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Foil SUP / Re: Tail wings bolt pattern - compatibility
« on: January 20, 2021, 10:50:36 AM »
Thanks for the posts!  Heard back from Kane -

These brands have the same bolt pattern (30mm center to center):
Unifoil, SPG, gofoil, F-one, takuma, F4, mfc, nsp.

These have the same (35mm center to center):
Axis, NP, and Naish.

Cloud9 is 45mm.

Moses is like 28mm?

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Axis Foils
« on: January 19, 2021, 10:21:58 AM »
Early on in my learn to foil experience I switched to a smaller high performance foil.  This enabled me to continue using my inefficient technique, until I went out on bigger days and my inadequate technique surfaced again as did my wing right before I did a high speed face plant.  I eventually went back to bigger more stable lifty wings and this time I played with my stance and made stabilizer adjustments until I learned how to manage bigger wings.

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Random / Re: Whatís Kool on Kickstarter
« on: January 16, 2021, 10:40:39 AM »
FYI - surfcowboy is the king of the zingers, timely on point funny one liners.

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Random / Re: Whatís Kool on Kickstarter
« on: January 16, 2021, 10:38:29 AM »
Waterbike is cool. Iíve always wanted a wakeboard but really wouldnít pull the trigger til they made one that could deliver consistent hard blows to my nuts.   

Finally, solved.

Hope this made you laugh.

 ;D LMAO, soooo goood.

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Foil SUP / Re: Tail wings bolt pattern - compatibility
« on: January 16, 2021, 10:32:03 AM »
Thanks for the responses.

A recap so far is that the following fuse/tails have the same (center to center 30mm) hole spacing:
F4, Takuma, Signature, Unifoil, GoFoil.

And that Axis and Naish have the same bolt spacing (center to center of 35mm).

Also Cloud9 is wider at (center to center of 45mm).

Can anyone measure their Armstrong or F-one?


I am guessing that whatever measurement the center to center spacing is, it is most likely _0 or _5 as in 30 or 35 ect...


Hey Bill do you know if anyone makes a jig or drilling doohickey for making another hole or expanding an existing one? 
I tried this eyeballing with a drill press and my hole was slight off center, meaning the tail wing mounted yawed to one side.

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Foil SUP / Re: Tail wings bolt pattern - compatibility
« on: January 15, 2021, 04:53:24 PM »
can we please use center to center spacing?  the way you show is totally non-standard and confusing to me at least.  I understand you have a hard time measuring center to center, but instead you can measure what you've done and then add the hole diameter to get center to center

I have no horse in the way we measure, I just want to know what tail wings are compatible.

Hole diameter seems to be off, as in the "diameter" of Axis/Naish seems to have lost 1mm.  For example my measurement of 30mm plus + 6mm equals 36mm, when they are calling it 35mm. A 2X4 isn't, frustratingly confusing.

My plan was to update any posted measurement with a listing of compatible wings, and not confuse people with the measurements.

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Foil SUP / Re: Tail wings bolt pattern - compatibility
« on: January 15, 2021, 04:00:35 PM »
Measuring center to center seems to difficult, without special tools, or measuring inner and outer edges and then doing math...

So I'm measuring inner edges of the fuse bolt holes because thats easy with any caliper.

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Foil SUP / Tail wings bolt pattern - compatibility
« on: January 15, 2021, 12:02:45 PM »
The intention of this thread is to find out what the tail wing bolt pattern is of the different brands.  And encourage a standard sizing so that all tail wings (stabilizers) are interchangeable and will fit any foil regardless of brand or design.


So I am stoked to learn that my F4 tail wings fit the Takuma Kujira fuselage.  I read on another thread that Signature and Unifoil also have the same bolt pattern.   I have four F4 tails and they have many more so this feels exciting to me, or at the vary least I'm not bummed that I need to spend hundreds more to get the feel I want.

I measured with a digital caliper measuring the space between bolts holes on the Fuselage (the inside or smallest measurement).

F4 and Takuma both measure 25mm.

Axis red fuselage measures 30mm.  Any other brands measure 30mm?

What is gofoil?

How about F-one?

Armstrong?

Attached photos are showing how I measured.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Axis Foils
« on: January 12, 2021, 09:41:43 PM »
After reading Bill shims his tail I gave it try. 

For me the 420 with 1 hotel key card shim (decreasing down force) was fun on a small wave, looser, faster, more slippery in a good way.  Than I caught an overhead bomb and was barely hanging on, I survived the 600+ yards but felt lucky not to have a high speed faceplant.  Took the shim out for the rest of the session, felt super springy as in more than I like but also more pitch control.

Yesterday was smaller, tried 2 thin beer can (probably coconut water) shims, I like that feel, still some spring and able to go more top to bottom on the good sections.

Is it feasible to take the shim out while in the water or do you come in to beach for that?

Absolutely, as long as I don't use through the bolt shims - as in taking a bolt completely out in the water is asking for trouble.  Bit tricky as shims usually like to stay in there with the bolt only partially loosened, helps if I have another shim with me to push out the shim. 

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Foil SUP / Re: SUP surfing what foil brand should I be looking at
« on: January 11, 2021, 02:34:56 PM »
For me local support is important.  Being an early adopter there was no one in my area to turn to for advice and support, took forever to figure stuff out through trial and error.  Even the guys ahead of me were mostly guessing what would work.

Now people in the lineup ask me often what to get and I can tell them from personal experience what direction to head in.  But if a beginner buys something foreign that nobody has ridden it's a lot harder to help them.

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Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP / Re: Axis Foils
« on: January 10, 2021, 09:42:56 AM »
After reading Bill shims his tail I gave it try. 

For me the 420 with 1 hotel key card shim (decreasing down force) was fun on a small wave, looser, faster, more slippery in a good way.  Than I caught an overhead bomb and was barely hanging on, I survived the 600+ yards but felt lucky not to have a high speed faceplant.  Took the shim out for the rest of the session, felt super springy as in more than I like but also more pitch control.

Yesterday was smaller, tried 2 thin beer can (probably coconut water) shims, I like that feel, still some spring and able to go more top to bottom on the good sections.

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SUP General / Re: Haley at Mavericks
« on: January 10, 2021, 09:30:44 AM »
Haley is awesome.  Has me thinking of a cat with 900 lives.

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Gear Talk / Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
« on: January 10, 2021, 09:29:21 AM »
I am now going CRAZY not having Dawn Patrol on the iPhone.

I have it on the iWatch, BUT, the home screen is frozon on the iPhone.  I am waiting for a software upgrade before I just un-install and re-install and potentially lose all my sessions. 

For now I just take snapshots from the Watch (Push the Dial and Button simultaneously). 

I was watching a video of JB in Australia and he turned me on to another App:  "Waterspeed"

https://www.waterspeedapp.com/

This shows your tracks and speed, much like Strava, BUT has the option to download GPX data.  This could be great salvation as a result of losing functionality from my Dawn Patrol App:

Here is what a screen shot from Dawn Patrol on the iWatch looks like.  I snap this at the end of each session just to keep a record.

Good to know there is a way to export to gpx, could be fun way to add overlay to land/boat/drone video, or even a surfline cam...

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Right on, thanks!

Clay Island Schmitz, that's my full name.  Island is also a Norwegian/Scandinavian (Viking?  :D ) name, that's where mine came from.

Naming surf spots can be such a sensitive topic, I want to help beginners find a safe entry point without overcrowding or sending a hoard of new foilers to a spot.  When folks ask me in a DM or in person I tell them, I'm still uncomfortable posting on the internets...

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Yes on stiff grunty big wings.  I felt super beat up after a couple days on one.

No on the Fone swings. 

I liken it to the catch of giant blades on paddles, like the 105 hard catch paddles beat up my shoudlers and elbows, but a 70-80 with a flexy shaft feels great and I can paddle all week...

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