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Title: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 05:59:11 PM
I have been using the iWatch to track surf sessions for more than 2 years. 

IT IS PHENOMENAL.  I am surprised it doesn't get more chatter on the Zone or elsewhere. 

My wife bought me the apple watch for father's day 2018 version 3.  I was so against Apple products I almost sent it back.

The "Dawn Patrol" app added to the watch is stunning.  I have motivated 1 friend on the East Coast, Paul Murray, to buy one and then all my surf amigo's in California from Jeff Clark to Haley Fiske and Dave Westendorf. . . .

We now trade sessions and have learned to read how good the (foil) session was by length of ride, speed and curvy-ness aka how much we were turning. 

For example here was my hero wave this summer.  East Coast in New England.  Rhode Island on a foil and a 470 yard ride, 1 minute 10 seconds.  Unheard of. 

Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:07:17 PM
Here is an example of my surf Amigo Mark.  He goes out foiling at our local spot in California and sends this report:  71 waves.  Prone Foiling . . . . 4 hours . .  Loop-d-Loop . . . Mark is in good shape. 

Holy Schnockers!!!! 
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:11:59 PM
The TideChart view is so good I threw away my RipCurl TideWatch.  I was going to get the battery replaced and just hucked the $300 RipCurl in the trash.

TideChart costs $5.  Looks like this on the watch face.  Totally gorgeous.

PS: My iWatch 3 died after 2 1/4 years.  The upgrade to a refurbished 5.0 was mandatory to get surf tracking and tides back on the wrist.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:19:22 PM
There was a recent video by Robby Naish where he wanted to track his speed with data.  So he said he went out and bought a 'cheap' apple watch.  Funny!

The video showed a speed overlay on the WingDing footage and I thought there might be a new release of Dawn Patrol or some other way to sync the speed from the watch.  There wasn't BUT while hunting I found "Surf Watch."  It is a surf Forecast App (Free) for the watch and is also pretty fantastic. 

Watch faces look like this.  And the homepage on the iPhone is even slicker!
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:22:01 PM
Homepage for "Surf Watch" looks like this:
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:26:36 PM
Wave Metrics and Speed are available for free on the 1st wave OR all waves for $15 per year.

Otherwise you will see the Tracks and Max Speed and Distance for Every wave (for free).  Here is what a dissected wave ride shows with speed contours along the path of travel.     
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:34:36 PM
Life Saver - Session Saver!

The day after my wife made me Re-Activate the cell service on my iWatch 5 replacement Ruby and I went surfing in Rhode Island.  She thinks the watch is going to help save me if things go really wrong.  I can just call for help!

We had a rental car and it was a cool morning 6:45 am with decent 4 to 6 foot surf.  I shut the door of the rental and went around back to open the trunk.  Trunk locked.  Ruby shut her door and it locked.  I had thrown the keys on the driver seat.  OMFG.  I thought these cars 1) Auto opened the doors and 2) Wouldn't lock you out.  But NOOOO!

After 15 seconds of panic I called my wife on my wrist (still a bit early at home) and said "We have a problem."  She called around and it was AAA that came 35 minutes later and opened the car.  We didn't have much time BUT there was NO ONE around when we first got locked out.  AAA was there fast enough that we managed to save the session. 

Small World Zone Story: "Eastbound" showed up 20 minutes after lockout, pulled right up behind us and talked us off the ledge.  He did have some good college application advice for Ruby.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 06:42:49 PM
Keep other tricks and app recommendations coming.  I am fully converted. 
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 22, 2020, 07:01:37 PM
Apple highlighted the Dawn Patrol app @ 16:57 in it's release video for the iWatch 6.0 last week.  Now that's a good looking face.

https://www.apple.com/uk/apple-events/september-2020/
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: surfcowboy on September 22, 2020, 08:32:26 PM
Been on the fence but the cell service off shore on wind wing has swayed me. I知 looking at the SE since I don稚 need ECG just yet. But Apple leaving that out of the low end watch is pretty lame. Choosing profits over health as one trade put it today. I hadn稚 thought of that but it rings true.

For those on the fence, the previous gen are all on sale too.

Oh, and Naish was saying cheap compared to the high end GPS watches which it still is. Not sure how long those can stay high priced though, right?
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Hdip on September 22, 2020, 08:43:31 PM
Just a reminder for Apple Watch. Cell service does not have to be active to call 911.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: surfcowboy on September 22, 2020, 09:12:44 PM
That痴 a great tip.

I知 more thinking I値l have to call an Uber or a buddy to drive me back to my car when we lose wind halfway to the take out point.

I broke myself of my cell phone work habit a few years ago but I must admit that for the next year or two I値l get more sessions in if I was at least somewhat available to my team. I recently could have extended a session had I known a call canceled so I知 willing to try again. Back in the day I was chained to my phone. Now I知 way less so and the tech is more freeing than a ball and chain.

What痴 the good running/walking app? I use Runkeeper on the phone currently.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: gzasinets on September 22, 2020, 09:50:39 PM
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Try workoutdoors, it痴 brilliant.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 23, 2020, 06:34:03 AM
I broke myself of my cell phone work habit a few years ago but I must admit that for the next year or two I値l get more sessions in if I was at least somewhat available to my team. I recently could have extended a session had I known a call canceled so I知 willing to try again. Back in the day I was chained to my phone. Now I知 way less so and the tech is more freeing than a ball and chain.

The connection IS one downside.  Nothing more light a jolt of lightning than a phone call or double buzz on the wrist while catching a wave.  Really annoying.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: gzasinets on September 23, 2020, 07:37:48 AM
I broke myself of my cell phone work habit a few years ago but I must admit that for the next year or two I値l get more sessions in if I was at least somewhat available to my team. I recently could have extended a session had I known a call canceled so I知 willing to try again. Back in the day I was chained to my phone. Now I知 way less so and the tech is more freeing than a ball and chain.

The connection IS one downside.  Nothing more light a jolt of lightning than a phone call or double buzz on the wrist while catching a wave.  Really annoying.

Do not disturb mode on while working out - there is a setting for that  ;D
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: supthecreek on September 23, 2020, 10:48:10 AM
Mommy knows best!

A Dick Tracy wrist radio is a good tool for any kit!
Beasho.... I think I duplicated your 470 yard ride from way outside the Point yesterday.... ended up past the deck. Biggest I've surfed there in years.  :)
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 23, 2020, 01:25:05 PM
Beasho.... I think I duplicated your 470 yard ride from way outside the Point yesterday.... ended up past the deck. Biggest I've surfed there in years.  :)

I saw the post that you were at the Point yesterday.  The buoys looked pretty sizeable, meaning, that all the tough guys might have been fixing their fins and talking about better waves elsewhere . . . . 

Yes - My ride was on a 6 to 7 foot day.  Foil Only.  No way to connect all the way through on a regular surf board.  BUT when massive I imagine you can ride from Point to the Deck.  AWESOME!
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: PonoBill on September 23, 2020, 04:07:37 PM
I bought an iWatch6 after watching about the first twenty minutes of the launch. Got the aluminum one with the loop band--love the band. No, they aren't cheap, but the tech is outstanding. One lead EKG, pulse rate, and blood oxygen all on your wrist, phone, gps, compass, and all the apps. Quite outstanding. My phone has suddenly become a seconday device. If it wasn't also my wallet I'd just leave it at home.

I had an iWatch 4, I liked it but it disappeared last winter in Maui. No idea where it is. Find my watch didn't work. The iWatch 6 makes the 4 seem like primitive tech.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Quickbeam on September 23, 2020, 09:19:30 PM
I bought an iWatch6 after watching about the first twenty minutes of the launch. Got the aluminum one with the loop band--love the band.

I知 seriously looking at the iWatch 6. Think it might be a Christmas present for myself. I知 curious as to which 斗oop band you ended up with? I count I think 4 different loop bands. I am considering the 都port loop. Is this the one you are referring to?
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: PonoBill on September 23, 2020, 09:42:10 PM
Mine is just a plain loop, no buckle, no magnets--called the solo loop. Just stretchy. The only way it's coming off is if it breaks, which doesn't seem likely.

(https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MYT02_VW_34FR+watch-44-alum-spacegray-nc-6s_VW_34FR_WF_CO)
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Hilly on September 23, 2020, 09:55:49 PM
If it wasn't also my wallet I'd just leave it at home.
Use Apple pay and no need for a wallet
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Quickbeam on September 23, 2020, 10:00:11 PM
Mine is just a plain loop, no buckle, no magnets--called the solo loop. Just stretchy. The only way it's coming off is if it breaks, which doesn't seem likely.

(https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MYT02_VW_34FR+watch-44-alum-spacegray-nc-6s_VW_34FR_WF_CO)

Thanks. I looked at that one (online) and wondered if it would be a pain slipping your hand through the loop every time you take the watch off and put it on. Sounds like it痴 not an issue though. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: surfcowboy on September 24, 2020, 01:30:06 AM
Surfline recommends the UAG strap for security. There痴 also one that covers the face for protection.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Dwight (DW) on September 24, 2020, 04:21:07 AM
Anything but that new single piece, no buckle band, and you need one of these loops to stop it from blowing off your wrist in a big crash.

So many surfers lost Apple Watches to the original band. I知 using the UAG, but it still requires the loop below to make sure it doesn稚 blow off.

Adebena 8 Packs Rubber Replacement Watch Band Strap Loops, Watch Bands Keeper Size 14mm 16mm 18mm 20mm 22mm 24mm 26mm with Removable Tools https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WF83FLV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_r.hBFbW1CEZ0X

My only concern with the new Apple Watch band, is how often to we have to replace it. My silicone wedding rings fly off in about a year when the silicone has stretched too much.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: PonoBill on September 24, 2020, 07:06:26 AM
If it wasn't also my wallet I'd just leave it at home.
Use Apple pay and no need for a wallet

By "wallet" I mean contains all the bullshits card I currently have to carry--license, global entry card, insurance cards, etc.. And a credit card and cash for anywhere that doesn't do electronic transfers. Someday those will all be bits in the cloud, but for now my phone case is my wallet.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 25, 2020, 11:19:05 AM
As I am raving about DAWN PATROL the app has just LOCKED up on my iPhone.

Does anyone know if you can downgrade to an older version. 

I upgraded to version 3.2.2 and the Launch Screen just hangs.  Never gets back to the app.

I am now worried I may lose data or sessions.  Therefore do NOT want to unistall and re-install for example.

Any help?
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Dwight (DW) on September 25, 2020, 11:33:42 AM
Don稚 do anything. Dawn patrol has been emailing everyone saying they know about all the issues with this update and are working hard to fix it.

Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: gzasinets on September 25, 2020, 11:35:37 AM
My 3.2.2 is fine on iOS 14.0.1
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on September 25, 2020, 01:46:44 PM
My 3.2.2 is fine on iOS 14.0.1
 
Just saw the update to iOS 14.0.1  Tried that.  Still No Dice.  Dawn Patrol is locked.

Mmmmm!
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Quickbeam on September 25, 2020, 05:12:46 PM
O.K., after all the talk here, and truth be told I've been thinking about it for a while now, I just ordered the Apple Watch 6. Now I have to wait almost a month to get it! Oh well, they say good things are worth waiting for.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: PonoBill on September 25, 2020, 06:58:24 PM
Dawn patrol has a new update, and once you've installed it you need to reboot the watch. They are aware of the problem. they think they have it fixed, but my guess is we're probably an update or two away from it being all good again. That's just how bugs go.

I'm having a painful empathy moment for them. I toasted two fairly expensive absolute rotary encoders today with a stupid software error. I sat there and watched them go unstable, and then stop working. Tested the fucking things and they are toast. Then I looked at my code and saw the little fuckup that killed them. Eighty bucks for two lines of code. FUCK! Sometimes technology is just depressing.
Title: Re: Apple iWatch with Dawn Patrol SURF TRACKING
Post by: Beasho on October 01, 2020, 03:02:13 PM
I am now going CRAZY not having Dawn Patrol on the iPhone.

I have it on the iWatch, BUT, the home screen is frozon on the iPhone.  I am waiting for a software upgrade before I just un-install and re-install and potentially lose all my sessions. 

For now I just take snapshots from the Watch (Push the Dial and Button simultaneously). 

I was watching a video of JB in Australia and he turned me on to another App:  "Waterspeed"

https://www.waterspeedapp.com/

This shows your tracks and speed, much like Strava, BUT has the option to download GPX data.  This could be great salvation as a result of losing functionality from my Dawn Patrol App:

Here is what a screen shot from Dawn Patrol on the iWatch looks like.  I snap this at the end of each session just to keep a record. 
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