. It will shoot the wing up and keep it out of the water. Tried it this weekend and its a great cue.

+1 on gloves adding to grip fatigue. 2 sessions this weekend, one with gloves, one without. Significant fatigue when wearing gloves (but too much fun to stop).
I only have standard neoprene gloves. Pre-curved ones sound interesting.

General Discussion / Re: What apps for your phone do you use?
« on: January 13, 2021, 08:56:29 AM »
Just checked, and the ventusky resource suggested above has multiple models available, including HRRR.

General Discussion / Re: What apps for your phone do you use?
« on: January 13, 2021, 06:30:31 AM »
The more important question is what wind forecast model you use. That is the CRITICAL question and is more important than the (closely related) question of what app to use.
Bear with me, this may seem in the weeds, but it is super important.  A model is simply a computer program that takes a defined set of environmental variables and compares them to a set of environmental conditions.  The result is an output that says when X environmental variables exist, Y environmental conditions occur. For wind predictions, the environmental variables are likely location and strength of high and low pressure systems, fronts, etc. The environmental condition that occurs is wind speed and direction. Once the computer program understands this relationship, you simply enter in environmental variables (high/low pressure, etc), and the output is predicted wind speed direction. There are tons of different wind models with different goals. If you want to understand general wind patterns across an entire continent, say, to predict the gulf stream in the US, you'd want a model that takes large systems into account and predicts output across the entire US. This would be really important for general weather patterns, but not great for local conditions on your beach. Meteorologists/climatologists understand these model differences and pick and choose which models to use based on what they want to know. No one model is better than another, it just depends on your question. So how about us? Well, it depends on your question. If you want to know general wind trends, a long range, wide scale GFS model will let you know when there may be a wind bump coming. However, if you want accurate predictions for tomorrow morning's dawn patrol, it isn't so good. You need super-local short term forecasts provided by an HRRR model.
Not surprisingly, micro forecast are rarely free, especially through apps. Here's my solution: I pin the following website to my homescreen: igetwind.com. It lets you choose a bunch of different models depending on your question. At the very least, try the GFS model for long range trends, then "micro term HRRR" for short-term, hyper local forecasts. Night and day difference. Again, neither one is better than the other, they just answer different questions.

Technique / Re: Paddle length for workouts
« on: December 02, 2020, 11:05:45 AM »
No strong opinion on paddle length...I like a mid-length paddle for both surf and flatwater, so what do I know.
I do have thoughts on your shoulder position though.  I think your shoulder is rolled forward, compromising your ability to reach overhead. That's probably why the longer paddle feels funny.  Roll your shoulder back into a stronger position for better reach.  If you're a desk jockey like me, this make take some mobility work.
Here's a really simple experiment to show what I mean:
- Stand up tall with your hands by your side.
- Roll your shoulders forward. Ok to exaggerate for effect.
- Now with your elbow locked, raise one arm straight out in front of you and continue up until your hand is above your head to the end of your comfortable range of motion. Make a mental note of your arm orientation.
- Then reset.  Stand tall, arms at your side, but roll your shoulders back.  Look tall and proud like your peacocking at the beach.  Or if you prefer, pretend a drill sergeant is yelling at you. Regardless, shoulders back, chest out.
- Now repeat the arm motion: elbow locked out, raise your arm out in front of you and continue up to the end of your range of motion. Make a mental note of your arm orientation.
- With shoulders rolled back, you will comfortably extend your arm further back several degrees.

Finally, don't forget shoulder mobility on your rest days.  Plenty of online tips, so pick your favorite.  I cannot stress this one enough.  No one mobilizes as much as they should (and its free!).

SouthEast / Re: Wind wing and foil in Charleston?
« on: November 24, 2020, 01:46:15 PM »
Awesome. Good to here.  I'll have to make my way over there at some point to check it out.

SouthEast / Wind wing and foil in Charleston?
« on: November 24, 2020, 05:09:57 AM »
Anyone wind winging/foiling in Charleston?  I've hit the harbor and folly a few times but haven't seen anyone else.

great points. moving the mast has a similar effect as moving foot position.
thx, guys!

Really appreciate the thoughtful reply!
I have a slinghot fsup foil but slapped the huge 99cm wing on it.  There's a great chance the rear wing is mis-sized.
We've got wind this weekend, so I'll try 2 things: 1) moving my foot back a bit and 2) try the stock 84m wing to see if things balance out.

This video has some tips on body positioning and stance to increase your time on the water:

Quick question for the group.  When on foil, my rear leg quad is on fire most of the time.  I have great quad strength, so it isn't a conditioning question.  Do you think I'm putting too much weight on my rear foot? In other words, should weight be equally distributed on both feet (on average)? If so, I wonder if should shift my whole stance a couple inches back.

Eye-opening! I cannot thank you enough for posting this.  I have a modest amount of wind experience, but these techniques completed alluded me.
To move upwind, I was trying to push the entire wing behind me.  I thought if I held the handles close to the nose, it would allow me to push the wing even further behind me.  However, your technique is showing to hold the wing with the handles that are further back, away from the nose and extend the nose out and away from you (I think).
If anyone has any more tips on how to position the wing in the wind, I'd love to hear them. I can get on foil on my strong side through brute force and luck, but these types of how-tos are a huge help.
Big, big thanks!

I thought I was the only one.  This is a huge problem on my v1 Duotone 5m.  Several of the posts above detail different problems, but here is the worst situation:
Before mounting the board, you lay the wing right side up in the water downwind of your board. As you get up, the wind catches the nose of the wing, pushing the nose up while the tail sinks.  When this happens, you end up with wing upside down in the water, nose pointed away from you, tail close to you, and the tail underwater.  Takes herculean strength to pull it out of the water.  But if you don't pull it out in time, the wind will push you and the board overtop of the wing and everything gets royally screwed.  If an inflatable center strut fixes this problem, I may have to move away from the boom.
All that said, I do LOVE the boom while underway.  The single hand hold to rest, wipe water off face, etc, is awesome.

General Discussion / Re: Post-worthy shark tips
« on: September 30, 2020, 07:33:11 AM »
Also, don't forget that millions of dollars have been spent on shark deterrent research in commercial fisheries worldwide, paid by both governments and the commercial fishing industry.  Beyond the very small directed shark fishery, commercial fishermen do not want to deal with sharks. They are not valuable and they destroy expensive fishing gear.  Furthermore, some sharks are not at healthy population levels, so there is an incentive to avoid them.
All this research has produced ZERO effective shark deterrents. Magnets, electricity, chemicals, you name it, it isn't effective. If someone figures it out, it will be the fishing industry because they have the money and incentive.
One more point...don't forget that "shark" isn't a species.  It is a group of species, all with their own life history traits, habits, and niches.  Humans and dogs are both mammals, but cat shit repels the former and attracts the latter. Some sharks are drawn to outboard motors, some sharks aren't. Some sharks seem annoyed by electrical currents, so aren't.  I think it is highly unlikely we'll ever find a deterrent that is effective for "sharks." Maybe we'll find something for tiger sharks, but that may attract bulls.  We may find something for hammerheads, but that may attract whites.

General Discussion / Re: Post-worthy shark tips
« on: September 29, 2020, 06:09:18 AM »
With several notable exceptions (eg avoiding fishing areas and seals) most of these tips are hype and not based on science.  They are simply the author's hypotheses.  As Pono pointed out, shark bites are very, very rare.  So rare, in fact, it would be impossible to use existing data to determine any statistically meaningful correlations between things like "board size" and probability of a bite. Eyes on the bottom of a surfboard? Are you kidding me? Reminds me of the silly Shark Banz bracelets. I bet they have a 100% success rate. You know why? Because shark bites are so rare that it is unlikely that anyone wearing a shark banz would get hit.
I think one important consideration is the type of sharks in your line up.  If there are species that target marine mammals (eg whites) avoiding seals is a good idea and contrast on the surface *may* be important. If you are in southern waters in the summer, you are mostly surrounded by sharks that target fish (eg blacktips) that will give you a nasty bite if surprised but are unlikely to hit you at the surface based on contrast.
Yes, I recognize the 2nd paragraph is full of MY hypotheses.  But at least I present it as such and not as fact.

I have that same 28" board.  I have a garage full of other boards, but keep coming back to this one.  Love the way it paddles and surfs.
But yes, that narrow width takes some concentration.....

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