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The Foil Zone => Wingsurfing, Windfoiling, Wingfoiling, Wing SUP => Topic started by: Admin on April 20, 2020, 02:51:55 AM
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This guy has a great 360 that he holds and accelerates backwinded. Pretty different than a lot of the vids where the guys are going leading edge down when they are backwinded. He is basically just oversheeting and doing it old school windsurf style. Also, super smooth foot switch leading into that first tack.
https://www.facebook.com/bob.smith.50309/videos/10219712565456968/UzpfSTEwMjQxMDA4ODU6Vks6Mjg1MjA2OTkzNDg3NjQyOQ/?multi_permalinks=2852003818216374¬if_id=1587305285464250¬if_t=group_highlights
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Most all of these higher level wing foilers are riding “backwinded” (back half of a 360) for extended time periods. Several have been doing it since early last fall. It was always a standard practice in the windsurf world. I suspect we’ll see some new variations to pull out of a backwinded position other than just the standard “tacking” out to complete a 360.
I’m trying to learn to ride backwinded before really trying to complete a 360. At least for my learning process i put the leading edge about half way down, but those high dihedral Duotones just behave a bit different than the flatter wings I guess. FWIW wiping out while backwinded is interesting; I’ve fallen into the wing a few times and smacked hard falling backward (one good thing about still being in a 3/2 suit right now :P). Definitely a move I prefer not to practice while highly powered up. Actually practicing with my short 65cm mast in pretty flat water is generally how I learn stuff given my spazzyness
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Sweet video. I like how he can turn on the speed pretty quickly.
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"This guy has a great 360 ..." apparently that guy is Johnny Heineken, past world kite course race champ and wicked kite foiler, so his foiling and foot skills come pretty easily to him when winging as you can see!
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Ahh! That fits :)
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"This guy has a great 360 ..." apparently that guy is Johnny Heineken, past world kite course race champ and wicked kite foiler, so his foiling and foot skills come pretty easily to him when winging as you can see!
Fucking cheater. Bringing skill to a new sport.
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Sometimes these threads confuse me (sort of like the water start thread). Is anyone on the forum actually trying to learn this move? I know FLKiter is doing some 360’s
So today was really strong, 20ish to low 30’s. Challenging with the short mast, 4m wing, and a sore shoulder, but I picked the lulls to make a few wimpy attempts just to sail backwinded (first half of the 360). Stayed up for a few seconds on one, and then didn’t know what to do next :o. The closest thing I’ve done remotely related to this is sail backwinded on a big ole standard windsurf board. Part of the old freestyle routine we would do back in the earlier days (late 70’s/early 80’s) of windsurfing
https://youtu.be/CzhV7yMdouQ
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Dave, if you were to just jibe normally and ride toeside on that tack, would your front foot stay out on the left rail, or would you do a couple of toe scrunches towards the center? I see your back foot's opposing it but just curious if you usually make adjustments.
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Hey Dave, you're almost there. Just head more down wind and let the wind catch up to you. This will let you get more in front of the wing (it'll start to push you forward instead of against you). Don't worry about looking at the wing, just look down wind and you can pump a little to speed up if the wing is pushing too much. Soon you'll feel the sweet spot. Then just point up wind and you'll come out of it quickly, or pump a little to speed up and get the wind out of the wing to come out of it slower. Also keep the wing held further behind you. More down wind you run, less push from the wing. Hope this helps.
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Dave, if you were to just jibe normally and ride toeside on that tack, would your front foot stay out on the left rail, or would you do a couple of toe scrunches towards the center? I see your back foot's opposing it but just curious if you usually make adjustments.
Nope, no foot adjustment closer to center for me on normal jibes or tacks,...or 360 attempts. Sometimes a small quick adjustment after a foot switch just to tweak the position (see vid).
FWIW, I’ve been riding my big clunky 1900 sq cm Gong XL pro in these higher winds. Liking it more with the mast mounted closer to the rear track position compared to how I used to ride it (closer to center). Back foot closer to the kick pad bump. Just feel like I have better control if/when I bump off the chop with the 5’1” board, and easier to keep from breaching. With that big ole foil I can slow way the heck down during upwind tacks and still stay up on foil :),.......
though it would be fun to try out a high aspect ultra glidey foil....
https://youtu.be/h57vHgAPCV8
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Hey Dave, you're almost there. Just head more down wind and let the wind catch up to you. This will let you get more in front of the wing (it'll start to push you forward instead of against you). Don't worry about looking at the wing, just look down wind and you can pump a little to speed up if the wing is pushing too much. Soon you'll feel the sweet spot. Then just point up wind and you'll come out of it quickly, or pump a little to speed up and get the wind out of the wing to come out of it slower. Also keep the wing held further behind you. More down wind you run, less push from the wing. Hope this helps.
I think I get what you’re saying. Maybe the difference here is trying to ride in a stable backwinded position versus trying to get turned back upwind quickly to complete the 360. For some reason my brain wants me to settle in and ride backwinded for a bit before I turn back upwind (old windsurfing muscle memory). I’m not even going into the turn with that much speed. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I will definitely work on both approaches. Looking forward to working on this without the winds howling over 30 and using a longer mast in some deeper water!
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Hey Dave, are you on a fast or slow foil? A fast foil will be easier in the stronger winds. It'll let you race down wind in the push position. Strong winds are harder to learn this trick for sure and the short mast doesn't help. I found that what helped me was I would ride in the same area and pick an away point, then when I came into the turn, I would try to focus on the down wind point. Eventually everything started to feel slower and easier.
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Hey Dave, are you on a fast or slow foil? A fast foil will be easier in the stronger winds. It'll let you race down wind in the push position. Strong winds are harder to learn this trick for sure and the short mast doesn't help. I found that what helped me was I would ride in the same area and pick an away point, then when I came into the turn, I would try to focus on the down wind point. Eventually everything started to feel slower and easier.
If I had to guess I’d say it’s plenty faster than a 1020 but definitely slower than a Gl180. I was purposely going into the turns slower than I could have since it was blowing hard. No doubt I’d much rather practice this in 15-22 mph with an 80cm mast, but then again the tough conditions are always great training for the ideal conditions. For the few seconds I was riding backwinded it actually felt surprisingly close to being on the downwind side of my big ole windsurf board doing that old freestyle stuff from my kiddy days,......well, except for the issue of balancing up on a foil and not on a 190 liter board! ::)
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Finally made a couple of them today in some lighter wind. Can’t quite finish them completely up on the foil but hey, still a happy camper :). The boom angle doesn’t do it justice, but I definitely would have completely blown them with the drone buzzing me.........Anyway, thanks for the tips FLKiter!
https://youtu.be/nOyhOmPF-5Q
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F-yeah!! Claim it!!
That's awesome!
Thanks for the stoke but you are killing me at the same time. Water here is still 40° and my dealer can't get the S25 from Naish yet because of supply chain issues surrounding Covid. Argghh!!
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F-yeah!! Claim it!!
That's awesome!
Thanks for the stoke but you are killing me at the same time. Water here is still 40° and my dealer can't get the S25 from Naish yet because of supply chain issues surrounding Covid. Argghh!!
Yeah, soundside water temp here is in the 58-63 deg range. ~52 deg was my wimpy lower winter tolerance limit with a hooded/bootied 4/3. Oceanside still too cold. It’s all pretty gusty frontal stuff but winging seems to deal with it well. Still only few short sessions with my 5.3 S25. Ordered a pair of Duotone Echo’s and also doing the wait thing.....
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Looking good Dave, I thought you were trying to go for the push down wind ride. The 360, you're doing is a little easier. You have the wing pointed down which is great for dumping the wind off but I noticed you're not looking out in front of the wing. Look past the wing in the direction you're going and you'll start to shoot out of the turn with speed. The gong video https://youtu.be/Cupp2PfNpEk and http://korvenn-wing-and-foil.com/index.php/2020/01/02/le-360-en-wing-surf/?fbclid=IwAR0gJbZBPEQbwNC3ptC1jQUUoVbPI0nzeBK9TVYoUmAgbaDY0TGZcuDaW_w are the two videos that taught me. I figured out the look past the wing (not down) on my own. The pointing the wing down also helps to stall it in the wind window so when you go for a longer down wind push, key is to not dump it all off or you'll come right around into the 360. But remember to dump it off when you're ready to come into the 360. If you're coming off foil, just pump the board. 2-3 pumps and you'll stay on foil.
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That second day out I was a bit underpowered on the 4m, so when I tried to sail backwinded I just wasn’t efficient enough with the wing to stay up on foil. Still trying to feel out that ideal wing position while on the backside. After a few falls I figured I’d just try carrying as much speed as I could into a continuous (don’t stop halfway) 360 attempt, and it seemed to have worked. Guess I’ll need to be a bit more powered to sustain any backwinded riding, at least for now.
I do tend to look down a lot, especially when learning something new. It’s a weird thing. It’s like I’m trying to go by feel and not focus on one thing (like looking ahead), since I have no muscle memory for the transition. I’ll probably think about looking past the wing next time out,.....and fall a bunch over thinking it! Good point though :).
I’m also still a lousy pumper, not coming from a SUP/surf foil background. But pumping during transitions, and just pumping in general is a big goal for me this year. Last session was just too light for my winging gear, so I kite foiled instead. My so-so kitefoiling 360’s feel completely different from the wing version. Lots to work on....
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Guys are on it.
https://vimeo.com/431712743?fbclid=IwAR3T-A8m6ZOPlAFegwMWslsgcQzF1cVkbZfehwGyA5gLLWjHOXF_cIO0TeY
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That is some impressive foiling. Really like the sort of duck jibe 360 but maybe the most amazing move is at about 4:45 by that kite foiler. Just one hand on the board :o
Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.
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Mike's Lab foils are fast. Heineken is also a bad ass foil racer so probly going at actual speed. Super cool to see the guys throwing down together and so close to each other. I'm sure if wing races catches on, Mike's Lab stuff will be on the top of the podium.
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Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.
Yes! Looked a bit that way to me too, but still very impressive.
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That is some impressive foiling. Really like the sort of duck jibe 360 but maybe the most amazing move is at about 4:45 by that kite foiler. Just one hand on the board :o
Does anyone else think that's being played at 1.1 or 1.2x speed? Those guys are amazing but some of it just looks... unnatural.
Look at the water. All the white caps, or lack of white caps, are moving at the apparent correct speed.
This is all filmed in Rio Vista California just past Antioch. I haven't journeyed there in ~ 15 years but given my new purchase of a wing that may change. Back to the Future. That place with consistent wind at 6 am would be a foilers dream. It can get nearly as windy as the Gorge but probably has way, way more light days than I ever appreciated.
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Look at the water. All the white caps, or lack of white caps, are moving at the apparent correct speed.
Could be it's my life moving at .9x by comparison ;D
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Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5’1”/90l FSM board.
I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear). And now that I’ve publicly divulged this info, I probably won’t make another clean one for some time to come :P
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Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5’1”/90l FSM board.
I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear).
I heard and saw it (coming toward you from outside Big Penguin Island). Good scream, great 360 exit!!
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Very first full on-the-foil 360 completed yesterday with some actual exit speed :). Sorry no camera at the time. Modestly Powered with a 5m Echo, Moses 1100/450/72cm mast and 5’1”/90l FSM board.
I still finish off the foil and crash a lot doing this trick, but getting first clean one was worthy of the happy scream of joy (far from anyone to see or hear).
I heard and saw it (coming toward you from outside Big Penguin Island). Good scream, great 360 exit!!
I stand corrected! (I’m in my own little world out there.....) When your Axis 1150 arrives we should do a side by side swap comparison with the Moses W1100 and the Gong Veloce XL
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When your Axis 1150 arrives we should do a side by side swap comparison with the Moses W1100 and the Gong Veloce XL
Looking forward to the report on that comparison :)
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Finally starting to make more of my 360’s up on the foil. :) This is with the new Echo’s and the Moses W1100. Also getting more used to making the 1100 turn a wee bit more aggressively than when I first started riding it. That is one wide foil.... . I’ll have to try them on my Gong XL pro
https://youtu.be/UXbdZcT_DrI
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Dude, well done! I really want to see one of these from a drone angle. Need to do some YouTube searching.
And yes, you guys update the Gong thread when you get those high aspect wings.
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Dude, well done! I really want to see one of these from a drone angle. Need to do some YouTube searching.
And yes, you guys update the Gong thread when you get those high aspect wings.
I should mention that actually having steady winds under 20 (instead gusting 30+), nice stable Echo’s and a very glidey W1100 makes a big difference being able to get them done on the foil. I guess having just the right gear does make a difference for us older types needing all the help we can get....
I was thinking the same thing on the drone. I only did the one drone session this spring during lockdown when there was hardly anyone around. This particular drone is way LOUD and intimidating. It’s like I need to have my moves pretty nailed down to make them in the 15 min window with that full throttle chainsaw buzzin right next to me! Oh, and find an empty location with a good landing zone. Not so easy with the summer crowds in town and wingers/kiters out in force... Maybe I’ll try my tripod setup with the 360 cam again. (I do have a Skydio 2 on preorder)
Veloce XL finally shipped :). Mentally preparing myself to strap onto a 1.7 cm thick hyper sensitive blade!... :P
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I hear the Moses whistling. Mine did, on and off.
I sanded everything per this video and it stopped completely. I think my mast was the cause. The trailing edge did not meet this guys specs.
https://youtu.be/6rcCk8bAF10
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Hell's yeah! That is the real deal. Very nice. You must have got a lot of them as it was smooth as butter. Also because you seem to be relatively non chalant about it. If it had been me, I would have been claiming it so loud they would heard me all the way to Nags Head. Ha ha!
Unbelievably still waiting for my Naish S25 5.3 and 3.6 wings. I snagged Bill's 2.8 (thanks Bill!) which should get here Monday but imagine won't get the conditions here to really use it as we are in the summer doldrums for wind.
Thanks again for the inspiration!
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https://youtu.be/UXbdZcT_DrI
Cool, I get a cameo in the background.
BTW, I sometimes get the feeling that Dave is too humble.
I would be completely stoked to do a 360 if I stayed upright.
He seems to discount them when he has the slightest touchdown. ;D
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I tried my first 3 360's today. 6.0 Swing. It was a humble start but a start.
1. Went into it confident, immediately caught my enormous wingtip, that overcommitted me, wrecked into the wing.
2. Being too careful of my wingtip, I carved around, got to backwinded without enough speed and without the wing back enough. Blown back on my ass.
3. Went in faster, wing back more (still not enough), man does a wing feel odd backwinded, back more but too late. Started to come a little back upwind. Blown back.
I really had no plan to start this on a 6.0 but the wind was so smooth today that I couldn't help myself. Looking forward to a mellow 4.2 session.
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I tried my first 3 360's today. 6.0 Swing. It was a humble start but a start.
1. Went into it confident, immediately caught my enormous wingtip, that overcommitted me, wrecked into the wing.
2. Being too careful of my wingtip, I carved around, got to backwinded without enough speed and without the wing back enough. Blown back on my ass.
3. Went in faster, wing back more (still not enough), man does a wing feel odd backwinded, back more but too late. Started to come a little back upwind. Blown back.
I really had no plan to start this on a 6.0 but the wind was so smooth today that I couldn't help myself. Looking forward to a mellow 4.2 session.
Sounds like you were almost there. Easier in the lighter winds to learn it. Don't look at the wing, try to look past it and pump the foil if needed to get past the wing. Keep the wing to the rear hip and once you get past the wing, it'll usually turn you automatically. You can also shoot down wind to get away from the push. I usually focus more on keeping the foil under water if I'm in waves or open ocean conditions, that's really the only variable once you learn it.
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Appreciate the tips flkiter. For back winding when you have the wing back is your front arm a little more extended and braced and then moderating with the back arm? That is what I think I am seeing and how I am visualizing it.
My only reference is windsurfing where we have a mastfoot that locks the lower part of the sail. The free wingtip down there really surprised me when it gets back pressure. What are you doing with that?
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I'm bracing with the front arm like you're thinking but I head down wind dumping off power. As soon as I come up wind then I'm completing the 360. When windsurfering you can edge harder against the sail since it's connected to the board. Plan to just go down wind. You'll find a balance of down wind speed and think of the wing is just assisting the foil. A good way to learn this is come into the turn and go way down wind, pump the foil some to out run the wing. If the wing is pushing too hard against you, pump to get past the wing or veer down wind some to spill the power but be ready for the speed.
You'll get them really soon. You can actually do the whole 360 without the wing if you have enough speed. The wing is just there to assist the foil.
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I'd join you in your quest, but i'm still not getting foiling jibes with any consistency. I'd feel stupid to be able to do 360's and not be able to jibe. I need to settle on a technique, I'm still doing it differently every time.
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That helps me a lot FL. I will try a bunch more today.
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I'd join you in your quest, but i'm still not getting foiling jibes with any consistency. I'd feel stupid to be able to do 360's and not be able to jibe. I need to settle on a technique, I'm still doing it differently every time.
Bill,
You are foiling through every jibe. Your consistency is awesome on both port and starboard. You just haven't committed to riding toeside (because you have developed a remarkably good surface switch-even in crazy conditions) so you are intentionally setting down at the very end. If you finish your jibe, still flying, at just a little past downwind and don't switch your feet, you will feel toeside. It is super awkward but ride that way as long as you can hold it. With some practice you will be able to gradually bring it more and more upwind. If you do that a bunch you will have toeside in no time. If you still want to switch your feet you can do it then, after you are already under control on the new tack.
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I'd join you in your quest, but i'm still not getting foiling jibes with any consistency. I'd feel stupid to be able to do 360's and not be able to jibe. I need to settle on a technique, I'm still doing it differently every time.
Bill,
You are foiling through every jibe. Your consistency is awesome on both port and starboard. You just haven't committed to riding toeside (because you have developed a remarkably good surface switch-even in crazy conditions) so you are intentionally setting down. If you finish your jibe, still flying, at just a little past downwind and don't switch your feet, you will feel toeside. It is super awkward but ride that way as long as you can hold it. With some practice you will be able to gradually bring it more and more upwind. If you do that a bunch you will have toeside in no time. If you still want to switch your feet you can do it then, after you are already under control on the new tack.
I agree with this 100%. Bill is very, very good on the surface. Not an easy thing. He definitely has the skills to take on whatever foiling move he chooses m
On another note, I was on the water yesterday when Fred Hope was doing some winging 360s. So graceful. The kid is good.
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I tried my first 3 360's today. 6.0 Swing. It was a humble start but a start.
1. Went into it confident, immediately caught my enormous wingtip, that overcommitted me, wrecked into the wing.
2. Being too careful of my wingtip, I carved around, got to backwinded without enough speed and without the wing back enough. Blown back on my ass.
3. Went in faster, wing back more (still not enough), man does a wing feel odd backwinded, back more but too late. Started to come a little back upwind. Blown back.
I really had no plan to start this on a 6.0 but the wind was so smooth today that I couldn't help myself. Looking forward to a mellow 4.2 session.
That 6m swing does have a huge wing span. The one time I used Andy’s I was constantly catching a tip. Even with my little 4m Echo I’ll briefly drag a wing tip while I’m backwinded. Here are some slo-mo clips of what seems to work for me with my gear and limited skill. I guess you’d call it an observation of what I do to get around in one piece, and not a how-to. Like Nick says with enough entry speed and a “glidey” foil you almost don’t need much (if any) backwinded push from the wing. But I kinda like that brief backwinded push. Probably spent 3 months just to get them where I’m not falling constantly. Did I mention how many knee starts I average per session :P
https://youtu.be/rzolxrkazW0
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That is a great step by step Dave. Very helpful. I was hoping that I might get by without tucking that low wingtip back but I am going to need to commit to it. Such a cool move!
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That is a great step by step Dave. Very helpful. I was hoping that I might get by without tucking that low wingtip back but I am going to need to commit to it. Such a cool move!
. It is definitely a full commit move. If I hesitate for half a second I’m toast. One of those falls in the video was my standard “hesitation fall”. At least my from experience the falls aren’t too scary, but then again I’m not up high on a 90+cm mast.....If you try it with one of your smaller Swing’s in more wind maybe the tip issue won’t be as great(?)
Yesterday I had a great session mixing in Some 360’s with other transitions with my 5m Echo and Gong pro XL. It really is a cool sensation and even more cool when you combine it with your other bag-o-tricks, and your not falling every 5 seconds! Here is one unedited series I managed, even with the beach going onlooker’s making me a bit self conscious........I didn’t even have to speed up the video for time between transitions :).
Jibe to toe / tack toe to heel/ 360/ tack heel to toe/ tack toe to heel/ 360/ jibe to toe/ foot switch/ foot switch/jibe to heel
https://youtu.be/I8BmIcHJLaE
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Nice, I can see it, I can feel it, now I just need to do it :).
PS: I just noticed that you and Gunnar are going way more downwind before fully initiating than I had envisioned or tried. That is really different than the windsurfing move. I am stoked now for more flailing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEhfJ0a_t-Q
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Nice, I can see it, I can feel it, now I just need to do it :).
PS: I just noticed that you and Gunnar are going way more downwind before fully initiating than I had envisioned or tried. That is really different than the windsurfing move. I am stoked now for more flailing.
That extra downwind time gives you plenty of time pull the clew (back) of the wing through the eye of the wind smoothly with very little force on the wing and steadily build backwind pressure. If the downwind turn was really tight it would get whipped around really fast and likely knock you right off the board. Wings are much happier changing riding direction with the leading edge into the wind😀 Good luck!
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More tries yesterday in a really smooth afternoon wind, first on 5.0 then on 4.2 (which felt so nice). These tips made the initiation much nicer. Still blew a few completely but a few were better and when things were right I felt like I was getting into a position that could (with a lot of practice) get me there. Held it backwinded with some speed still on two tries and tried to round the corner. I think that I am forgetting to carve the board (foil) but honestly it becomes a blur at a point. Also, not having a boom to push out against is a very weird feeling. Do people push on the strut itself? Great trick to practice.
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I winged away from my first 360 today. So stoked. We had really nice 4.2 conditions (Chan was on a 3.5) that were perfect for working on skills. Warm water, warm air, light current and very steady wind. Pretty ideal. After a few tester laps I felt how good it was and went back in and switched to the 860 wing. I wanted to put in a lot of 360 attempts and that wing is so mellow and comfortable. My first one of the day wasn't bad but the 2nd one was pretty sweet. I am finding that if I can set it up right (downwind with enough speed then getting the wing back and tip under) I can do alright. On this one, that happened really nicely and nothing interrupted the carve. It felt great. I came up into the wind and I still had some speed but I blew it on overstoke. I pushed out with my back hand, dropped off the foil and couldn't save it. Dammit!
Fast forward 10 more attempts which ranged from OK to complete shite. Then comes the one. Really nice patch of wind and very smooth water, nice initiation , good carve, pushed out a little less on my back hand to get myself more upright and dropped off the foil again, but this time I was able to rotate, sheet in and save it. Loud screaming begins.
I'm hoping for a consistent stretch of days like this to get this dialed in and to stay airborn. Here comes August.
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Awesome! One thing that is unique about the 360 is getting to do this really cool fast move without ever having to do the whole release-regrab routine with the wing. Time to rig the camera or bribe the video assistant ;D
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Awesome! One thing that is unique about the 360 is getting to do this really cool fast move without ever having to do the whole release-regrab routine with the wing. Time to rig the camera or bribe the video assistant ;D
Oh yeah! not to mention that you don't have to move your feet. I love that about this sport. There is a whole group of really cool moves that can be done with no foot movement.
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Congratulations Admin. Awesome accomplishment. One of these days, I’ll sit on my board out there with a GoPro.
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Stopped by the event site yesterday and I saw one 'em Admin, nice solid carve more than 3/4 around. I think for that particular one it was just a matter of pushing the LE through the eye of the wind a hair quicker to get back to power, you were there and still flying ;D
I forgot my phone yesterday, couldn't organize a downwind shuttle and thinking it might die off early launched for the first time at 'cheap beach'. I'd do it again, getting out was not that bad. Hoping for two days off, Friday looks good and windy!
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Nice Admin!
I tried my new Echo 4M wing yesterday for the first time. My friend Jeff shot this blurry video on his phone of a pretty good 360 I pulled off where I rode backwinded for a bit. I find it easier to pull off when I'm a bit underpowered and can turn through the wind quickly. I find that dipping the wing tip into the water a bit as I'm turning helps tighten the turn and tips the wing into a good position.
https://youtu.be/g64XPsIjD4A
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Nice Admin!
I tried my new Echo 4M wing yesterday for the first time. My friend Jeff shot this blurry video on his phone of a pretty good 360 I pulled off where I rode backwinded for a bit. I find it easier to pull off when I'm a bit underpowered and can turn through the wind quickly. I find that dipping the wing tip into the water a bit as I'm turning helps tighten the turn and tips the wing into a good position.
Nice! Every good 360 has a sweet wing tip drag! Not close to being the same, but it reminds me of the back roll hand drag down loop we’d do on a kiteboard. (Pretty soon a 360 will be the no brainer winging trick :) )
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where I rode backwinded for a bit.
That is a sweet one Robert! You are ready to do those to catch backwinded waves.