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Thanks for passing this along. Really helpful.

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Has anyone that's ridden both of these boards and is willing to offer up a comparison? I plan to purchase one of them at 135L, mostly for winging on an Armstrong CF 2050 foil. Armstrong DW is 8'3", 21.5", 135 L and the KT is 8'4", 22", 135L. I currently ride a Naish 110L foilboard and I'm looking for something with more pitch stability and earlier takeoff. I'm pretty comfortable on a foil, but have only connected a handful of jibes. I also have significant paddle surf experience. While I plan to use the board for winging, I may experiment with foil surfing and boat wakes. I weigh ~195lb.
From what I can tell, the advantage of the KT is that it may release from the water a little easier. The Armstrong may be built a little tougher, though. It sounds like the Kalama Barracuda is still the best design, but I hear the foil tracks are too far back for Armstrong foils. Plus, they max out at 111L which doesn't sound like a ton of fun. I've played the game of chasing small boards across disciplines and I always seem to regret it.
Any thoughts about the Armstrong and KT boards? Really appreciate the help!

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This is a lot to think about and I've learned a ton. Thanks for all the insight. I really appreciate the multiple perspectives.

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Ok, fair enough. Removing the area measurement from the equation.
Anyone have experience with the 99cm wing that can suggest another wing with similar lift that I could consider? Definitely interested in Armstrong from all the internet hype, but open to others such as the Axis foil suggested by DW.
I'm trying to avoid the usual trap of falling for a higher performance piece of equipment that exceeds my abilities. Just want to try another foil that will be similarly easy to lift.
Thanks all!

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190#
Naish 110L
5m doutone slick
13-20 knot winds

I understand that there is more to it than surface area, but I'm using it as a starting point to look at other wings. I don't have the ability to demo wings in my area (is that really a widespread thing?).
I like the lift provided by the 99cm slingshot, so I'm looking for a wing with similar lift that may offer more turning ability. It may not exist, but I don't want to go backwards on the amount of lift the 99cm provides. I spent several frustrating months on the 84cm before moving back to the bigger wing. I know I'll drop size eventually, but conditions in my area aren't consistent. I only get out every 1-2 months.
Thanks!

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Thanks for the replies. That Axis wing has a significantly smaller surface area than the 99cm wing. I'd like to stick with a big wing.
Anyone have experience with the slingshot 99cm wing and how it's lift compares to other big wings, especially the armstrong 2400?

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Quick foil comparison question. Anyone ridden both the Slingshot 99cm and Armstrong 2400 front wings?
I currently ride the Slingshot 99cm and love it. I've tried the 84 cm, but just can't get it to fly as regularly. I think I just still need a massive wing at my stage.
I've gotten pretty good with straight line flying back and forth so I'm now working on jibes. However, the Slingshot 99cm just doesn't seem to turn and maintain speed. Likely user error, but I may try a higher performance system to see if that helps.
I'd like to get the Armstrong 2400 set up, but I DO NOT want to end up with a wing that is harder to get up. I'm just now finally comfortable pumping up on foil and do not intend to move to a more difficult wing. Will the Armstrong 2400 fly as easily as the Slingshot 99cm? Anyone have experience with both?

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General Discussion / Re: Santa Monica Intel
« on: September 11, 2021, 07:19:33 AM »
This is really helpful!
I won't have a car, so I'm pretty locked into breaks walkable from the pier area.
I will also miss the big swell....not surfing until Friday and Saturday. Plan to surf both mornings, but unfortunately, looks like dead low tide in the morning. Is that tide still surfable in Santa Monica?

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General Discussion / Santa Monica Intel
« on: September 10, 2021, 06:21:08 PM »
Headed to Santa Monica next week for a wedding and want to slip out a couple mornings to surf. I plan to bring my fish prone board and understand that it will be a zoo.
Any intel to make the most of it? I'm staying close to the Santa Monica pier and I've heard that the pier and Bay street are good places to try. Any thoughts on these areas? More importantly, any intel on tides to target? I'm coming from the east coast and mostly want to cross another surf break off my list. What are the best times, tides, and locations to score a couple decent waves with minimal crowds?
Thanks!

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Hwy1north: this is great info! I had no idea I could "switch" the fuse. I'll give it a try. Thanks!

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Clay, you know WAY more than I do. I'm just basing that statement on the slingshot teaser video. They said the foil is designed to have a downforce in the wing tip at high speed.
Check out minutes 1:30 : https://blog.slingshotsports.com/hydrofoil-wing-performance-3-new-hover-glide-infinity-foil-wings/

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Cowboy...thanks for the reply, but I miscommunicated my problem. I'm making great progress on flying, especially when I can gather enough speed without pumping. I've been working on pumping up to foil, though, and sometimes I can get up on foil, but then stall as Hwy1north mentioned. I will definitely try and keep the nose down when pumping.
I was more curious if this idiosyncrasy was specific to the Infinity 84 and that maybe a different foil would be more forgiving. For example, if the naish of gofoil were really that much better (they've gotta be lighter!)
I was also curious if I should invest in a fuselage with multiple mast mounting options. My fuse can only take the mast in one spot.
I also mentioned my 99cm wing, though I suppose I was simply thinking out loud. That thing pops onto a foil so easily. The only downside is that when you start going fast, it really wants to nose dive. I have to shift all my weight back just to keep the nose from diving. I believe it is designed that way to prevent overfoiling with such a large wing.

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Hwy1north: Thanks for the infinity 84 specific information. Really helpful. I'm riding the 84 and I've been working on pumping to get on foil. Seems like I can rise up on the foil briefly, but it won't stay up. I'm thinking about going back to my 99cm.
2 questions for you:
1) I have this setup:https://slingshotsports.com/collections/complete-foils-wing-surf/products/hover-glide-fsup-v3 . There is no way to move the mast forward/backward along the fuse. Should I buy a longer fuse?
2) Based on your experience, do you think there is a better foil for the beginner+ phase? The Infinity is HEAVY and other foils seem so light. I know everyone has their favorite foil, but the Infinity always gets moderate approval. Is it worth moving to a different foil?
Thanks!

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Fishman...interesting! I understood that swell direction would be very different north vs south, but hadn't considered that wind would be very different. Great point. I'll let you know what I find.

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I'm headed to the southern coast or DR this winter and was really hoping to wing while there. However, I couldn't find any rental shops for wings on the south coast. Any intel? Big, big thanks for any info.

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