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Stand Up Paddle => Gear Talk => Topic started by: kirk_mcginty2009 on October 29, 2009, 03:40:33 PM
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post up some pics. i'm curious how short you're going relative to height, weight and skill set.
kirk
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post up some pics. i'm curious how short you're going relative to height, weight and skill set.
kirk
Ok........You asked for it!!! Here's a short vid that I put together to show it's performance. Hope you guys like it....Again just here to share the stoke.
(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n396/Sam21_21/7-8DanaiMilf.gif)
Danai 7'-8" SUP "Fugu" (http://vimeo.com/6776144)
Aloha.......Sam
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Last winter I designed a 8'X27"X3.75 SUPsonic model
I am 6'1" I weigh 180lbs
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/4038136951_cae0527782_o.jpg)
Me ridding the 8' board on the south shore.
(http://www.supsonic.com/images/img_9122_lrrv_swkx.jpg)
I love this board in glassy conditions. If its choppy its more work then i want to do. So i made a 8'4"X27"X3/75" SUPsonic model to see if the extra 4 inches made much difference. It made a world of difference in stability at my height and weight.
this is the 8'4"X27"X3.75" SUPsonic
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2480/4038907364_8dcbe8e0ae_o.jpg)
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2640/4038159091_d275fc07d1_o.jpg)
Me ridding the 8'4"X27"X3.75" SUPsonic
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3480/4038906042_1cb3030f2f_o.jpg)
My friend Chris rode the board and Chris is 200lbs
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4038143445_26c39c2be9_b.jpg)
I love both of these boards they both surf unreal just like a surfboard. The problem i encountered was when the surf was big and pitching the board was a little under gunned. They both went great in up to double over head surf that was not top to bottom on the take off. Worked great at Kanaha and Little Mac's but struggled at Hookipa when it was double over head. I could not get enough board speed to get in early So this winter I made a 9'X27"X3.75" SUPsonic model for bigger more challenging surf.
this is the 9'X27"X3.75" SUPsonic TIGERasta
(http://www.supsonic.com/images/5609_118799346422_586621422_2796902_4383138_n_zh2z.jpg)
The world of SUP is still so wide open to board design its great. Just the amount of change the boards have gone through in the last three years is mind boggling.
I cant wait to see what we are ridding in another 2 years.
Aloha
Frank
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HAD TO SLIP THIS BEAST IN HERE.....
BTW SUPsonic ..Frank has inspired me every time he sets foot back in his home town...
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Sorry Tim another Pic of the 8/10
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At the moment riding the 7'6" AHD Sea Lion Fish-SUP... Width=29.5", Thickness=4.75"... I weigh around 165 lbs. and I have a sup friend at around 190 lbs that can also ride it... It's a frigging blast to surf! JD
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that board is of the charts sick. man id love to try it i too am 190lbs. did u shape it?
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that board is of the charts sick. man id love to try it i too am 190lbs. did u shape it?
Shaped by Bruno and Andre with the AHD/Nah Skwell group. It's the Sea Lion model... Anyone in N. Florida wanting to try it, just send me a PM (personal message) and we can set up a demo... Later, JD
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This is my 8'3 x 30 1/2 x 4 3/4. Im 210lbs. 6'.
Great fun board. Worked really well on knee slappers to 4' Plus. average ridding in between
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Heres the 9'1
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Sweet boards, Deth Stick... Especially like the rounded pin and green is mean.... Later, JD
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loks so small in standing shot, cutting edge s u p so sick. good job all u guys. lets see some more.
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Just got the Naish 8'0". It goes 8'0" x 25.75" x 4" single concave to accelerated v-tail. I'm 5'6 150 lbs. So far, this board requires a lot of attention to keep from not falling. I haven't fallen this much since when I first started this ridiculously challenging and equally fun sport; but, I'm 3 sessions in and it's getting better each time. The reward is well worth the effort though.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/doc808/Sessions/DSCF0482.jpg)
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/doc808/Sessions/DSCF0488.jpg)
I'm using a Wonder bolt so I can experiment with fin placement. First session I had the fin almost all the way up which made bottom turns feel more like the board was pivoting off the tail. Second session I moved it as far back as the bolt mechanism would allow for this fin and hit the jackpot. I've stumbled upon my personal fin placement sweet-spot just two sessions in.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/doc808/Sessions/DSCF0487.jpg)
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/doc808/Sessions/DSCF0485.jpg)
My only gripe... there's no tail block. I'm definitely gonna install one in the future.
(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/doc808/Sessions/DSCF0489.jpg)
Aloha
Mike
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;)
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supperson,
what are the dims on the two white ones? they look great!
kirk
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8'0''x28''x4''
8'6''27x4''
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8.6 x 30 x 4 5/8 - Made for punchy beach breaks but seems to be an absolute gem in all conditions - for a small board. I normally ride 9 to 10ft boards and this was kinda meant to be a fish type fun toy but I am having trouble staying off it and everyone wants to try it because it is so darn stable for its size. I am 77kg (think about 170) and about 6'1. I would class myself as comfortable intermediate and generally surf beachies and the occasional point break and am most comfortable in surf from knee high to a bit over head high.
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Its great to see all these Short SUP boards.
When I designed my first 10"X27"X4" almost 3 years ago People told me there is no way you will be able to ride this. They also said this is not where the sport is going. I heard the exact same thing when i designed a 9"X27"X4 and again when i designed a 8"X27"X3.75" I am so glad all those doubters were wrong and so glad to see the many different short boards people are ridding today. I cant wait to see what is going to happen next in SUP design.
Posted by: SUPer Davve
BTW SUPsonic ..Frank has inspired me every time he sets foot back in his home town...SUPer Dave Thanks for the compliment. I am glad to inspire you and glad to see you flying the SUP flag high back in Montauk. Its always nce to come home and visit. Montauk is such a great place for SUP. There is always a body of water out of the wind you can paddle on. Be it the ocean, pond, bays or lakes. I saw more of Montauk from a SUP board in 2 months then i did years living out there.
Keep driving the SUP designs to better and more high performance boards and gear.
Love seeing it all
ALoha
Frank
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Does all of the above.
8.6 x 32 x 4.25
www.southcountysurf.com (http://www.southcountysurf.com)
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Here's my 8.5" x 28"+something x 4"+something @ 127liters
Rail to rail action is amazing... Althought I hated the rails when I first saw it ready, I was surprised how fast it goes when it gets juicier in steeper waves... Those rails are kinda like a catamaran and feels pretty small when you grab it as it actually faces towards the bottom...
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8'6" x 30" x 4.75" Tomahawk Starfish.
(http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4772.0;attach=4036)
(http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4772.0;attach=4034)
At the time of these photos I weighed 220 pounds. Now I'm down to 195. Even then, this board floated me nicely. Now it's just easier on my upper legs ;-).
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7' 10" x 33" x 5.5"
South County sup.
It surfs really well and talk about stable...well just look at the photo.
We sold out of these little guys but will be making more soon.
www.southcountysurf.com (http://www.southcountysurf.com)
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This is my 8'8 x 28,5 x 4 quad custom Pukas shaped by J. Cabianca.
It's a great topic, it's so good to see those boards.
I can't wait to get another one, soon I hope ;)
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Here is the board.
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Here is the board.
Cloclo, that is a nice shape. That is something i would like to ride.
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hey soco do have any other pics of the 7 10s ? id really like to see more of these boards im really interested...
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Sure Newton,
We've had this short wide sup out for almost 3 years now, it's in it's 3 generation now. Stable as an 11.6 Laird turns on a dime. Looks like a wakeboard on steriods.
Here's some photos from one we sold to a Japanese sup surfer/pro windsurfer this summer. His comments on his new board:
"The stability of this board is great.
It is made very durable.
It is good.
I was able to catch many waves immediately.
I tested FIN in various ways.
I think that 3FIN is good."
I love the little board on his Cube.
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Left one
- Length : 7’7" = 235.5 cm
- Width : 29" 5/7 = 75,5 cm
- Thickness : 5" 1/8 = 13 cm
- Volume : 135 litres
- Width one foot off the tip of the nose : 19" 1/2 = 49.5 cm
- Width one foot off the tip of the tail : 21" = 53.4 cm
- Tail : Fat Fish Tail with Wingers.
- Nose : Fat Retro Point Nose.
- Fins : quad.
like it a lot, pretty stable for it's length.
More pictures of shorty(Not me in the photo's:-().
http://www.gongsup.com/7-7-au-Cap-Vert,1054.html?lang=fr (http://www.gongsup.com/7-7-au-Cap-Vert,1054.html?lang=fr)
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Here's my 8.5" x 28"+something x 4"+something @ 127liters
I like the look of this board.
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here are the new naish 7'9" mana
http://www.stand-up-surf.com/products-page/naish/ (http://www.stand-up-surf.com/products-page/naish/)
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I like the look of this board.
Thanks, Midwest... It's a great beach break board, very fast... Not sure if it'll handle bombs higher than head... Head high was the biggest I went for with this board and it bounced a lot... Maybe I needed bigger fins; maybe I needed to step towards the middle of the board to avoid bouncing; maybe it's too light and skims above the water at higher speed; maybe it's a combo of all the above...
From waist to head high is where this board shines...
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Hey Bob..... I'm no hydro-physics engineer but from the looks of the rail profile pic, I can see where it would be prone to have some bounce. Has almost a boat-type rail (slightly angled down and fairly hard). I would tend to think that would make it haul-ass down the line but it would be like skimming a flat rock across the water. Reminds me of the old "G&S Skate" surfboard. I think a fuller, rounder rail (IMHO) would be a better option as the speed would be dictated more from the bottom shape while the softer, rounder rails would aid turning and hold on the wave-face... Again, I'm no scientist; Just an old surfer/windsurfer/sup guy with 46 yrs in board design... Later, JD
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Hey Bob..... I'm no hydro-physics engineer but from the looks of the rail profile pic, I can see where it would be prone to have some bounce. Has almost a boat-type rail (slightly angled down and fairly hard). I would tend to think that would make it haul-ass down the line but it would be like skimming a flat rock across the water. Reminds me of the old "G&S Skate" surfboard. I think a fuller, rounder rail (IMHO) would be a better option as the speed would be dictated more from the bottom shape while the softer, rounder rails would aid turning and hold on the wave-face... Again, I'm no scientist; Just an old surfer/windsurfer/sup guy with 46 yrs in board design... Later, JD
I totally agree, JD. Thanks for the input...
Mahalo do Brazil,
Bob.
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Here's my 8.5" x 28"+something x 4"+something @ 127liters
Rail to rail action is amazing... Althought I hated the rails when I first saw it ready, I was surprised how fast it goes when it gets juicier in steeper waves... Those rails are kinda like a catamaran and feels pretty small when you grab it as it actually faces towards the bottom...
Nice board. What's with the Gulf livery?
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7'0'' and 8'0''
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Here is my newest addition: The NS106, NS96 and the NS78 Sup Fish... JD
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7'6 - ARt iN sUrF
more info on e-mail: marcus@artinsurf.com
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Lots of shorties here can already see a progression in board design...
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What about the new PSH, I heard about a Ripper wood veneer 8' x 28 5/8 x 3 7/8 by 98 L.
Any infos of those boards ?
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What about the new PSH, I heard about a Ripper wood veneer 8' x 28 5/8 x 3 7/8 by 98 L.
Any infos of those boards ?
I tryed one but they are VERY heavy so if you want a light boards look for a lighter layup. I am talking like 5 exta lbs.
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Where did you get to try one of our boards at 8' ? I never made one at those dimensions yet...
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Where did you get to try one of our boards at 8' ? I never made one at those dimensions yet...
DOH!!! ;D
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We have 8' Wood Veneers but everyone I made one for is here with us. Different dimensions too. Certain ones we make are heavier upon request. I have 1 lb, 1.5 lb and 2 lb foam that we use...
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Where did you get to try one of our boards at 8' ? I never made one at those dimensions yet...
This was on Oahu and it was an 8-6 the guy said. It was heavy as my Starboard Drive 10-5 which I figured was becuase of the wood weight. How much does the wood add to your board so what does a 8-6 wood weigh and how much does a regular 8-6 weigh? It was stable for a board that short but it seems like why would you want heavy on a very short board?
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My friend Katie with her David Craig - 7'3" x 26 1/2" x 3 5/8".
She's 5'4" and 125# and she rips!
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Where did you get to try one of our boards at 8' ? I never made one at those dimensions yet...
This was on Oahu and it was an 8-6 the guy said. It was heavy as my Starboard Drive 10-5 which I figured was becuase of the wood weight. How much does the wood add to your board so what does a 8-6 wood weigh and how much does a regular 8-6 weigh? It was stable for a board that short but it seems like why would you want heavy on a very short board?
When we use 1 lb foam the weight of a wood veneer is below that of any molded board on the market. I made quite a few medium weight to heavy 8-4 to 11' wood boards because you don't want it light when the waves are solid. We are riding them in serious conditions and don't like it skipping around at speed. We are still playing around with the smaller boards in bigger waves and HEAVY IS GOOD when you are going fast with chop especially the short ones.
This is a 9-4 and it's not light. If we make it for small town waves or a beach break then we make it much lighter...
(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/9909andbeyond/websize/Copy%20of%20IMG_1093_1_.JPG)
This is Kala Alexander yesterday on a 10' custom. Not a light weight either. (pic courtesy Kala)
(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/9909andbeyond/websize/photo%20_7_.JPG)
We experiment with all our boards both heavy and ultra light. Some of our guys are trying some crazy stuff with shorter boards. After we are done with them we don't throw them away, we sell them to whoever wants them. There are NO wood veneer boards of PSH out there right now in the water that are not prototypes of some kind. We did not start production on our wood line till recently. We did not order any heavy ones for production unless it's a gun. Just clarifying these things.
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Lots said there..... Thanks Blane....
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This shot here will show a little more why heavier weights are important. All the wind coming up the face along with what appears to be little chops. Those little chops are really ones that can make you hop right out of the water if you're on a board to light.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/torturechambers/9909andbeyond/websize/z1.jpg)
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Here's a custom shape from last year, 7'11" x 29" x 4 1/2"
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How did it work heave....Interestin center fin set up what do you put there... ?
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That's actually Luke's board with the Ash veneer bottom and carbon/kevlar deck. I ride a Doug fir veneer bottom with Volan deck. I use two MFC 8.25" F16 fins in the Thrailkill single-twin set up. It works great in everything around here. I'm 185 and that's what I always ride. I plan on making another one just like it but super light for the smaller days.
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(http://www.gongsup.com/local/cache-vignettes/L680xH1402/overview_news_2-38fc7.jpg)
New gong proto-type looks nice
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She arrived yesterday!! 8'7 x 28" x 4" @ 105 liters. Not really a small board (given the boards by now) but very thin rails & weighs almost nothing. 2 x 6 oz. on top & 1 x 6 oz. bottom. Stringerless. Quad only. Fast as bullet, spray is strong, carves at easy and I had a great time surfing it yesterday. Stoked. Period.
Mahalos do Brazil,
Bob.
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Interesting fin set up on your new board Bob.
I saw pictures on here from Brazil recently of some boards that look like this. They were been ridden in a contest by a father and a son. Is it the same shaper who made yor new board?
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Gong 5'11 proto One (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJnxumZGyFQ#)
Gong 5'11 in action ;)
More: http://www.gongsup.com/spip.php?page=news&lang=fr#News_2167 (http://www.gongsup.com/spip.php?page=news&lang=fr#News_2167)
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Lobes, I'm not Bob but yes, those are some interesting fins and the shaper is the same...i have one of their boards and really like it.
I wish it came with the Future fin box like Bob's instead of the FCS...
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Onwater Designs 'Hot Tuna', 10x34", 5.5" thick.
Made by Tim Niemier, founder of Ocean Kayaks.
Rips on waves, super fast, turns easy, and floats my 220lbs and 6-5 frame.
http://www.onwaterdesigns.com/ (http://www.onwaterdesigns.com/)
(new site coming in 1-2 wks with more product specs)
More info, contact Tim,
<onwaterdesigns@gmail.com>
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6'1'' 205lb
7'9'' Mana. Pretty stable, a little more sensitive in terms of forward . backward placement, but seems easy enough to ride. Feels very light, but this board is not meant for super big surf.
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Kruut,
Any more info on that 5'11"? That seems insanely short. Interesting for sure, as most places here won't allow a board longer than 6'8" on the planes/ferries, so it would be good for travel/wife's board.
Thanks,
j
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My shortest board I'm riding now is my new 2010 Cutback - 7' x 28 1/2" x 5 1/4". I'm 5'8" and 160lbs to 165lbs.
here's the thing... I found that going UP in thickness, as long as its not in the rail (so radical step rails) allows you to still have a lot of forgiveness and ease relative to size, and be super small. I could go narrower I think by at least 3/4" of an inch, but I want this to perform in small waves and so the with is nice for gutless surf, and I seem to do alright in steeper stuff anyway... so...
(http://imaginesurfboards.com/eng/cutback_files/offshore-intec.png) (http://imaginesurfboards.com/eng/cutback_files/offshore-flux.png)
Interestingly I've also discovered that you don;t need a 10' board for big surf... as long as you can play with your fin angles and splay, you can surf 10' to 15' (Hawaii) on a 8'5" just fine.... making me reassess my idea of what a "SUP Gun" needs to be.
Corran
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7'0'' x 25 1/4 x 4 1/2
works for me
i am 168 lbs
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7'0'' x 25 1/4 x 4 1/2
supperson .
what kind of conditions can you use this board in, does it need to be calm and glassy,
do you use another board for more choppy conditions?
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Kruut,
Any more info on that 5'11"? That seems insanely short. Interesting for sure, as most places here won't allow a board longer than 6'8" on the planes/ferries, so it would be good for travel/wife's board.
Thanks,
j
Have a look at: http://www.gongsup.com/-GONG-Hand-Made-SUP-.html?lang=fr (http://www.gongsup.com/-GONG-Hand-Made-SUP-.html?lang=fr)
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Custom Rusty
7'6'' x 25'' x 4.2
EPS quad
97 liters
Best SUB I have ridden
It's unreals... ;D
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That looks like a really fun board. I haven't seen any of those around here yet. I'd love to try one. Do they have a similiar size with a more pulled nose? Post a few more pic's if you can, I'd like to see the rocker and the deck.
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sure
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luv
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Wow! Just noticed this thread...
Some interesting boards in there - I want to test drive them all.
Patrice's 5'11" Proto1 might have looked strange but it sets a benchmark for microSUP (amazing, bro - I want to see more)!
Here is a pic of my 6'11" microSUP shaped by Jorge Mora of Sick Surfboards:
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Gong 5'11(proto), 9'3 Epoxy Androgene en 10'1 Neverstick. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-SHtMZgZRE#)
In this movie around 1.35 and in the end some 5'11
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You want more? Have a look at this. I say new benchmark on Micro-sup!!!!
(http://www.gongsup.com/local/cache-vignettes/L690xH480/Image_saisie_526-2ed14.jpg)
Here is a 5'0 sup!!!!
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Man. I am still just trying to wrap my brain around that one...
I will say that just because it is different does not mean that it is wrong.
Evolution of design is based on experimentation - no risk, no gain.
I might add that breakthroughs tend to be met with a great deal of resistance.
I, for one, would jump on an opportunity to take it for a spin!
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I love it. It's awesome to see guys pushing the sub 8' envelope. I can't wait to see what they come up with next. Too bad I'm 200 lbs or I'd be all over one of those little guys.
Evan
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Too bad I'm 200 lbs or I'd be all over one of those little guys.
The Gong shaper, wearing the camera in the movie above, Patrice Guénolé (aka l'Ours - The Bear) weights 230 pounds! (104kg) and is based in Corsica with a lot of small gutless waves. So big guys can ride short boards. He is shaping me a 6'8" (I am 220lbs) and in the meantime I am practicing on a production Gong Nanogene 7'7" (http://www.gongsup.com/Nanogene-7-7.html) (the red one, compared to the windsurf-oriented Sealion in the pictures (http://photos.colaz.net/index.php?dir=Nanogene%2F&startpic=0)) to hone my paddling skills for it.
Of course short SUPs must not be your only board, but they can be very fun in some conditions. If you have them thick enough for your weight they are not too difficult.
(http://photos.colaz.net/index.php?displaypic=Nanogene%2Fp20100413_122838.jpg) (http://photos.colaz.net/index.php?dir=Nanogene%2F&startpic=0)
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Maybe we will see some french guys on super short SUP boards for the waterman league contest in france coming up this month?
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I love it. It's awesome to see guys pushing the sub 8' envelope. I can't wait to see what they come up with next. Too bad I'm 200 lbs or I'd be all over one of those little guys.
Evan
200lb++ is no match for the Naish 7'9'' Actually first time I took it out I thought I had made a mistake buying the board, and that I would sink, but had no problem...I caught my first wave before ever even falling off the board.
A 5' must be really thick...