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Title: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 03, 2020, 04:57:40 AM
Iíve seen it on someoneís instagram story the new 1250 hs front wing.
Compared to the 1550 it seems to have shorter cord and higher aspect ratio.
It will be interesting to know if it can substitute the 1550.
Anyone test it already?
Thanks!!
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 03, 2020, 05:08:49 AM
Here it is
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Dwight (DW) on October 03, 2020, 10:16:41 AM
I think Matt has the 1250 on the wing board in this video. Waiting for his 1250 review video to drop. It looks like a fast foil that might be fun to surf.

https://youtu.be/5phE9hhD6lo
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: fatfish on October 03, 2020, 10:47:23 AM
Has this been released? 
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 03, 2020, 10:49:33 AM
Not yet
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Velasco on October 03, 2020, 11:48:30 AM
Crap - now my wallet will bleed again!!!!
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: SanoSlatchSup on October 03, 2020, 06:27:34 PM
Here it is
That's a good looking shape/outline. Armstrong guys should be stoked when it comes out. :)
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 06, 2020, 02:04:28 PM
it should be available soon ...
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Dwight (DW) on October 06, 2020, 03:12:03 PM
My dealer said they were released to dealers today. His stock should arrive mid month.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: fatfish on October 07, 2020, 12:04:03 PM
it should be available soon ...

Hey Winged where did you get that screen shot?  Just curious of what the text says and if there are any specs or dimensions.  thanks.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 07, 2020, 01:44:48 PM
Hello Fat,
I got it from the Armstrong foilers group on facebook but actually the picture has been removed from there.
Anyways it doesnít say the specifics.
Official release date is 16th of October by the way.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: fatfish on October 07, 2020, 03:02:54 PM
thanks, i will go back and continue to sock away my pennies for this
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on October 09, 2020, 11:22:46 AM
I hear that it is thinner than the 1050.  Should be pretty quick!
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 09, 2020, 12:57:16 PM
Yes i heard it too, 1 mm thinner..
i have it on order, letís wait and see..
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on October 12, 2020, 11:19:11 AM
Foiltheworld appears to like the 1250!  See the comments in his post:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGOhPUPnlYW/?igshid=panprbu0qjnx

'Also new is this @armstrongfoils 1250HS wing. Pumps & glides like a high aspect wing but still able to carve! HS is no lie, itís definitely a high speed, low drag wing and you can feel it! It doesnít have a super low end lift like some similar wings, but the high end speed is a great trade off!
Iím riding it here with 85/60/212/+1'

-Brian
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 15, 2020, 12:42:33 PM
First review!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pOfSczNHN8

Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: clay on October 16, 2020, 10:24:30 AM
Ride and report (his report is in the video description):

https://www.instagram.com/p/CGYfE99D5Vs/

I like the idea of this wing and all the gofoil nl wings, and would love to ride them.  The limited mast options and big upfront buy in is hard to get onboard with, cost me a small fortune when I sold foils from these brands, could have bought a Mike's Lab foil.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Phils on October 17, 2020, 02:21:29 AM
This will be a very popular foil for Armstrong because of its utility in several disciplines including foil surfing, kiting and winging.  Similar in size to the Lift 200 HA but lower aspect ratio.  5.5 vs 6.8.  Fun size but somewhat limited for winging due to loss of low end.  I have to go one wing size up to use my Lift 200 vs any of my larger foils.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on October 17, 2020, 06:17:19 PM
Mine arrives tomorrow. Coulda used it today in some head high bumps. 1050 just doesnít provide enough glide through gybes in rough conditions (or I just suck). 3m BRM and 1050 and umbrellaíing all over the place. Lit up!  Didnít make it back to my protected keyhole launch so I had to bum rush the shorebreak (king tide so it was gnarly). My method was find a set, follow the last wave in. Rode till I grounded out and jumped. Grabbed the board leash with my free hand and dragged it up out of the impact zone backwards. First walk of shame in a while.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Dwight (DW) on October 20, 2020, 05:10:13 PM
I rode the 1250 today with my 6m. By a wide margin, the fastest wing Iíve ridden.

Unfortunately, Dawn Patrol failed me. All my data wiped out. So no speed data from today.

Great low end. Jackyís everyday wing. She claimed it, so I bought a second one, after we finished the session.

Super easy to ride as fast as you dare, with zero control drama.

Iíll be riding it way more than the 1850.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on October 20, 2020, 11:33:42 PM
Hello Dwight,
With which tail wing did you ride the 1250?
Thanks
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Phils on October 21, 2020, 01:34:49 AM
I rode the 1250 today with my 6m. By a wide margin, the fastest wing Iíve ridden.

Unfortunately, Dawn Patrol failed me. All my data wiped out. So no speed data from today.

Great low end. Jackyís everyday wing. She claimed it, so I bought a second one, after we finished the session.

Super easy to ride as fast as you dare, with zero control drama.

Iíll be riding it way more than the 1850.

Wow. 

His aspect ratios are creeping up with his latest foils having the highest.  Apparently he is working on what he calls "true" HA wings which will be higher than almost anything on the market currently.  So I am guessing higher than 8.  His early prototypes didn't turn well enough but I guess he is closer as there is some specific info due out soon from Armstrong.  I will give up some carving ability to glide on a super HA foil. 
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: Dwight (DW) on October 21, 2020, 03:01:23 AM
Hello Dwight,
With which tail wing did you ride the 1250?
Thanks

300 +1 shim
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winddoctor on November 07, 2020, 12:29:38 PM
Any more reviews/comments on the HS1250? Any quirks? Riding
/tuning tips? Eagerly awaiting mine.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on November 07, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
I tried my new 1250 for the first time yesterday in 14/16 knots and 1 Mt wave.
Way faster than the 1550, super stable and in control. For the first time I was surfing waves at that speed and in control. I love it!
Oh and guess what? It pumps much better than the 1550.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on November 09, 2020, 10:25:05 AM
I'm using my 1250 for wave riding and the 1550 for everything else.  With only a few sessions on the 1250 so far, I feel that transitions may be easier on the 1550, but higher speeds are easier on the 1250.
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: winged surfer on November 09, 2020, 10:44:51 AM
Vb,
I have exactly your same feeling.
Especially heelside to toe side tack are more difficult on the 1250hs In my opinion
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on November 10, 2020, 07:42:52 AM
Vb,
I have exactly your same feeling.
Especially heelside to toe side tack are more difficult on the 1250hs In my opinion

Yeah, I'm still working on my confidence and success rate with tacks, and the 1550 will be the wing that helps me get that level up.  Once I'm super comfortable there, the 1250 will probably be much more approachable. 

In other news, did anyone see that HS850 vid on someone's story on Insta?  Can't recall who it was, or I would have taken a screen shot.  Thing looks insane!  May need to see where that can fit into my foiling needs....
Title: Re: New Armstrong 1250 hs
Post by: VB_Foil on November 13, 2020, 05:42:20 PM
TheProgressionPodcast recently scooped an Armstrong rig (finally) and he posted today on Instagram that heís running a -shim to get a more front footed ride and paired with the KdMaui 13.5Ē tail wing.

Iíve only run the 1250 with the +1 shim. Iím going to keep experimenting with different setups to find what I like best.

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