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Title: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: obxDave on March 18, 2020, 11:27:15 PM
Curious how your wing dinging is being affected by Corona?  I read that even certain beaches are closing down due to Coronavirus. Visitor access to my home town (Outer Banks, NC) has just been shut down as of Tue. Only two bridges in and out, and a police checkpoint has been set up at each location (no confirmed Covid cases but no testing yet either, and since we are a primary east coast beach tourist destination, it’s basically a preemptive measure). As far as I know the beaches themselves remain open to residents and property owners, and it would be almost impossible to close them without mandatory curfews.

We are in the FL Keys at the moment and things are shutting down here as well. At an Airbnb and the only thing we’re doing is going out on the boat to fish, and finding ways to foil. Very few beaches here to start with and the one I was using just closed. I went back to it with the boat and just launched from the water. No one around at all and an awesome light wind session, an no wetsuit!

As much as I love wing foiling as a new skill set, I would never give up kite foiling. I’m finding that for light winds (8-14ish mph) in flat water I will always choose to kite foil if the location and conditions are favorable. Nothing beats the ability of a kite to generate quick massive power,...up on the foil instantly and rocketing in any direction I want. Turn on a dime transitions.  For higher winds and “sketchy” locations wing foiling is winning out. I also like transitioning between each discipline; helps you advance faster than just one type of foiling. Hopefully I’ll get some winging sessions in as well before we leave

Tough times we are in. Trying to stay active without burdening the system
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Wetstuff on March 19, 2020, 10:04:44 AM
I heard that our parks were closed in Maryland.  Here's the real dope.

Temporary facilities closure advisory

Following guidance from the CDC and recommendations from state and local public health authorities in consultation with NPS Public Health Service Officers, Assateague Island National Seashore has temporarily closed the following facilities until further notice in response to the coronavirus COVID-19 outbreak.

Public parking areas, trails and the oversand vehicle zone (permit holders only) remain open. The health and safety of staff and visitors in these facilities is our number one priority. We are working with the NPS Office of Public Health, and the US Public Health Service to closely monitor the coronavirus (COVID-19) situation. In the meantime, we continue to remind our visitors to follow the CDC's guidance to prevent the spread of infectious diseases, including maintaining social distance, covering your mouth and nose when you cough or sneeze, and staying home if you feel sick.

Updates will be posted to the park website and social media channels.

(not sure of the Maryland portion - but don't use it much.  Pic is at the Federal beach from a week ago.)

Jim







Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: obxDave on March 20, 2020, 06:04:12 AM
Well, as of last night Monroe County (FL) Keys has requested all visitors leave by 6 pm Sunday with very few exceptions. Oh well, we did get one week in.  Got in a fun wing foil boat session yesterday. Same beach location I kite foiled the day before. It was kinda fun jibing around the boat. I did have a fun face plant from miss judging the anchor line on one pass.....😀

Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: PonoBill on March 22, 2020, 01:16:40 PM
Hood River is more or less devoid of tourists. This is a town of fewer than 8,000 people with infrastructure for ten times that many. So when I go to Luhr Jensen park to wing foil there are perhaps ten people around, and none of them get closer than 20 feet.

That means getting in to my new O'Neill wetsuit is a bit of a challenge--I could use help getting the hood flap over my head. Getting our of it I must have looked like a snake shedding its skin. Not pretty, and it took quite a while.

Admin just called me and said the wind is coming up to the west. From my window, the water looks like a flawless mirror. I decided the spectacular Ginger, ginger, ginger scones I made for breakfast deserved a little splash of Jameson's in my coffee. I don't do that kind of stuff if I think there's a chance of surfing, never mind foiling. So I'm getting my excuses organized. Admin says Chan already said, "It's too cold". One might think this means we aren't going.

Actually it means just the opposite. We wouldn't need excuses if we weren't going to go.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Chan on March 22, 2020, 01:38:35 PM
a little splash of Jameson's in my coffee.
 We wouldn't need excuses if we weren't going to go.

As you know, that's what we call coffee.  See you on the water!
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: PonoBill on March 22, 2020, 04:20:15 PM
That was fun, ghosting around on the 6M wing. I never feel like pumping tires me out, but when I first get in the water I get up in nothing much for wind. the last few runs across the river I had to work hard to get up--even though it was blowing harder.

Of course, as soon as we put the gear away the wind popped up another 5mph. Oh well, it was great sliding across the unruffled river in a wind that was probably under 10mph most of the time. As soon as I turned downwind my wing came down. The 6M makes great use of apparent wind, but most times that I tried to angle down I'd graze a wingtip. Mostly I saved it, but I flipped the wing a few times. I hate it when that happens.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Chan on March 22, 2020, 07:57:48 PM
You seem to be handling this virus distancing too well.  Maybe you're a GenXer

https://parade.com/1011986/korinmiller/generation-x-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR2ZOh1uDMwE3dLBL4yPvn4JArV21QNXlmssQR62iM2ZcdGGMQsIeFr_6No
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: obxDave on March 23, 2020, 12:37:03 AM
Hood River is more or less devoid of tourists. This is a town of fewer than 8,000 people with infrastructure for ten times that many. So when I go to Luhr Jensen park to wing foil there are perhaps ten people around, and none of them get closer than 20 feet.

Sounds like an ideal place to ride this mess out. Haven’t been to Hood River since 1984 on a windsurfing trip. Remember riding at the hatchery quite well. Hatteras Island has actually gone quiet with the visitors locked out, similar to our hurricane evacuation periods. The scary part, in addition to the virus itself, are the local hand-to-mouth hospitality workers suddenly out of work and small businesses one loan payment away from disaster.   It will be interesting to see how places like Real Watersports and Kitty Hawk Kites survive strictly on internet sales. I might reduced to riding in the back yard or just from the boat 🤪
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Admin on March 23, 2020, 02:14:04 AM
That was fun, ghosting around on the 6M wing. I never feel like pumping tires me out, but when I first get in the water I get up in nothing much for wind. the last few runs across the river I had to work hard to get up--even though it was blowing harder.

Of course, as soon as we put the gear away the wind popped up another 5mph. Oh well, it was great sliding across the unruffled river in a wind that was probably under 10mph most of the time. As soon as I turned downwind my wing came down. The 6M makes great use of apparent wind, but most times that I tried to angle down I'd graze a wingtip. Mostly I saved it, but I flipped the wing a few times. I hate it when that happens.

That was a hoot!  Bill and I had the place to ourselves for a good hour in really light wind and it was super smooth and awesome.  I do want to gloat for a moment because Bill and Chan both bet me that it was too light and that I would not be foiling when I first went out...and they each now owe me an elbow job (corona precaution). 

Bill and I were working on transitions and were using each other as jibe buoys (after one of us would inevitably crash).  I realized that I enjoy trying to jibe around Bill more than the opposite.  This is especially true now because we have taken to yelling "humiliation" as we make our attempts.

Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Chan on March 23, 2020, 06:53:52 AM
He was carried most of the way across the river on the apparent gloating.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: PonoBill on March 23, 2020, 07:58:44 AM
C-- "He was carried most of the way across the river on the apparent gloating."

A-- "This is especially true now because we have taken to yelling "humiliation" as we make our attempts."

C-- The simple nut sack levitation effect reduced foil weight enough so that no assistance from the wing was required.

A-- So THAT'S what you were yelling. I thought you were acknowledging your unfair advantage by yelling "Levitation!". I was watching for some kind of Micael Jackson nut grab. I was yelling "Horace Greely Go Home".
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Thatspec on March 23, 2020, 01:36:28 PM
Hmmmm...
https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-stay-at-home-order-coronavirus-covid-19-kate-brown/

Foiling is pretty similar to hiking and jogging right?
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Admin on March 23, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
Hmmmm...
https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-stay-at-home-order-coronavirus-covid-19-kate-brown/

Foiling is pretty similar to hiking and jogging right?

"Recreational activity like jogging or hiking is permitted under the order, so long as people can keep 6 feet away from others."  By that definition, we are good. 
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Phils on March 24, 2020, 02:22:16 AM
Many "lock down" rules permit exercise.  Of course, with all the closures, access to the water is more difficult but I am thankful to be able to continue winging (using Google Earth to find access points has been a fun exercise).  Kiting is pretty much impossible right now in many parts of FL.  I am getting a 6 m wing to expand my opportunities.
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Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: PonoBill on March 24, 2020, 06:20:33 PM
Yes, wing foiling has the potential to be a much more solitary sport than most of the stuff I like to do. Other than admin and Chan I haven't been closer than about 20 feet from anyone with foiling. And once I'm in the water it's more like 100 feet.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Seattle-Wind on March 24, 2020, 06:49:32 PM
Many "lock down" rules permit exercise.  Of course, with all the closures, access to the water is more difficult but I am thankful to be able to continue winging (using Google Earth to find access points has been a fun exercise).  Kiting is pretty much impossible right now in many parts of FL.  I am getting a 6 m wing to expand my opportunities.
(http://)

Hey Phils, how do you like your Armstrong foil for winging? Is that the 2400 front wing you have there?
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: clay on March 24, 2020, 10:03:33 PM
Admin says Chan already said, "It's too cold". One might think this means we aren't going.

Actually it means just the opposite. We wouldn't need excuses if we weren't going to go.

Thanks, this gives me a good laugh and a smile, good medicine.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Phils on March 25, 2020, 01:13:03 AM
Many "lock down" rules permit exercise.  Of course, with all the closures, access to the water is more difficult but I am thankful to be able to continue winging (using Google Earth to find access points has been a fun exercise).  Kiting is pretty much impossible right now in many parts of FL.  I am getting a 6 m wing to expand my opportunities.
(http://)

Hey Phils, how do you like your Armstrong foil for winging? Is that the 2400 front wing you have there?
Very happy with the Armstrong.  The 2400 has tons of lift that is relatively easy to manage.  Also picked up a used 1600 (they are around as more advanced riders are switching to the 1550), but haven't used it yet.  The build quality is superb.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: VB_Foil on March 25, 2020, 01:49:42 PM
Many "lock down" rules permit exercise.  Of course, with all the closures, access to the water is more difficult but I am thankful to be able to continue winging (using Google Earth to find access points has been a fun exercise).  Kiting is pretty much impossible right now in many parts of FL.  I am getting a 6 m wing to expand my opportunities.
(http://)

Hey Phils, how do you like your Armstrong foil for winging? Is that the 2400 front wing you have there?
Very happy with the Armstrong.  The 2400 has tons of lift that is relatively easy to manage.  Also picked up a used 1600 (they are around as more advanced riders are switching to the 1550), but haven't used it yet.  The build quality is superb.

My latest favorite set up (for when there is consistent wind) is the 2400 wing with 50CM fuselage, 232 HS tail, and +1 tail shim.  I used this in a low tide onshore river session with small breaking knee high waves and was ripping gybes on the wave faces and cruising ripples easily.  So Fun!!! 
(also fun for SUP Foil)

The 50CM fuselage makes turns pretty sharp if you let it happen, which can stall/kill speed when gybing, so I'm still trying to sort out that part.  The longer 60 and 70 fuselage draw out the turns and likely keep speed up better.
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: obxDave on March 26, 2020, 01:27:59 AM
Bill and I were working on transitions and were using each other as jibe buoys (after one of us would inevitably crash).  I realized that I enjoy trying to jibe around Bill more than the opposite.  This is especially true now because we have taken to yelling "humiliation" as we make our attempts.

Reminded me that I was using the boat as a beeeg jibe buoy and reference point. Definitely cool though bumping into it would have provided ample humiliation....... Winging from a boat way easier than kiting from a boat. Great tool to have in this state of isolation.  Also my first time winging without a wetsuit in slightly more Cronoa resistant temps!

https://youtu.be/Y6nJTMSyOTo
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: cnski on March 26, 2020, 10:11:02 AM
I heard all launches in the gorge are now closed? What you guys gonna do now?
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Thatspec on March 26, 2020, 10:26:35 AM
I heard all launches in the gorge are now closed? What you guys gonna do now?

The problem has become access to the water. Yesterday the hook, marina, and spit were still open. Today I haven't checked.
Anyone planning on bucking the system should do so with at least one witness (preferably at least 6' away), and their attorney on speed dial. At least road and Mt. biking are still ok because of course, these activities are perfectly safe and won't stress emergency resources ::)
Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: Admin on March 29, 2020, 08:50:51 AM
Here is the current message in Oregon as of yesterday (28th). Oregon restrictions should not stop family outings https://www.hoodrivernews.com/news/oregon-restrictions-should-not-stop-family-outings/article_fd011c74-7046-11ea-92b4-8f32a986dfda.html

Gov. Kate Brown said the far-reaching executive order she issued this week should not stop immediate families from motoring for relaxation or driving to a trailhead, as long as they maintain proper social distancing while hiking.

It is very measured and seems very reasonable.  Washington State is very similar.  Here is the Quote from Governor Inslee:

"Here is what the order will do, effective for a minimum of two weeks: It essentially requires every Washingtonian to minimize physical contact with others, unless they are pursuing essential activities, like grocery shopping, going to a doctor’s appointment or the pharmacy, or if they work at a business deemed essential to continue functioning during an emergency."

"This does NOT mean you can’t go outside. If you feel like going for a walk, gardening or going for a bike ride, we consider that essential activity too for everyone’s physical and mental health. We all just need to practice social distancing of six feet to protect ourselves and others — everywhere, all the time."


Title: Re: Lite wind foiling and adapting to the current Covid-19 world?
Post by: obxDave on April 02, 2020, 10:53:41 PM
Some beaches in NC now closed to non-motorized watersports due to putting first responders at risk. This was  due to a single water rescue incident. Hasn’t happened on our beach yet but it could..........



CARTERET COUNTY, NC (WITN) - Four towns along the Crystal Coast are now banning people from going into the ocean.

Atlantic Beach, Emerald Isle, Indian Beach, and Pine Knoll Shores will limit recreational water access beginning today.

The towns will fly double-red flags through April 29th because of the coronavirus outbreak.

Swimming, surfing, kiting, and any non-motorized recreational water access is now prohibited. The towns say residents are still allowed to walk, jog, and exercise along the beach strand.

Unseasonably warm weather resulted in a water rescue on Sunday, the towns say, putting first responders at risk to catching the virus.

Towns says they could cite violators, but they hope that people will voluntarily comply with the new restrictions. :)
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