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Title: Axis Mast & ventilation
Post by: winged surfer on January 24, 2022, 06:40:01 AM
Hi all,
I was checking this review on youtube (english subtitles):

https://youtu.be/7MdOrrQykNM

I honestly find it quite strange to hear about such a problem of an axis product.
Does anyone experience the same?
Thanks
Andrea


Title: Re: Axis Mast & ventilation
Post by: Solent Foiler on January 24, 2022, 07:54:28 AM
Hi Andrea - the 'getting ejected out the front door' thread is devoted to this discussion.

The short answer is yes, I can't really use the 19mm Axis mast as it ventilates too much for me. Explanations are difficult because it's a really complex issue, but seems that lighter riders suffer more than heavier, and it only really happens winging up or cross wind. Some people won't even know what the fuss is about, but it's a manifestation of the equipment and the rider, not really a technique or piloting issue

I can ride my normal mast (adapted for Axis fuse) how I like without issue, but swap in the Axis mast only, and it's a totally different experience... A much wetter one!
Title: Re: Axis Mast & ventilation
Post by: PonoBill on January 24, 2022, 10:45:47 AM
Actually, while people probably can't solve the issue with technique, it is partly a technique issue. Looking Hadou's videos it's obvious that he yaws quite a bit. People who don't won't have as much of a problem. They also probably won't go as fast as he does.

Oddly, it also looks like he's yawing a bit less with the Cedrus mast. That might be camera angle, or a phenomenon caused to some degree by the mast, or just an evolution in his technique caused by learning to minimize ventilation.

In any case, the Cedrus mast looks to offer a solution to yawing. I think it offers other solutions as well, being quite a bit more rigid than most carbon masts. It's a much more expensive mast to build than aluminum since the production quantity is low and the design requires molding instead of simply slicing off a length from an extrusion.
Title: Re: Axis Mast & ventilation
Post by: winged surfer on January 24, 2022, 12:31:11 PM
Thanks for the answers. I’ll check the other thread too
Title: Re: Axis Mast & ventilation
Post by: PonoBill on January 24, 2022, 06:01:50 PM
Oops, I meant the Cedrus mast seems to offer a solution to ventilation.
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