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Title: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: clay on November 03, 2021, 12:33:16 PM
Three sessions in with the eight meter CWC Strike.  Huge improvement over other big wings I have tried:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKTWCvySu0Q


I had a first gen gong 7m, and then slingwing v2 6.4m, the first was just massive and heavy, second had to abrupt pull and weird handle/placement, I sold both after a handful of sessions.

Some surf spots are wind shadowed and with a 6m it was either very difficult or a no go, stoked to see how the 8m works this winter.

Anyone else tried these new big wings?

Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: WingTime on November 03, 2021, 07:04:43 PM
These wings rock !!
Iím 100kg and the 8m wing is goto/ light wind buster , get up in 12 .
Lots of grunt and also a  light weight for itís size and the neutral flight is amazing.

The 8m is a big wing but it doesnít feel like it and itís a game changer especially for bigger guys.

I Have tried many other big wings and nothing compares to strike CWC 8m, canít go wrong.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: thatdeonguy on November 03, 2021, 08:55:22 PM
Clay,
I was so excited to see your video of the Strike 8.0
I've been waiting for months for mine to arrive.
It should be perfect wing for Belmont Shores fickle winds
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: PonoBill on November 03, 2021, 10:58:37 PM
Ah, Belmont Shores. When I lived there in the '70s we called it "south sodom" because of all the stewardesses, models, etc. that lived there. I formulated the inverse square law of the babeiverse, being the quantity and quality of beautiful women varied as the inverse square of the distance from Bayshore Ave (actually, Ximino, as there was a clutch of four houses there with some of the most spectacular women I've ever met). If you couldn't get laid in Belmont shores, you couldn't get laid. I imagine it's changed. I used to crew (meaning, supply weight on the tramp) for some guys that raced catamarans there. I always have to cruise around the Shores when I'm visiting SoCal, just because I had so much fun there. I was a motorcycle mechanic at several dealerships in the area. Racing in the desert, body surfing at the wedge, endless parties...  it was a remarkable time and place.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: DCSurf on November 04, 2021, 06:40:14 AM
Oh Yea !! I agree 100%with all these comments, especially Pono Bills😀. Love this wing. I am 6'6",
250lbs, and for the first time in 30 years of windsports, they now call me 'Lite Wind Dave'😀😀🏄‍♂️🏄‍♂️
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 04, 2021, 01:45:26 PM
Here's Dominick Hoskins review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfZgf9zY404
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 04, 2021, 01:51:45 PM
I just got one a few days ago.  I can get up on foil in 8 knots on my 7.0 Slick so I'm hoping the 8.0 will open up those 5 to 10 knot days for me.  There were a number of days last summer that were close but no cigar.  I've pumped it up to see what it looks like -- looks pretty big.  I've got to remember to make sure the push valve is in the up position before I start pumping or the wing just deflates when I remove the adapter.  I'm not use to this type of valve -- none of my other wings' valves are like this.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 06, 2021, 06:23:41 PM
Finally got this big wing on the water -- 1 to maybe 8 knots, 9 degrees C.  I wanted to test out some cold water gear and also see what the Strike could do in low gusty winds.  At about 5 or 6 knots this thing wakes up, sucks in some caffeine and takes off -- it is a beast!  If you get a lot of low wind gusty days this one is hard to beat!   :)
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Supfool on November 08, 2021, 09:37:34 AM
Finally got this big wing on the water -- 1 to maybe 8 knots, 9 degrees C.  I wanted to test out some cold water gear and also see what the Strike could do in low gusty winds.  At about 5 or 6 knots this thing wakes up, sucks in some caffeine and takes off -- it is a beast!  If you get a lot of low wind gusty days this one is hard to beat!   :)

Nice, what size board and foil are you pairing it with deja vu?
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: blockidog on November 08, 2021, 11:51:29 AM
I was originally looking at the 6m Strike CWC for lighter winds as a my largest currently is an Ensis 5.2 V2.  Not much of a gap so now considering the the 7m Strike CWC.

I weigh 175 #'s / 79kg's - I assume the 7m will be enough for lighter winds??
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: FlyKiteSurf on November 08, 2021, 01:39:14 PM
Related to Blockidog's query...my large wing is a 6.4m Slinging V2. I'm 185# naked. One season winging. Wondering whether a 7m CWC will have that much more pull than the 6.4m V2 in light, flukey southern Monterey Bay, CA winds...or, if I'd need the 8m CWC for a real, notable difference and access to the MANY days of 6-14kt swirling winds near the wharf. Perhaps Clay, who once had the V2, would opine...
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Supfool on November 08, 2021, 03:34:23 PM
Related to Blockidog's query...my large wing is a 6.4m Slinging V2. I'm 185# naked. One season winging. Wondering whether a 7m CWC will have that much more pull than the 6.4m V2 in light, flukey southern Monterey Bay, CA winds...or, if I'd need the 8m CWC for a real, notable difference and access to the MANY days of 6-14kt swirling winds near the wharf. Perhaps Clay, who once had the V2, would opine...

Yeah I'm also wondering about this given my biggest wing is a 6.2.  There's a definite law of diminishing return with bigger sails, kites, and wings from what I have seen so far.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 08, 2021, 05:19:25 PM
Finally got this big wing on the water -- 1 to maybe 8 knots, 9 degrees C.  I wanted to test out some cold water gear and also see what the Strike could do in low gusty winds.  At about 5 or 6 knots this thing wakes up, sucks in some caffeine and takes off -- it is a beast!  If you get a lot of low wind gusty days this one is hard to beat!   :)

Nice, what size board and foil are you pairing it with deja vu?

I was on the 95 litre (5" 4") Fanatic Sky Wing with a Kijura 1440.  Thank God for that 95 litres in the lulls!

So why an 8 metre Strike when I already have a 7 metre Slick?  1) I'm not sure I could have gotten on foil at all with the Slick and 2) if I had I would have had to pump my butt off!  If pumping is your thing then stick with a 6 or 7 metre wing.  I'm not interesting in spending time in the ICU after a wing foiling session. 
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: To bad on November 08, 2021, 08:06:20 PM
I have the 7m Strike CWC. Love it. I had the Slingwings v2 (3.2, 4.4, 5.4 and 6.4). Sold them all now have quiver of Strikes (3.5, 4.2, 5, 7m).
I ride the 5'4" Fanatic 95L and Moses 1100 and 950. I weigh 190 and ride in gusty holey wind.
It has changed the game for me.
My buddy ahs them all 8, 7, 6, 5, 4.2, and 3.5. He rides 8m or 6m when I am on 7m (right in between) he is heavier than me though.
Rode the 7m last 3 days in all sorts of wind (10 to 30mph) not a problem
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: PonoBill on November 09, 2021, 07:56:59 PM
I had a 7M AirRush which I considered borderline unusable, Heavy and clumsy.  I previously had a 6M swing which was useful, but wide, and it flipped easily if a tip touched down. The 6M Strike CWC is a huge improvement, and until I read this thread I didn't consider a 7, 7, or 9 CWC. The 6 covers a lot of ground. Now I'm thinking maybe an 8 for those frustrating days where the wind is steady but just a bit too light.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: paddlur on November 10, 2021, 04:32:00 AM
Like to hear how the handles are hopefully improved as had a V1 swing 6m and the handles if you call them that were definitely the weakest flimsiest handles I've ever used winging didnt like them at all and rear handle placement was to far forward for my 225lbs.Must say the 8m looks looks interesting but question is hows the handles on the big rig any picts reports
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: m_the_foiler on November 10, 2021, 10:20:00 AM
Clay,
What is the lowest speed you've tested this wing in? I'm also considering one to keep foiling in our off-season winds. I'm in San Mateo, so similar off-season conditions as yours I imagine.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: AGK on November 10, 2021, 10:55:55 AM
Another big fan of the 7m CWC after three low wind sessions.  Big takeaways 1. I was foiling in conditions where I would not have even tried with either of my two previous 6m wings. 2. It is really light in the hands and easy and even pleasant to use, even in slogging conditions

[reasonably experienced  80 kg foiler in second year of wingdinging, using a 98l board and Axis 1060/420]

Iíve had both a 2020 f1 Swing 6m and BRM 6m, and found both to be heavy, no fun, and not really much better than a 5m in low winds.  This wing is entirely different.  It can be pumped up on foil in much less wind and pretty intuitively, and once up it generated enough power to stay up in really light winds.  If I had to guess, I can get up in 10mph and stay foiing down to 6 or so Ė but those are really just guesses; I donít really know the speeds.  I do know that it will get up and stay up at much lower windspeeds than a 2020 BRM 6m or a 2021 BRM 5.5m (and the 5.5 is a great wing with a pretty good low end IMO). 

What people have said about the tips bouncing off the water is true Ė you donít pay the usual penalty for letting a wingtip touch when holding the big wing vertically to go upwind.  It also is the best wing Iíve used with a harness Ė stays locked and stable when you are hooked in, even in light winds.  It does pull on you quite a bit, but the harness makes that not much of an issue for me.

For those of you who, like me, end up going out in too little wind, or when the wind is going to die, the slogging performance of the CWC7 was a really nice surprise.  It supports its own weight and provides enough drive to hold ground in winds way too light to get up on a foil, either kneeling or standing on a +15 board.

I am really impressed with this wing and really happy I decided to spend all that money on it Ė F1 deserve praise for really thinking through how to make a wing work in low winds.


Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: clay on November 12, 2021, 06:03:10 PM
About 10 sessions now, really loving this 8m wing.  Only downside is I'm going out when wind is single digits and spending considerable time schlogging.

If averaging 10mph I get up consistently, if single digits waiting for a gust, I can stay up on foil in single digits it's just much harder to get up and to jibe.  Once on foil it's amazing how little wind I can foil with.

I didn't ever consider the 7m, not enough for my weight and off season winds.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 29, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
The "Lonely Wing" -- you're usually out there by yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cLyzkcQsRc
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2021, 06:58:56 AM
The "Lonely Wing" -- you're usually out there by yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cLyzkcQsRc


That's a 5M Strike he's using.


Specs from YouTube -

BOARD: F-One Rocket Wing v2 (75L). I've grown into this board, and it seems to be a good all-rounder for my weight (75kg).

WING: F-One Strike 5M. Probably slightly too small for these conditions, but my CWC 6M was being repaired. I was surprised to be flying so easily with the 5M in such light conditions.

FOIL: AXIS BLACK SERIES - 1050 font wing, short fuselage, 400 rear wing, 90cm aluminium mast. I'm really happy it in light conditions - easy to pump up with good speed and glide.

.


Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on November 30, 2021, 10:12:58 AM
My bad!  More power to those of you who can get going in these light winds on a 5 metre -- I can't, at least not on a 1440 sq. cm. foil.  I need a big wing like the 8 metre Strike, especially if it's gusting from 5 to 8 or 9.  Sure looks like fun though -- less effort to handle a 5 (and less expensive) -- anyway, good thing there are some very nice big wings out there for wingers like me.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Badger on November 30, 2021, 01:50:59 PM
My bad!  More power to those of you who can get going in these light winds on a 5 metre -- I can't, at least not on a 1440 sq. cm. foil.  I need a big wing like the 8 metre Strike, especially if it's gusting from 5 to 8 or 9.  Sure looks like fun though -- less effort to handle a 5 (and less expensive) -- anyway, good thing there are some very nice big wings out there for wingers like me.


Still a good video to watch. Thanks for posting it.

If he's that good with a 5M, I'd like to see how low a windspeed he could go with an 8M CWC.


Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: randomfoiler on November 30, 2021, 02:19:04 PM
3 questions:

1. @165lbs (mostly on lakes) should I get the 7m or 8m?
I have a 5m and it works perfectly if there is wind, but we have a lot of marginal days and gusty days where the gusts are just not enough for the 5m.

2. has anybody tried the 7m Takoon and the 7m CWC and could compare?

3. does anybody know what OR will be doing with their 7m? 
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: deja vu on December 01, 2021, 01:03:58 PM
3 questions:

1. @165lbs (mostly on lakes) should I get the 7m or 8m?
I have a 5m and it works perfectly if there is wind, but we have a lot of marginal days and gusty days where the gusts are just not enough for the 5m.

2. has anybody tried the 7m Takoon and the 7m CWC and could compare?

3. does anybody know what OR will be doing with their 7m?

I'm 156 lbs. and winging on fresh water -- if you really want to get on the water and don't have an e-foil for those 3 to 9 m.p.h. days then IMO go big with the 8 metre.  You have to be willing to stand around for awhile waiting for a gust and then when it comes not to waste it  -- once up you then need to figure out how to pump through the lulls using both the foil and wing and then just the foil.  There will be lots of incentive to stay on foil because if you don't it may be some time before you get another chance!  The 8 metre at least gives one the opportunity to turn a normally non-winging day into a day you can wing and have a good time -- blasting along through lulls of basically nothing while looking for the next 6 or 7 knot gust can be fun, especially if you only get a 15 to 20 knot day once a week or so in the summer -- if you're lucky.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Fishman on December 04, 2021, 12:50:40 AM
3 questions:

1. @165lbs (mostly on lakes) should I get the 7m or 8m?
I have a 5m and it works perfectly if there is wind, but we have a lot of marginal days and gusty days where the gusts are just not enough for the 5m.

2. has anybody tried the 7m Takoon and the 7m CWC and could compare?

3. does anybody know what OR will be doing with their 7m?

2. The CWC 7m is bigger than my 1st gen Takoon but not quite as big as the Slick 7m.. The Takoon 7m is more like a 6-6.5 in comparison. I only tried the CWC for just a short time but it had more low end for sure. It seemed to go upwind a little better. Over all just had a smoothness to it which was nice. I'm not a fan of the handles on the CWC but maybe with time I could get use to them.  I'd imagine if I were to get the 8 CWC Which would be handy for sure, I'd want to make a boom for it.
Personally at my very novice stage, and being on a lake, I prefer my Slick 7m over the CWC 7. YMMV.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: randomfoiler on December 04, 2021, 08:13:09 AM
thanks for the replies deja vu and fishman.
I am tempted to get the 8m CWC. I don't mind the handles on the 5m Strike so that won't deter me.
The only open question is what to expect from the 7m Ocean Rodeo ... I love my 4m OR ...
Either way, winter is here and I have at least 4 more months to make up my mind before the lake will thaw.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Dwight (DW) on December 04, 2021, 08:17:28 AM
thanks for the replies deja vu and fishman.
I am tempted to get the 8m CWC. I don't mind the handles on the 5m Strike so that won't deter me.
The only open question is what to expect from the 7m Ocean Rodeo ... I love my 4m OR ...
Either way, winter is here and I have at least 4 more months to make up my mind before the lake will thaw.

Does the 7m Aluula OR exist?

I owned the 7m CWC and now own the 6m Aluula OR. No comparison. The OR is way better in light wind. Better pumping, and lighter than the 7m CWC. A 7m OR would certainly better the 8m CWC.

Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: randomfoiler on December 04, 2021, 10:35:18 AM

Does the 7m Aluula OR exist?

I owned the 7m CWC and now own the 6m Aluula OR. No comparison. The OR is way better in light wind. Better pumping, and lighter than the 7m CWC. A 7m OR would certainly better the 8m CWC.

I would agree with you from my previous exposure to the 6m CWC and 5m OR ... from what I have seen the 7m OR doesn't exist yet as they are coming out with a 7m light wind specific version as opposed to a scaled up version ... but I can't find anymore where I last read that ...
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: burchas on December 04, 2021, 11:33:53 AM

Does the 7m Aluula OR exist?

I owned the 7m CWC and now own the 6m Aluula OR. No comparison. The OR is way better in light wind. Better pumping, and lighter than the 7m CWC. A 7m OR would certainly better the 8m CWC.

I would agree with you from my previous exposure to the 6m CWC and 5m OR ... from what I have seen the 7m OR doesn't exist yet as they are coming out with a 7m light wind specific version as opposed to a scaled up version ... but I can't find anymore where I last read that ...

Talking to someone in the know, my understanding is that OR going to come out with more discipline specific wings
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: SeattleFoiler on May 13, 2022, 08:41:14 PM
As a 5'8", 170lb beginner/intermediate winger, will I be too short for the CWC 8m? Some reviews seem to indicate it wouldn't be an issue but I have my doubts.

It looks like I'll be spending most of my summer in the light winds of Lake Washington instead of the Gorge.
Maybe a 7m would be a better fit but I want to be 100% certain that I have enough wing to get out on the lightest days.
I'll be happy enough just mowing the lawn and schlogging home when the wind dies. I just don't want to be sitting on the beach all summer wondering 'what if..'.

Any other LW wings coming out before the end of the season?
The Epic Ghost X wing 7m looks interesting (windows would be nice on a busy lake) but at 8.9lbs seems a bit heavy.

Current biggest wing is a BRM W2 5.5m. Board/foil would be Naish Hover 110L/Axis 1020, but may consider something like the PNG1300.

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: PonoBill on May 13, 2022, 09:49:33 PM
I'm 220# and my biggest wing is a 7M CWC. It's huge and powerful, I can't imagine somebody at 170 needing anything that big. I'd suggest you start with a 6M CWC, which should be plenty even in wind well below 10mph. The 6M CWC has the same wingspan as the 5M so your height won't be an issue. The 7 and 8 have more wingspan and a longer strut which will make jibing very difficult. Winging in light air is a complex thing, and you won't solve all the issues just by going big. For example, when you turn downwind to jibe the wing won't have enough wind to hold it up, so wing weight becomes more important. Light wind also tends to be flukey, so you need to manage gusts and lulls. You might want to try the Axis 1150 which will work fine on your red fuselage, and I think it's a better light wind wing than the 1300. I have a 1300, but rarely use it.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: flkiter on May 14, 2022, 04:49:11 AM
I'm with Pono on getting the 7. The wing span is great and it'll have tons of low end especially paired with the 1150. I have an 8 also in my quiver which I can get out in below 5mph marginal wind by just pumping with the wing over head but the 8 is more like riding a canopy rather than a wing so a different technique is needed to start and turn. I teach with the 7 and it's been great for all sized riders.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: burchas on May 14, 2022, 07:09:19 AM
I agree with the above 2 comments. I'm 5'8 (185-195) and I can't imagine going bigger than the 6M CWC. I can up-foil it from 8knots on the Axis 1010/460.
I still catch the tips from time to time when have to pump it up more than usual and even thought it's one of the lightest wings, the weight is an issue for me in really light wind
and my jibes are still hit and miss in such conditions.

Of course that's all on my poor technic and not the wing but I imagine the bigger wings would have hindered my progression, the 6m was just the right sauce to get me to this point.
I tried some other leading brands 6M back to back with the CWC and I could't up-foil with any of the other designs, always caught a tip before I was I able to fly.

I'll have to add, that a good board is really key in light conditions with smaller wings/foils. I tried couple of Dwight's boards in those conditions and I could feel the difference in the
ease of pop-up compare with other production boards. Took his 4'10"x25.5" @85 Liter with the Axis 890 in around 10knots and 6 CWC and was up with 3 easy pumps.

Just got the new Strike V2 5.5M in a hope to replace the CWC. It's half a pound lighter and stiffer with slightly shorter wing span. Haven't had the conditions to try it yet
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: AGK on May 14, 2022, 07:13:46 AM
+1 for the 7m CWC -- gets on foil in 3-4 mph less than my 5m wing, feels relatively light in the hands, and it also slogs really well slightly upwind when there's not enough wind to get back to the launch on foil.  Very happy with it.

Andy
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: SeattleFoiler on May 14, 2022, 10:03:26 AM
Thanks for the replies.

I definitely understand that with proper technique, board and foil the 6m is probably perfect for me.
But out of those three variables I have to admit that technique is always going to be the biggest limiting factor.
Plus, I still think I'd always be wondering just how much of an improvement a 6m would make on light days compared to just improving my technique with my 5.5m.

Good tip on the 1150. I'll be looking to pick one up for sure (hopefully 2nd hand).
I have some questions about a higher wind (18-25mph) front wing that would work with my board (kicktail, not straight), red fuse and skill level but to keep this on topic, I'll post that in the Axis foils thread.

@burchas, regarding boards - there are a few of Dwight's boards on the water up here. I had always aspired to get one when I was ready to move to HA foils. Bummer that it looks like I missed that window.

Anyways, talking to a few shops it looks like it's going to be tough picking up a bigger wing right now so maybe I just need to shift my focus to dock starting  ;)
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: SeattleFoiler on May 14, 2022, 08:28:43 PM
Just a small update.

Got an unexpected session in today and as luck would have it someone was out with an 8m CWC.
The person flying it was probably 6'6" and it looked like a normal sized wing for them. I got a chance to fly it on the beach and while it was manageable I could tell it wasn't the wing for me.

I was the only one out on a sub-6m wing and I definitely struggled but the session made me realize I probably need to focus more on my pumping techniques than buying more gear. So I'm still undecided on trying to pick up a 7m. (but maybe if i started selling my kite gear a new wing would be easier to swallow...)

The 1150, however, is 'in the cart' as they say. The 'winner' of the day was on a 7m Slick and 1150. 3 pumps and he was up and foiling in some pretty light puffs. Definitely made me envious of his setup and skills.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: PonoBill on May 16, 2022, 10:02:39 AM
Once you have the 1150, beg, borrow, or buy the 6M CWC. I strongly suspect it's all the wing you'd need for any remotely useful light wind. The weight and size of the 7 and 8 limit their usefulness. At some point, any wing foiler starts going backward on the usefulness of big wings. If that was not so we'd have 10 and 12M wings. At 220# and 6'1" (I've shrunk a bit) the 7M is marginal for me. I used the 6M CWC far too often, Using it for conditions that called for a 5M, or even a 4.2M. I just liked the wing too much. That kind of abuse inevitably caused the wing to bag prematurely, and I was considering replacing it with a new 6M CWC. Instead, I bought the 7M and had one of the kite/wing repair ladies on Maui tighten up the canopy with a couple of darts.

I've enjoyed the 7M for the 3 or 4 times I've used it, the torque available to yank myself to my feet is huge, even with almost no wind I can pump myself to my feet. It doesn't feel ridiculously big to me, as the 7M AirRush I used to have did. But in higher winds, like 15mph and up, it doesn't lose as much power when it's luffed, and I can't flag it low--it inevitably grabs a wingtip. The 6M is a much more controllable wing
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: SeattleFoiler on May 16, 2022, 08:48:59 PM
Another update...
Post-session this weekend I was thinking about how much fun winging was and how I'd hate to miss out due to not having the right gear. So I called and emailed a few shops to get on their waitlist for a 7m. Every place told me the same thing "everything is already pre-sold and we don't know when the next shipments will come in, probably july". I figured there was no harm getting on a waitlist as I'd have plenty of time to back out if I had second thoughts.

Well, after a dawn patrol session this morning (it's nice to finally get some wind locally!) I got two calls from shops saying they had unsold 7m CWCs in stock that just came in today. So, long story short a new 7m is on it's way. I figure even it's not the right wing for me, it'll be an easy resell.

(time to put some kites up for sale. anyone need some small strutless kites? or has kitefoiling officially been cancelled? ;))
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Badger on May 22, 2022, 06:57:32 AM
I got my 7m CWC a few days ago and tested it in guessing 8 - 10 mph with occasional gusts to 14. I love it. Very powerful wing with a surprising amount of speed in such light conditions. It's going to increase my session count considerably.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Beasho on May 23, 2022, 01:55:57 PM
I procured a new 8 M Strike.  I just couldn't take it anymore.  My foil amigo Haley weighs ~ 235 and flies everywhere on his 8M.  The other day he was out at Mushroom rock / Mavericks with a San Fran hotshot 'Dave'.  Dave was whining about being way overpowered on his 4.0 meter.  Dave flies under the Golden Gate all the time.   And there was Haley just cruising with is 8 Meter Strike.

The Ocho!!!!

This morning was blowing 15 - 20.  I rigged and it dropped to almost nothing.  Then it picked up, then down, then up.  A 2 hour session on the OCHO.  My first time flying with an Axis 1099.

It was blowing a "steady" 6 to 26.  Suddenly I don't mind gusty.  You get up on the gust and then fly through the lulls.  21 miles of flight with dry hair for the first 1 hour and 10 minutes.  Tips didn't catch.  Much improved set up from my Duotone Echo 7.0.  There seemed to be MORE to pull against in light air.  A nice solid wall from which to pull and attempt flat water starts.  GREAT WING!
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: kwhilden on May 23, 2022, 05:44:34 PM
Seems like 8m Strike is well-loved. Are there any other 8m wings out there?

The only other one I have seen is the Freewing Air V2 8m. I would be curious if anyone has compared this vs the Strike.
Title: Re: F-one 8m Strike CWC - Finally a big wing I'm stoked on!
Post by: Beasho on June 22, 2022, 11:11:32 AM
More amazement flying the 8 meter in Light wind.

It was blowing 8 - 10 mph.  Just below whitecaps.  I figured I would rig big and combine with the GoFoil M280. 

IF there is enough wind to fly the wing, aka not use any strength to hold the wing in the air, then there is enough wind to pump up on the M280.  Takeoff speed is ~ 5 mph.

I am 5' 9" and weigh 190.  When the wind picks "UP" to be consistently white-capping I just use my Axis 1099.  I have flown the 8 meter up to 25 mph and with a harness it is manageable.

The crazy thing yesterday was when I would finally drop off foil the wind felt like it was blowing 3 mph.  The lulls were almost ZERO. 

Wind Chart and Tracks included.  I beat up wind and up current.

Water looked like this:
https://youtu.be/Rck09i5CRMQ
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