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Title: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 21, 2020, 10:14:01 AM
I posted most of this as a response in the F-one thread, but it seems to make more sense as a standalone review. If you're an Airush fan you probably want to stop right here.

I bought a Starboard/Airush 7M recently, and it's heavy and hard to manage. I speak marketing bullshit fluently, and when I see "sturdy" I translate it to "fucking heavy". Which it is. It's also the least forgiving wing I've tried for touching a wingtip down. With my 6M Swing I can manhandle the wing in the first few seconds of a touchdown and recover the wing. With the Airush, even the tiniest momentary touch is unrecoverable--at least by me. The center strut is the longest I've seen and the strongly recommended maximum pressure is 4 pounds which makes the leading edge reasonably stiff and the strut floppy.

It's the biggest leading-edge I've seen.

I broke my own rule of "as soon as you see a long row of handles and two diagonal straps, walk away". I shouldn't have. If the manufacturer can't figure out where to put the straps then I'm not likely to figure out which to grab. The diagonal straps are far forward, while the wing balances way back, so both they and the first two handles seem useless, as is the first of the rear handles. the harness lines on the 7M look to be at least 3 feet apart. If you use a rope harness, which I tried at first, it will probably whack you in the face with every pump, as mine did. I put my fake boom on but the handle position and interference made it useless except for the harness.

The leash is the Swing style, which I like, but it comes with a pointless swivel (is anyone having problems with twisting with a rope leash??) and attaches with a larks-head knot. The leash was attached as delivered, and when I pumped up the wing for the first time I attached the leash cuff to my board to keep the wing from flying away. As soon as the wing was drawing air the leash popped loose at the lark's head and the wing flew away (I grabbed it just in time after the first cartwheel), though I had done a pull test to make sure it was secure when I started. IMHO this is a remarkably stupid way to attach a safety leash. the swivel was hard to remove because there's a neoprene guard that flips down over it, sewn into the loop which shortens the loop to the point the cuff can't pass through. I had to cut away the guard to remove all that crap and convert the leash to being securely fastened.

The windows are nice but require a lot of care to avoid creasing. That makes the bag about 3-4 feet long. PITA. For some reason, the bag is actually two bags--an inner one and a heavy outer one. I assume they have some purpose in mind for this but I have no clue what it is. The dimensions of both bags are the same.

If there were a 7M F-one I'd ditch this thing, but here in SoCal a 7M is necessary and F-one doesn't make one. I don't know that anyone else makes a better one yet.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: clay on December 21, 2020, 01:20:30 PM
Thanks, saved me $500 (resale hit).

I've been burned three times at various resale penalties and reluctant to try more 7m wings.

Next on my "I hope some other sucker tests this wing" list is Takoon 7m, I hear they are light but look ridiculously wide...
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Dontsink on December 21, 2020, 03:14:55 PM
Well,horses for courses.
I have the 6m and 4m Airush, and i like them both a lot.Never tried a 7m.

The review by McKiteboarding is spot on IMHO, and they also liked it quite a bit, power,weight and handling.

Although they did not test the 7m.Maybe the design just does not click at that size.

I am 75kg/175cm and the 6m feels super compact, never have wingtip catch issues.

Bummer that it did not work out for you, i think anything bigger than 6m is going to be problematic unless you are quite tall.
The Gong proto i saw in pics might be an option, it looked almost rectangular with lots of area for the span.But Gong tend to build on the heavy side.




Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 21, 2020, 04:50:55 PM
I’m 6’2.  I don’t have huge expectations for a 7m wing. I’ve used it three times and I’m getting a little better at managing it, but it’s not getting any lighter. My 6m Fone is really remarkably useful in a wide band of wind speed and I like it. So far I can’t claim to like this and if f-one did a 7m I’d drop this like a bad habit.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Fishman on December 21, 2020, 06:27:26 PM
Thanks, saved me $500 (resale hit).

I've been burned three times at various resale penalties and reluctant to try more 7m wings.

Next on my "I hope some other sucker tests this wing" list is Takoon 7m, I hear they are light but look ridiculously wide...

I've been very happy with the Takoon wings. Where I live I use the 7m most of all. Definitely easier to use than  my Gong, kind of similar to the fone I had but the extra handles. I couldn't tell you if it's better, but I like the Takoon handles more and have no regrets switching over. Really it doesn't feel any wider than the f one when using it and IIRC they were close to the same width just angled differently.  Touching the wing tips doesn't seem like a a problem like with the Gong. don't really think you can go wrong with them.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: paddlur on December 21, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
Funny Bill horses for courses exactly,for me at 5’9” 225lbs I just really like the my 7m SB especially its low end and hi end too,and for me the dreaded wingtip drag I really gotta try hard to drag a tip just rode it this afternoon in fact and remarked to a friend how impressive SB designed this behemoth to not drag tips on there first go around V1 best 7m I’ve tried,albeit bit heavy but highly manageable for me but pretty durable I’ve rode the piss out of that wing from 14mph to 30 and still going strong.I have a new ensis 6m which I like too but only complaint on it is I tend to hit my wing tips more quite a bit on pump off,but kinda getting its or my personal adjustment to lesson this but really amazed how little I catch a tip on my 7m SB,lately riding my ensis quite a bit but pumped up the old SB 7m today just had a blast on it reminded me how much I like that wing,what wind velocity you riding in if it’s too light any big wing gonna tip drag.No way I’m selling my 7m SB anytime soon good backup to my Ensis 6m,The old too each his own,one mans rubbish another mans treasure,you just can’t beat the low end of the SB 7m diesel for us big guys, a old pict back in July flying the diesel behemoth
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: peterp on December 21, 2020, 09:03:10 PM
I've ridden all the Starboard Airush Freewings from 6m down to the 2m and think they are great allround wings, especially in the smaller sizes. The 5m Freewing was deemed best allround wing recently in the Supboardmag's test of 13 wings.

These early days the big wings will be cumbersome and at some point we might find that manufacturers will stop producing anything over 6/7m as better foils and rider-technique compensate for the horse-power. Who remembers the 16-18m kites?

Wrt the leash, the swivel is very useful if you are learning to tack and tend to only do them one way (which is what typically happens). Granted, if you only need to jibe, it's superflous, but it's hardly in the way?

The larks head connection is surely the simplest way way to connect a leash and if it was so terrible, I don't know how it has survived 20+ years on the kites???

I hear you on the handles and general size of the thing - have you seen a v1 Duotone 7m?
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Dontsink on December 21, 2020, 11:05:59 PM
Using larks head on something that has no constant tension and is getting manhandled so much on falls etc is not the best idea IMHO.
I never used it, i removed the part with neoprene  and passed the swivel through its little loop around the depower handle, leash attaches to swivel.
This way you keep the swivel and it cannot undo itself.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: obxDave on December 22, 2020, 01:23:49 AM
One of our local riders has a quiver of Airush wings and he seems happy with them, though I’m pretty sure his largest size is a 6m.

Every time I read a thread like this I keep thinking that winging is waaaay more funner at 167# than it would have been at my old “don’t want to go there again” 197#. For kiteboarding/kitefoiling the extra 30# didn’t extract much of a penalty since you could painlessly go up in kite size and also create a ton of power from working the kite. Seems like we don’t have the same luxury with winging. At 6’ my 6m Echo is as big as I’d ever want to go, and I actually don’t use it that much at all.

Lose weight and gain a shit load of winging performance without the added expense of finding that elusive solve-everything wing for lighter winds! :o
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Dwight (DW) on December 22, 2020, 03:42:08 AM

The larks head connection is surely the simplest way way to connect a leash and if it was so terrible, I don't know how it has survived 20+ years on the kites???


Sorry, I’m calling you out for that statement.

They work kiting, ONLY because the high loads LOCK the larks head. The leash has NO load to lock it in.

In fact, if you have kited for 20 years, you would know larks heads do release on brand NEW kites sometimes. That’s why some bridles have larks head locking plastic sleeves, like Cabrinha for example.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: sflinux on December 22, 2020, 02:14:24 PM
I've been very happy with the Takoon wings. Where I live I use the 7m most of all.
Takoon tested highly here:
https://takoon.com/blogs/news/windsurf-magazine%20 (https://takoon.com/blogs/news/windsurf-magazine%20)
The 7M Takoon has the best published lowest wind range 7-18k.
Starboard Freewing Air 7M = 8-20k
Gong Superpower 9M 8-15k
F-one 6M 8-20k
Slingwing 6.4M 8.7-17.4k
Anyone tested the low end of the 6M BoardridingMaui?
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 22, 2020, 07:03:23 PM

The larks head connection is surely the simplest way way to connect a leash and if it was so terrible, I don't know how it has survived 20+ years on the kites???


Sorry, I’m calling you out for that statement.

They work kiting, ONLY because the high loads LOCK the larks head. The leash has NO load to lock it in.

In fact, if you have kited for 20 years, you would know larks heads do release on brand NEW kites sometimes. That’s why some bridles have larks head locking plastic sleeves, like Cabrinha for example.

Well, that's exactly what I was going to say, but +1. Lark's heads work in tension (sort of) but not in any application where tension gets relaxed--in fact, that's why they exist--so you can have a secure connection under tension that's quick and easy to undo once it's relaxed. Stupid for leashes.

I never rely on the "they've been doing that for xx years argument for anything." People do all kinds of dumb shit for long periods of time. Momentum is a crappy designer.

Paddlur, I note you didn't use the harness attachments. Do you use the diagonal handles at all? Which handles do you generally use? I've mostly settled on number 2 for the front and second to last for the back. I tried to find something the diagonal handles work for but so far nada.

I'll keep using the thing, but it's not because it's good, it's because it's what I've got.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: paddlur on December 22, 2020, 08:53:21 PM

The larks head connection is surely the simplest way way to connect a leash and if it was so terrible, I don't know how it has survived 20+ years on the kites???


Sorry, I’m calling you out for that statement.

They work kiting, ONLY because the high loads LOCK the larks head. The leash has NO load to lock it in.

In fact, if you have kited for 20 years, you would know larks heads do release on brand NEW kites sometimes. That’s why some bridles have larks head locking plastic sleeves, like Cabrinha for example.

Well, that's exactly what I was going to say, but +1. Lark's heads work in tension (sort of) but not in any application where tension gets relaxed--in fact, that's why they exist--so you can have a secure connection under tension that's quick and easy to undo once it's relaxed. Stupid for leashes.

I never rely on the "they've been doing that for xx years argument for anything." People do all kinds of dumb shit for long periods of time. Momentum is a crappy designer.

Paddlur, I note you didn't use the harness attachments. Do you use the diagonal handles at all? Which handles do you generally use? I've mostly settled on number 2 for the front and second to last for the back. I tried to find something the diagonal handles work for but so far nada.

I'll keep using the thing, but it's not because it's good, it's because it's what I've got.
Yep #2 front and 2nd from last trailing power hand and some times a combo of #2 to last handle/ finger splitter on lighter air pump ups,and yes on the diagonal handles do not really use them much at all but have on occasion saved a miss grab with them but generally could take em or leave em.You might be surprised on a decent day and make a new friend with this 7m wing as I’ve tried many bigger wings and not one I’ve tried comes close to low end power of it,and minimal dreaded wingtip drag that bigger wings can have.You know I had the the 6m F1 and just was not a fit for me at all really did not like rear handle location so sold it,just goes to show how different wings fit different riders winging it’s much more a personal individual ergonomic fit as opposed to kiting I find,2 big pluses for me with 7m SB wing as big as that sucker is pretty darn hard to catch a wing tip with it and that diesel low end can’t be beat so far for me.My Ensis 6m comes close though really like it too but for some strange reason on lighter days seem to catch a tip more easily than my 7m SB yeah go figure.Just got a 5.2 Ensis for Xmas present to myself looking forward to trying it out soon.say give a chance you might be surprised down the line
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: peterp on December 22, 2020, 09:12:54 PM

The larks head connection is surely the simplest way way to connect a leash and if it was so terrible, I don't know how it has survived 20+ years on the kites???


Sorry, I’m calling you out for that statement.

They work kiting, ONLY because the high loads LOCK the larks head. The leash has NO load to lock it in.

In fact, if you have kited for 20 years, you would know larks heads do release on brand NEW kites sometimes. That’s why some bridles have larks head locking plastic sleeves, like Cabrinha for example.
Clearly I must be doing something wrong  - never had one come undone, kiting or winging (since 1999), my bad.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: pafoil on December 22, 2020, 09:16:14 PM
I have been using the 7m echo for 6 months now, and I'm very happy with it. It seems to go every time you pump it (8knt and a bi under it's difficult to say). Some of my friends are in 6m airush and they definitely have a lot less low end.
My only complaint about the echo is the weight of the bar, stability, and the fact the boom deforms if you use it in high winds. Mine is bent because I like to use it in 20knt plus, why? better jumps.

I'm using and gl240 in low winds, 6' tall/165 pounds.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 22, 2020, 09:48:57 PM
I thought about the echo, the boom is an easy fix--carbon fiber paddle shaft. Mighty long though.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: pafoil on December 23, 2020, 12:07:58 AM
Better wait for the echo V2 if you are planning to use it in strong winds, there is a lot of pressure in the rope attachment point in the middle of the bar.
Just, my personal opinion.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Supfool on December 23, 2020, 09:25:59 AM
OP has got some really valid points, his post activated me from my dormant lurker state.  I have a 5m Freewing, it too has the ridiculously fat leading edge, huge luff panel and windows and bag that require a Masterclass in folding.  It's my only wingding so I have nothing to compare it against other than windfoiling, which is life. The wing while supposedly grunty is a jokeshow compared to windsurf sails, but I imagine they all are having no battens among other refinements.  What shocks me is how good the high end is on the wing, and while I have heard good things about the 7 I chose to buy a 6.2 from another manufacturer when the time came for a bigger wing, as I am familiar with the law of diminishing returns that affects sails kites and in all likelihood, wings. Also the 7 is so expensive. One thing I was skeptical of with the 5 was upwind ability given the fact luff panel and leading edge were so huge just like on a kite school kite.  Sure enough I struggle getting upwind with it, then again it could also be that I am always a bit underpowered, hence the need for the 6.2 which I am yet to ride.  From what I am hearing about 7s in general is that they work best with harnesses and lines, something I am happy to get away from.  For now I am sticking with a 7m windfoil sail for lightwind instead of a wing, I still think manufacturers need to perfect their bigger sizes as they seem to always be an afterthought in the lineup for manufacturers who do all their r&d in fantasylands like Maui and the Gorge with focus on 3-5m sizes.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Surfside on December 24, 2020, 05:27:13 AM
I've been very happy with the Takoon wings. Where I live I use the 7m most of all.
Takoon tested highly here:
https://takoon.com/blogs/news/windsurf-magazine%20 (https://takoon.com/blogs/news/windsurf-magazine%20)
The 7M Takoon has the best published lowest wind range 7-18k.
Starboard Freewing Air 7M = 8-20k
Gong Superpower 9M 8-15k
F-one 6M 8-20k
Slingwing 6.4M 8.7-17.4k
Anyone tested the low end of the 6M BoardridingMaui?

After three month wait, I received an email this morning that my Takoon 7 has shipped. Yay!
At 215lbs and lack of skill, I was unable to get the F-One 6m going at 8 knots, Gong 9m will get me flying at 8 knots. Will see if this 7m Takoon will get me going at that speed.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: surfcowboy on December 24, 2020, 09:41:18 AM
You guys are tempting me with these low wind speeds. Short guys have it good because we can be lighter but we make bad masts for tall wings lol.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Supfool on December 27, 2020, 12:00:13 PM
Regarding the leash attachment in this wing, the recommended larkspur/knot is absolutely foolish.  It seems Airush got their inspiration from kite and bridle attachments.  It works great in that application where it is constantly under tension, but is terrible for a wing leash that is never under tension other than when the kite is flagged out on the leash.  My workaround was to feed the leash through the leash mount loop then larkspur it to itself. This will never come loose and fly away.  I can't believe Airush chose to use the setup they did.

Well I tried uploading a pic of my knot to this old forum, but nothing.happens when I do, so you will have to play with it until you figure it out, which isn't difficult.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: peterp on December 27, 2020, 12:23:39 PM
Regarding the leash attachment in this wing, the recommended larkspur/knot is absolutely foolish.  It seems Airush got their inspiration from kite and bridle attachments.  It works great in that application where it is constantly under tension, but is terrible for a wing leash that is never under tension other than when the kite is flagged out on the leash.  My workaround was to feed the leash through the leash mount loop then larkspur it to itself. This will never come loose and fly away.  I can't believe Airush chose to use the setup they did.

Well I tried uploading a pic of my knot to this old forum, but nothing.happens when I do, so you will have to play with it until you figure it out, which isn't difficult.

Repeat: All you have to do with a larks head knot is pull it tight once....The guy at factory who assembled PonoBill's wing didn't and Pono Bill forgot to check it before pumping up - that's all there is to that story.

Where does this nonsense, that it only works on kites because its under constant tension, come from? When you attach pigtails to your kite there is absolutely no tension and if you forget to pull them tight before you leave your kite, to get to your bar, then yes, they might fall off, as kite is flapping in the wind before you get it launched....but that doesn't happen - if you just pull it tight, once...
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Supfool on December 27, 2020, 12:57:28 PM
Lol you can trust it if you want, but I am not risking losing a  $1000 wing because it's using a knot that could easily back off if it snags on mast or under any other day-to-day  bumps that the wing is subject to.  Evey time I kite I attach detach my kite limes and can redo the knot.  I shouldn't have to do this with a leash for a wing that I never detach.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Dwight (DW) on December 27, 2020, 02:22:45 PM
It’s not nonsense. Bridles falling off when “new”, popped onto my radar when I got into foiling. Take a new kite, go foil with it, bridle might fall off on day one. It happened to me.

Take a new kite, ride it with a twin tip, no problem because much higher loads lock that new bridle.

So after my bridle falling off, I started to notice things. Like Cabrinha bridles having sliding sleeves to lock every larks on the bridle.

So as a safety system, not the brightest move.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 27, 2020, 08:30:03 PM
2 big pluses for me with 7m SB wing as big as that sucker is pretty darn hard to catch a wing tip with it and that diesel low end can’t be beat so far for me.My Ensis 6m comes close though really like it too but for some strange reason on lighter days seem to catch a tip more easily than my 7m SB yeah go figure.Just got a 5.2 Ensis for Xmas present to myself looking forward to trying it out soon.say give a chance you might be surprised down the line

I'm using it, I don't love it, but it's got a lot of grunt in light wind. I haven't been catching the wing tips much, but when I do, I still can't save it. The whole wing gets pulled down, then the end of the strut touches, and if I don't just bail the board runs into the canopy. It only happens when I'm on the surface pumping to get up, so not that big a deal, it's just something irritating I haven't been able to overcome.

I've been using it in silly light air in Mission Bay, I don't think it's even been more than 7 or 8mph in the gusts. I can't turn downwind to jibe at all since my board speed is higher than the wind speed, so it's been good tacking practice though the tacks are on the surface. I'm not going fast enough to coast through the tack. My left knee is screwed, so I can't pump much, but I mostly do that surf foiling. I'm a little more than a year past my usual knee appointment to get it shot up. CBD helps a little but wingfoiling as much as I can is the best medicine. It helps keep it loose. I guess this really is a geezer sport.

Peter, if you want to use a larkshead for leashes, be my guest. Having a knot that can be easily released on a leash I never have to remove makes zero sense to me. I did tug on the harness line before I inflated the wing. Not my first rodeo either.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Dontsink on December 27, 2020, 09:59:38 PM
For those light wind gybes i find it helps a lot to put the wing flat overhead as soon as you enter the turn.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 28, 2020, 07:30:48 AM
That assumes you have enough wind to hold the wing up while you’re turning downwind. That’s the first thing I tried but it hasn’t worked well. I think the larger problem is my irritatingly hardwired insistence on switching feet which slows my jibes down. I’m working on it. There’s wind today though it’s gloomy and cold. Time to go hit it.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: peterp on December 28, 2020, 11:37:20 AM
Airush have modified the leash attachment as per pic. You can now either hard-loop it or use the larkshead knot which admittedly only makes sense if you are switching the leash between wings as I've been doing.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: paddlur on December 28, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
2 big pluses for me with 7m SB wing as big as that sucker is pretty darn hard to catch a wing tip with it and that diesel low end can’t be beat so far for me.My Ensis 6m comes close though really like it too but for some strange reason on lighter days seem to catch a tip more easily than my 7m SB yeah go figure.Just got a 5.2 Ensis for Xmas present to myself looking forward to trying it out soon.say give a chance you might be surprised down the line

I'm using it, I don't love it, but it's got a lot of grunt in light wind. I haven't been catching the wing tips much, but when I do, I still can't save it. The whole wing gets pulled down, then the end of the strut touches, and if I don't just bail the board runs into the canopy. It only happens when I'm on the surface pumping to get up, so not that big a deal, it's just something irritating I haven't been able to overcome.

I've been using it in silly light air in Mission Bay, I don't think it's even been more than 7 or 8mph in the gusts. I can't turn downwind to jibe at all since my board speed is higher than the wind speed, so it's been good tacking practice though the tacks are on the surface. I'm not going fast enough to coast through the tack. My left knee is screwed, so I can't pump much, but I mostly do that surf foiling. I'm a little more than a year past my usual knee appointment to get it shot up. CBD helps a little but wingfoiling as much as I can is the best medicine. It helps keep it loose. I guess this really is a geezer sport.

Peter, if you want to use a larkshead for leashes, be my guest. Having a knot that can be easily released on a leash I never have to remove makes zero sense to me. I did tug on the harness line before I inflated the wing. Not my first rodeo either.
Bill think any big wing or any wing for that matter especially in our HW weight class in 7-8mph going to suffer,wait till you get 12-15mph day or better with the 1150 F and 420 R be big improvement.SD county is hard for windsports I hear but come January might start some clearing frontal winds might improve next month or so
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: PonoBill on December 28, 2020, 05:05:44 PM

Bill think any big wing or any wing for that matter especially in our HW weight class in 7-8mph going to suffer,wait till you get 12-15mph day or better with the 1150 F and 420 R be big improvement.SD county is hard for windsports I hear but come January might start some clearing frontal winds might improve next month or so

I had a nice session today on Mission Bay in flukey winds. When I got there the wind looked pretty good with a bunch of wings and kites out. I pumped up my 6M and put the 1150/390 on a short fuselage with the 76CM carbon mast I just bought from Admin. Shoulda pumped up the 7M.

The wind died dead just as I got ready to go, everyone cleared off the water but one wing foiler, wandering slowly back and forth, but I went out and wandered around with him, barely able to get the 6M to fly, never mind foil. I came in, considered leaving, and just as I was about to pull the plug the wind picked up and the diehard wingfoiler got up on his foil. Back out, had a pretty good session though there was a lot of pumping involved. Went for about two hours, and then after two full passes with mucho pumping and no flying I gave up, as did most of the other wingfoilers. I put the wing away first (the truck was a flight of stairs away) and when I went back for the foil the wind popped back up. I was soooo tempted to go get the 7M, but my back was aching from all the light wind nonsense, so I gave it up and went home to hot soup and a nice glass of wine.

There are some pretty good wind foilers doing it on Mission Bay. Everyone I saw is better at light wind than I am, and I consider myself above average. Of course, what I consider light wind in the Gorge and on Maui is probably a great wind day here.

I am so fucking spoiled.
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: Supfool on December 28, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
Oh nice they fixed the loop leash attachment.  Imagine using a Lark's head knot for a surfboard or kite leash. Now if only I could find the secret dump valve on the strut of my 5m that they talk about on the website. ;D
Title: Re: 7M Airush/Starboard wing
Post by: peterp on December 29, 2020, 11:42:58 AM
Oh nice they fixed the loop leash attachment.  Imagine using a Lark's head knot for a surfboard or kite leash. Now if only I could find the secret dump valve on the strut of my 5m that they talk about on the website. ;D
Dumpvalve is there on all but the very first one shipped! I have a 6m without the dumpvalve as well.....I tried to justify it with the weight saving...didn't work.
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