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Title: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on March 18, 2020, 06:48:15 PM
Was just checking Surfline and see that Brevard County here in FL is closing beach access.

https://sites.brevardcounty.us/PIRA/PIRA/ViewRelease.aspx?ID=3797 (https://sites.brevardcounty.us/PIRA/PIRA/ViewRelease.aspx?ID=3797)

Plan B for me is to do some flat water paddling in the lagoon.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: PonoBill on March 18, 2020, 07:20:51 PM
Not surprising in Florida considering the spring break madness.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Caribsurf on March 18, 2020, 08:18:49 PM
Palm Beach beaches and Boca Raton beachs are closed, but surprisingly Delray Beach, which is between both, their beachs are still open..?
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfinJ on March 19, 2020, 01:05:53 AM
Entering the 2nd full day of lockdown here and watching the webcams is parts joy to be able to see the ocean and part frustration in being kept from the continuing clean conditions. When I see the few pirates that have dodged cops and are enjoying the surf, well yea that’s tough too.
For the moment I am choosing to behave for the cause. To be solidaire with all those stuck in the middle of big cities and towns.
This is no time for individualist actions. Luckily I am on the countryside and have space outside at home.

That said I have thoroughly mapped out a covert route using waterways and forest to sneak to the beach. 
Oh the duality of the mind.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: gone_foiling on March 19, 2020, 04:47:11 AM
Collier county (Naples FL) beaches are closed as of yesterday.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: flkiter on March 19, 2020, 07:34:54 AM
All Miami beaches closed today. Looks I'll be heading to the canal or parking lots to wing it. As long as the road stays open to the keys, I can get down there to ride. Smathers beach is closed in key West but we go by boat to the flats.
Also many parks are closed and the bridge to the outer Banks closed so check travel info before trying to run from the lock down.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on March 19, 2020, 08:12:08 AM
So according to florida today, Brevard county is walking back the beach closure to just closing the parking (for now). At my access this morning there were orange cones and tape but I just wheeled around on my bike to take a look. We typically don't get the massive influx of spring breakers, so while there have been a few more folks on the beach lately, it's way more crowded just going to the grocery store.

Hope beaches stay accessible (within reason), I was really counting on being able to escape to the beach & ocean to help my sanity during this.

[urlhttps://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2020/03/16/brevards-beaches-remain-open-now-despite-closings-elsewhere-state/5061625002/][/url]

Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: 805StandUp on March 19, 2020, 09:25:20 AM
We have had a lot of rain in SoCal over the last two weeks.  Was curious about whether Covid-19 persists in waterways.  Sounds like there is still a lot to be learned but passing this along:

https://www.surfrider.org/coastal-blog/entry/covid-19-and-beach-water-quality-updates-from-the-research-community
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Wetstuff on March 19, 2020, 09:55:15 AM
I guess the word has not gotten to Cocoa Beach (12:30 Thurs. 19th)

https://www.surfguru.com/cocoa-beach-pier-surf-report


Jim
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dwight (DW) on March 19, 2020, 02:59:09 PM
Our governor just went on TV and said he’s in favor of Floridians being able to go out for fresh air and said the CDC said fresh air is good. They have asked the county sheriffs to patrol the beach and break up groups of 10. That, along with no beach parking, should get things back under control. Nobody wants the next step. South Florida had to take the next step.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: SUP Leave on March 19, 2020, 07:02:13 PM
California is under full lockdown. Stay in your house except groceries and emergencies.

Unless you live outside, then feel free to roam.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: flkiter on March 19, 2020, 07:54:57 PM
Found out the keys are shutting down Monday, they want hotels to close on Sunday and all tourist to leave the keys.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Quickbeam on March 19, 2020, 08:13:07 PM
California is under full lockdown. Stay in your house except groceries and emergencies.

Just heard this. Wow. Crazy times. Thinking of all of you in California.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Night Wing on March 19, 2020, 08:26:53 PM
Just announced here in Texas. All the beaches on Galveston Island are now closed until further notice.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: tarquin on March 19, 2020, 11:17:23 PM
More and more beaches closing in Europe as well. I think all ports are closed to recreational craft. Use of recreational craft is banned until the end of the month.
 Listen to the doctors begging people to stay home. Once you can see sick people its too late one of the top doctors in Paris said.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Surfside on March 20, 2020, 03:04:46 AM
Just announced here in Texas. All the beaches on Galveston Island are now closed until further notice.

Nope! Beaches are open.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Night Wing on March 20, 2020, 05:44:37 AM
Just announced here in Texas. All the beaches on Galveston Island are now closed until further notice.

Nope! Beaches are open.

I think the city of Galveston would disagree with you on their closing of all the public beaches in their domain.

https://www.galvnews.com/news/free/article_adf63959-93d7-5528-86ed-7f2720b93583.html
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: novaboy on March 20, 2020, 07:34:27 AM
Article says beach facilities are closed. Beaches are open, for now. They may block public access points later
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dwight (DW) on March 20, 2020, 08:23:57 AM
They just banned alcohol to further discourage spring breakers and not ruin it for locals.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on March 20, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
Our SoCal beaches are not closed, but they should be. All the groms that of out of school are out risking getting hepatitis from all the heavy rain run off. It's been raining steady for over a week now, and that water is nasty dirty.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: flkiter on March 20, 2020, 09:02:19 AM
The quarantine count down doesn't really start till everyone is home and settled in their communities. It's like waiting for the last car to get off a bridge so it can go up and let a boat pass. I hope the hotels get shut down soon.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: mrbig on March 20, 2020, 09:33:19 AM
JAX Parks closed. No poles no hugo 🙄
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfcowboy on March 20, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
LA County specifically says you can go exercise for health, outdoors, as long as you are not in a group and practice social distancing.

I’ve never heard a better description of surfing. Now that we’ve had 3 days of no rain I hope to go tomorrow and sit a little further from my buddies than normal.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: maxsonic on March 20, 2020, 08:23:02 PM
California is under full lockdown. Stay in your house except groceries and emergencies.

Unless you live outside, then feel free to roam.

As one of those required to work every day under the Essential Critical Infrastructure, Defense Industrial Base Sector exception, nobody will stop me from going to my local beaches for ocean therapy! 

Of course, I will continue to do my part to maintain a 6' radius social distancing bubble between myself, other humans, and dolphins.

Max
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on March 20, 2020, 09:22:39 PM
So much for social distancing. I walked down to Doheny like I usually do. I'll pass the same few regular walkers and keep our distance. This morning it looked like Memorial Day. Hundreds of people where hanging out, walking, riding bikes, bbq'g, motor homes all along the beach, etc. Kids all over with their parents. Everyone walking their dogs.... I turned around and headed home. Seriously! They don't get it. Stay home means get the motor home out, load it up, and head where everyone else is going. It was even raining a little this morning. 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Mmac on March 20, 2020, 09:23:07 PM
Beaches in Charleston, SC are now closed for 2 months to non-beach residents!  Seems ridiculous.  Another example of provincial, protective mentality here to privatize the beaches. It's been building for years and started with yearly increasing parking restrictions. Island/Beach leaders grasp every opportunity possible to shut down beach access to non-residents, it's really messed up.  Don't move to Charleston SC for it's beaches unless you are wealthy enough to buy island/beach property. 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfcowboy on March 20, 2020, 10:26:03 PM
Yeah, that’s BS. Beaches are free and open. Period.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfinJ on March 21, 2020, 12:18:33 AM
Tough times. The only way to get ahead of this is to really quarantine. That means in or close to home.

I know it’s tough, but we can do this together. If we all take it seriously it is possible.

Solidarity is not an American gene. The problem here is, while the majority of us remain calm and do not panic, this is the group that is complacent about the risks as well.

Sure as surfers we are fairly distanced as is, so we can go surfing. The same is true for walkers, joggers, birdwatchers, climbers, bikers, and all the rest.

The curve has started to point up, ignore that to the detriment of the weak ones in your life. We all have some.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: tarquin on March 21, 2020, 12:23:32 AM
Beaches are no longer free and opened in a lot of places in Europe! You will get fined.
 Too many people were still going out during the confinement. Now they are closed.
 Look at what has happened in other countries and the doctors begging people to stay home. The hospitals cant keep up in the hard hit areas. The army are now flying patients out of the hard hit areas too other hospitals or emergency army hospitals they are setting up away from the bad areas.
 This is not media hype etc anymore. Be sensible about this .
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: maxsonic on March 21, 2020, 07:46:11 AM
Beaches are no longer free and opened in a lot of places in Europe! You will get fined.
 Too many people were still going out during the confinement. Now they are closed.
 Look at what has happened in other countries and the doctors begging people to stay home. The hospitals cant keep up in the hard hit areas. The army are now flying patients out of the hard hit areas too other hospitals or emergency army hospitals they are setting up away from the bad areas.
 This is not media hype etc anymore. Be sensible about this .

Tarquin, this is very good info from those harder hit and perhaps only days, a week, or two weeks ahead of us. I'm reconsidering my previous post now given others reports of people crowding to our beaches (to get outside into the sun). Perhaps I'll only go to my secret spots now, that are super low density. Those of us who are still working under these conditions are under an incredible amount of stress, and for me de-stressing is not sitting in the house watching Netflix.

If you have yet seen this YouTube video, it is a really good explanation related to the mathematics of the problem we're all facing. I pray that the measures being put in place now will break the exponential growth curve.

Max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dwight (DW) on March 21, 2020, 08:05:11 AM
https://flip.it/MA_n_1

I like what this is saying


From the article

A low probability of catching COVID-19
The World Health Organization (“WHO”) released a study on how China responded to COVID-19. Currently, this study is one of the most exhaustive pieces published on how the virus spreads.
The results of their research show that COVID-19 doesn’t spread as easily as we first thought or the media had us believe (remember people abandoned their dogs out of fear of getting infected). According to their report if you come in contact with someone who tests positive for COVID-19 you have a 1–5% chance of catching it as well. The variability is large because the infection is based on the type of contact and how long.
The majority of viral infections come from prolonged exposures in confined spaces with other infected individuals. Person-to-person and surface contact is by far the most common cause. From the WHO report, “When a cluster of several infected people occurred in China, it was most often (78–85%) caused by an infection within the family by droplets and other carriers of infection in close contact with an infected person.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Quickbeam on March 21, 2020, 09:11:51 AM
Interesting read. Thanks Dwight.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surlygringo on March 21, 2020, 10:46:10 AM
It does seem pretty unlikely that one would catch COVID19 winging around in the ocean. However, as someone who is married to a healthcare worker, I would ask that everyone get in the habit of distancing yourself from other people while  traveling to the water, launching, etc. It really isn’t too hard to chat with your friends while staying 6 feet apart, and it is the only thing we can do right now to help protect people who don’t have the option to stay home. It can be hard to get used to at first, but hey, if we can learn to wing on a foil we can learn to stay 6 feet away from our friends and other people while we’re doing it.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: LaPerouseBay on March 21, 2020, 12:57:27 PM
https://flip.it/MA_n_1

I like what this is saying


Whew, glad I read that.  All these weeks of science jabber had me worried.  Thanks for the heads up.  I was about to drop some cash on this stuff, maybe I don't need it after all.  I may try Alex Jones' toothpaste though, just to be safe.   

https://twitter.com/i/status/1227657884395327489
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dwight (DW) on March 21, 2020, 02:32:02 PM
Korea 🇰🇷 has set up ‘phone booths’ that can test people for the coronavirus in just 7 minutes. The country has earned praise for its mass https://twitter.com/ErikSolheim/status/1241259513212211200?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Problem solved.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: southwesterly on March 21, 2020, 03:05:17 PM
Although the streets and shops in Santa Cruz are looking like a ghost town, the surf at Pleasure Point is just as crowded as usual.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Tom on March 21, 2020, 03:34:28 PM
Quote
The results of their research show that COVID-19 doesn’t spread as easily as we first thought or the media had us believe (remember people abandoned their dogs out of fear of getting infected). According to their report if you come in contact with someone who tests positive for COVID-19 you have a 1–5% chance of catching it as wel

I'm not disputing the experts, just trying to understand. If is doesn't spread so easily, why is is spreading so rapidly and so widely? There is no way to stop it, so why is it eventually declining where it spread rapidly?

My only guess is that most people in the areas of China and Italy where it has been around for a longer period of time have been exposed. Some are naturally susceptible to the virus, some are naturally resistant to it. Over time, almost everyone has been exposed, some got sick, some not.  Social distancing's goal is to slow the rate on exposure to keep the medical care from being overwhelmed, not to prevent people from being eventually exposed. Almost everyone will be exposed at one time or another, probably before the 12 to 18 months it will take to develop a vaccine.

Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Beasho on March 21, 2020, 03:39:03 PM
https://flip.it/MA_n_1
I like what this is saying

These perspectives are consistent with what I have been finding.  I do NOT want to be too pollyanna but when people are posting about DOOMSDAY and what it's like to catch this or relating to smallpox I am perceiving this as a form of TERRORISM.  SCARY as Heck but NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN to 99.5% of the Planet.

Deaths in the United States are still low.  Children and People to the age of 50 are being killed at rates similar to yearly FLU 0.1%.  That is 1 in 1000 people.  More like 1 in 50,000 if you are 10 or younger.   

I will also restate: The United States is NOT ITALY.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Beasho on March 21, 2020, 03:46:08 PM
Although the streets and shops in Santa Cruz are looking like a ghost town, the surf at Pleasure Point is just as crowded as usual.

There are traffic jams in Half Moon Bay, CA right now.  Shelter in Place, with permitted exercise, has turned into people driving 20 miles to walk their dogs on the beach.  The local Barbaras Fish Trap Restaurant had a line of people 50 deep.  COVID-19 better be more benign or we may be foobarred. 

Beach Walkers:
http://www.miramarbeachrestaurant.com/live-web-cams
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dwight (DW) on March 21, 2020, 04:48:07 PM
At our park today, somebody ripped the toilet paper rack (held 12 rolls) off the wall and took the whole thing. The other rack (holding 5 rolls) was made of stainless steel with a huge padlock. It was badly damaged, but still there.

The world is ending for some people apparently.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfcowboy on March 21, 2020, 07:00:57 PM
Great session in North LA County.

Maybe 15 folks in the water, ones and twos and families on the beach spaced apart nicely. Sunny day, fresh air, clean clear water, sunny disposition. This is how beach access should be maintained. I feel so much better.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on March 21, 2020, 08:14:05 PM
I had a mega socially distanced paddle today :) Like 3 miles out... Beautiful day too.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: LaPerouseBay on March 22, 2020, 12:49:48 AM
   
I will also restate: The United States is NOT ITALY.

And Hawaii isn't too enamored with the mainland these days.   

Governor announced it today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3I0wJqaQuiw&feature=emb_logo


Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: LaPerouseBay on March 22, 2020, 09:13:22 AM
Maui beach parks are closing Monday.  Inbound tourists and returning residents are "required" to self quarantine for 14 days.  It won't affect access to the ocean - other than the loss of some parking.  Going to be a lot of stinky bushes if they lock the bathrooms. 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Beasho on March 22, 2020, 12:40:02 PM
https://flip.it/MA_n_1
I like what this is saying
I will also restate: The United States is NOT ITALY.

New York State is starting to smell like Italy.  Let's all hope that the similarities don't start killing people.

1) States Charted - Only 1 State Jumping out
2) Latest Cases NY plotted vs Italy
3) Death rates NY vs ITALY
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: tarquin on March 22, 2020, 01:18:51 PM
They are now understanding that the hardest hit areas had multiple cases confined in a small areas. That's when it goes ballistic. I guess lots of confined work space restaurants bars etc in New York. They will probably find out a lot of people came back from Europe with it then where in confined spaces with multiple cases.
 This again is why South Korea has nailed it. Testing and an app that shows where infected people are. Anytime multiple infected people start to converge they get a text and disperse. They are still going about their daily lives and walking around.
 We are only just seeing VOLUNTRY testing in France. Confinement after it has spread and no testing? Hows that working for Italy?If 1 person in the family has it they will all get it eventually. Families touch each other share food etc more.
 The small town in Italy that has no deaths and no new cases TESTED.
 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: 805StandUp on March 22, 2020, 09:44:19 PM
Recent article in LA Times about crowds at L.A. beaches causing them to close beach parking lots and potentially impose other restrictions...

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-22/california-coronavirus-cases-deaths-rise-newsom
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: peterp on March 23, 2020, 12:51:32 PM
South Africa - Cape Town beaches closed for all watersports from tomorrow - entire country in lock-down from Thursday midnight for 21 days. Not allowed to leave the house except to buy food and seek medical attention.

Work has gone to sh#t and now we have to do jumping jacks for 3 weeks! It just got real.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: SUP Leave on March 23, 2020, 02:58:12 PM
It is a strange mixed message from the government. They tell you it is OK to exercise outdoors, but not OK to park somewhere to do said exercise.

I'm pretty sure the beach has a lot more room than a city block for social distancing.

In WA state there has been a massive uproar over people visiting the beaches over the weekend. This panic has induced major tribalism among the locals. The same thing happening in Hawaii. People living in these places are making social media posts saying things like; "You coming here is the same as murdering my family." Their point being that the smaller local hospitals do not have capacity for ICU beds, which is true, but the infection rate is still scalable to the size of the community.

Not going to lie, my daughters and I surfed this weekend. Drove 60 miles away to a secluded spot that works on certain tides and swells. We had an entire cove beach to ourselves. We were at a state park that was open for day use. But, I felt pretty guilty the entire time.  However, any day I get to surf with all of my girls at once is worth more than anything to me, so I would do it again.

This afternoon we will get our political performance for the day, and will probably lose beach access for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2020, 04:27:46 PM
Everyone have always exercised social distancing when I show up on my SUP
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfinJ on March 24, 2020, 02:09:12 AM
Oh do the waves look sweet today. The webcams are showing paradise, but empty.

If I was not on lockdown I would be out there. Social distancingis easy for us.

But with the little devil in one ear egging me on to go, 'no one will know',
I guess this is a time to work on my selfish tendencies.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Area 10 on March 24, 2020, 05:50:07 AM
South Africa - Cape Town beaches closed for all watersports from tomorrow - entire country in lock-down from Thursday midnight for 21 days. Not allowed to leave the house except to buy food and seek medical attention.

Work has gone to sh#t and now we have to do jumping jacks for 3 weeks! It just got real.
In the UK we have similar restrictions now except you can leave the house for “one form of exercise a day”. I guess our government is trying to balance the mental health and physical health consequences of lack of activity with the consequences of the virus. If sitting around all day doing nothing might lead to a 0.5% increase in deaths from heart problems, suicide, murder etc then you are getting pretty close to the fatality rate from CV19. And then there is the issue that we are a nation of dog lovers.

Local beach now closed because thousands of tourists descended on this little village at the weekend. There were scenes like that in rural areas across the UK, so the government had little choice but to step up the restrictions.

I am recovering now from what I presume was CV19. I’m on day 12 or 13 now.  I won’t know for sure if it was CV19 because you can’t get tested here. Even some symptomatic patients in hospital here aren’t being tested. So the government figures on numbers with the disease are basically total fantasy. We will have to start watching the overall seasonally-adjusted mortality rate in the country to know what is really going on.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: tarquin on March 24, 2020, 06:29:02 AM
Hope you fully recover soon. Were you in hospital?Does that mean you are immune after. Still seems to be debates about it here.
 All very similar situations here.
We know 2 people that are sick,1 confirmed and 1 not confirmed that were both turned away from hospital as they weren't that sick.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Windwarrior on March 24, 2020, 06:49:49 AM
It is a strange mixed message from the government. They tell you it is OK to exercise outdoors, but not OK to park somewhere to do said exercise.

I'm pretty sure the beach has a lot more room than a city block for social distancing.

In WA state there has been a massive uproar over people visiting the beaches over the weekend. This panic has induced major tribalism among the locals. The same thing happening in Hawaii. People living in these places are making social media posts saying things like; "You coming here is the same as murdering my family." Their point being that the smaller local hospitals do not have capacity for ICU beds, which is true, but the infection rate is still scalable to the size of the community.

Not going to lie, my daughters and I surfed this weekend. Drove 60 miles away to a secluded spot that works on certain tides and swells. We had an entire cove beach to ourselves. We were at a state park that was open for day use. But, I felt pretty guilty the entire time.  However, any day I get to surf with all of my girls at once is worth more than anything to me, so I would do it again.

This afternoon we will get our political performance for the day, and will probably lose beach access for the foreseeable future.
Where'd you go for the cove to surf? Only place I've ever seen with that description is W of Port Crescent.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Area 10 on March 24, 2020, 07:40:43 AM
Hope you fully recover soon. Were you in hospital?Does that mean you are immune after. Still seems to be debates about it here.
 All very similar situations here.
We know 2 people that are sick,1 confirmed and 1 not confirmed that were both turned away from hospital as they weren't that sick.
I’ve got a few days to go before I’ll be back to normal yet, I think. It was what if think of as a “moderate” level of incapacity. I had a couple of days of pneumonia in the middle when coughing up loads of thick green mucus which wasn’t great, but then back to the dry cough. Loads of other secondary symptoms too, sinus headaches, mouth ulcers, conjunctivitis etc. But I’ve felt worse with the flu before and my family seem to only get a very mild illness.

A friend of mine runs a biotech company and thinks that people will most likely have immunity for 6-12 months. Which might mean there will be another big outbreak in December(ish). But bear in mind that there are already different strains of this thing.  By next winter there will probably be many more. So it will all depend on how quickly and successfully vaccines can be made and distributed.

There’s been a bit of an “anti-science” or “anti-expert” vibe in British politics for a few years now. A growing trend. Well, that has certainly turned around now that life-and-death decisions have to be made based on information from people who actually know what they are talking about. So maybe some good will come of this.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Tom on March 24, 2020, 09:53:04 AM
All beaches are closed in San Diego with yellow police tape blocking access to the beach. I saw about a dozen surfers out at the OB beach and 3 or 4 police standing on the sidewalk looking. I asked them what are they going to do. He told me they got out before the tape went up, but soon the lifeguards will take their jetski out to tell them to leave.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: LaPerouseBay on March 25, 2020, 10:38:56 AM
Kai Penny's website.

http://mauisurfreport.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: RATbeachrider on March 25, 2020, 02:12:47 PM
The beach across the street from the house here in South LA County is still open although the parking lot is closed.  Weather has been cold and windy last two days so only the locals are out walking.  My foil spot is about 1.5 miles away and I think the city will prohibit parking along the street to prevent large number of hikers from walking down the trail.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: PonoBill on March 25, 2020, 08:20:22 PM
Talking with my EMT/RT daughter, she said the state emergency services briefing they've had said the reason for closures was the necessity for emergency response people to suit up in PPE to deal with injuries. The emergency responders were burning through the available stocks of PPE at an alarming rate dealing with typical beach and park incidents. She told me this, of course, while I was parked at the Hook with all my wingfoil gear in the truck, looking at some pretty decent wind and sunny but cold weather. I didn't go, but I was sorely tempted. We'll see how things go over the next few days. Hood River has an initiative going to make basic PPE gowns and facemasks. Maui Meyer is spearheading a group to get it done, and their results are pretty amazing. Here's the email I got about it this evening.

Greetings funders, great news from the Gorge!
It's here! We are live, with HMB 50, an Oregon not for profit to procure and donate PPE to health and public safety workers in the Gorge and beyond.

HMB 50 stands for "Hand Made Brigade, 50". 50 is the number of hours from when Dr. Laurel Berge, called me asking for help until the time we donned (and doffed, which apparently is a real word) the first tyvek prototype. (which was prototype 5) It's been a quick 5 days.

It is time to redeem your pledges! If you would like to donate, to our tax deductible organization online, please do so here:  http://nextdoorinc.org/donate/      Use the pull down menu to designate that the donation is being made to the Hand Made Brigade 50. If you would like your donation to be directed towards a specific area of concern (Masks, Shields or Gowns)  Please note that in the comment section.


If you would like to donate via check, to our tax deductible organization, please mail the check, made out to "The Next Door" and send it to 965 Tucker Road, Hood River Oregon, 97031, with HMB50 in the memo line.


If you DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DEDUCTION, Please send a check made out to HMB50 and Mail it to 1002 Oak Street, Hood River, Oregon 97031. If you would like to venmo me, It's @Maui-Meyer.

 
Our fiscal sponsor for tax deductible status, The Next Door, Hood River's leader in community development, and community social service.  Janet Hamada, a person whom I am lucky to call a friend, is the director of this organization. She is a "Super Titan" in my book. I am honored that they have taken HMB 50 on as a client on such short notice and with so much uncertainty.


You contributions have been so generous, and so important. We have, in the last 36 hours:

secured the ability to produce our gowns locally. The first production of this type, in the nation that I am aware of.  50 gowns a day by next week is targeted and at full run, (hopefully in 10-14 days) and more to come.  The bulk of the gowns will be donated to Hood River County's Emergency Response Center, who will, via the regions mutual aid agreement, point the gowns towards the areas of most need.  (The gowns are also being reviewed at the national level, and we plan to release the patterns free of charge to similar production facilities across the country, once we have production/sanitation protocols understood, and in place.)

Ordered 350 gallons of hand sanitizer produced locally to be donated to the Emergency Response Center, for free distribution.

Assisted in funding the production of 3,000 top of the line face shields, for distribution through the Emergency Response Center, to the region. 

There is more to come. I have not looked down yet. Nor will I

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Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on April 01, 2020, 08:17:49 PM
FL Gov. DeSantis issued a safer-at-home order for the state effective 4/3 thru 4/30 ... so I went and read the order (link below) and if I read it right, was surprised to see that Sec 3, Essential Activities; part ii includes:

"Participating in recreational activities (consistent with social distancing guidelines) such as walking, biking, hiking, fishing, hunting, running, or swimming ..."

So my interpretation is, if we behave ourselves, we can be on the beach and in the surf. Which is great news because the Surf forecast for the end of this week is looking promising.

https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/orders/2020/EO_20-91.pdf (https://www.flgov.com/wp-content/uploads/orders/2020/EO_20-91.pdf)
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on April 01, 2020, 09:01:07 PM
I talked to the county lifeguards today, and they said I can go out surfing, just can't park in the beach parking lot or State Park parking lots. There was at least 30 people out surfing at Doheny today. About the same yesterday, but the strong south wind has been blowing it out early. Plus they're ankle slappers. Supposed to pick up in size. I might have my daughter drop me off with my board at the beach below my house tomorrow, and I'll paddle down to DoHo. It's calling for more south wind tomorrow, so that's why it's a maybe.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: SaMoSUP on April 01, 2020, 09:39:37 PM
LAPD told me to get out of the water on Sunday. In LA county the definition of beach includes 1000 feet from the shoreline. So we can't surf unless waves are breaking 1000 feet from shore. Even then, when you come back in you're not allowed to step on the sandy part of the beach or parking lot.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on April 02, 2020, 09:37:23 AM
I don't want to be that Dude.....
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on April 02, 2020, 01:46:56 PM
And this local plea...
https://www.sanclementetimes.com/why-are-you-still-surfing-lowers/
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: stoneaxe on April 02, 2020, 07:31:25 PM
Massachusetts just closed all beach parking lots...but the beaches can still be used for walking fishing etc.....just no crowds. My town closed the town beaches....nobody is supposed to be on them.

Not getting on the water isn't really an option for me. I'll still be going out but i'll have to launch from elsewhere.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on April 02, 2020, 08:06:56 PM
If there's surf here, and the conditions are in my wheelhouse, I’m probably going. My normal spot doesn't get over crowded lineups, and if it does start getting crowded I'll move or just come in. No offense to anyone, but I don't agree there's only one right way here, there are times & places it can be done responsibly.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Windwarrior on April 02, 2020, 08:19:10 PM
Isn't there a stay at home order across the U.S.?
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Dusk Patrol on April 02, 2020, 10:58:45 PM
No federal stay at home order.  Yet. Only advisory. Only certain individual states' governors to date have issued orders.  And there's a debate whether the executive could legally impose a nationwide quarantine anyway. 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Admin on April 03, 2020, 06:06:41 AM
Isn't there a stay at home order across the U.S.?

Some governors and mayors are emphasizing that outdoor exercise is an essential activity.  They are pointing out to obey all restrictions on closed areas.  That seems very sound to me. 
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: TallDude on April 03, 2020, 10:20:07 AM
Isn't there a stay at home order across the U.S.?

Some governors and mayors are emphasizing that outdoor exercise is an essential activity.  They are pointing out to obey all restrictions on closed areas.  That seems very sound to me.
So you might just wing it.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Admin on April 03, 2020, 10:27:30 AM
Here is Google's Mobility report. 

I would tell Google that my mobility sucks except I am pretty sure that is not what they mean.  Hmmmm.

The Community Mobility Reports were developed to be helpful while adhering to our stringent privacy protocols and protecting people’s privacy. No personally identifiable information, such as an individual’s location, contacts or movement, will be made available at any point.

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Windwarrior on April 03, 2020, 10:33:38 AM
I dunno about everyone else but I just assume the nation be under complete quarantine so we can all get back to the norm. Ocean isn't go anywhere any time soon. The more people keep going about their lives by doing what they will, the longer this is going to drag out. The more this drags out, the worse it's going to get.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surfinJ on April 03, 2020, 10:44:20 AM
Our curve has flattened, we are at the peak. That is because of the lockdown. From here positive directions.

I have seen maps of google location movements. And of flight tracking. You guys are still moving a lot!

If you say you say you are going surfing, another guy does something else. You still have a lot of movement and keep spreading.
You will keep a steep curve like this.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Windwarrior on April 03, 2020, 10:53:37 AM
Our curve has flattened, we are at the peak. That is because of the lockdown. From here positive directions.

I have seen maps of google location movements. And of flight tracking. You guys are still moving a lot!

If you say you say you are going surfing, another guy does something else. You still have a lot of movement and keep spreading.
You will keep a steep curve like this.
EXACTLY on the last part BUT we're far from being at the peak. According to Fauci "we're not even at halftime "
THAT tells me that we're in for a looooong haul and to continue to go out and do things not even knowing if you're a carrier is just flat out being a very pompous person. Plain and simple.

I'm parked at home, doing calisthenics every day and whenever I'm bored. Being responsible and getting fit(Brad Pitt fit like in Snatch)🤣.
I go out on my balcony for fresh air and watch a crap ton of movies. Also reading a bunch of books.
I'm doing my part!!!!!
WHO'S WITH ME DAMN IT?
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on April 03, 2020, 07:07:06 PM
I dunno about everyone else but I just assume the nation be under complete quarantine so we can all get back to the norm. Ocean isn't go anywhere any time soon. The more people keep going about their lives by doing what they will, the longer this is going to drag out. The more this drags out, the worse it's going to get.

"So we can all get back to the norm" huh? Is China normal now, how about Hong Kong, S. Korea, Taiwan, Japan or Italy, they are all many, many weeks ahead of us? Not really sure how to put this ... but welcome to the new normal (and oh by the way it's still evolving). How about this, you think kids will be out trick-or-treating 'like normal' on Halloween, you think we'll all be gathering together 'like normal' for big group meals at Thanksgiving & Xmas (mom, dad, kids, grandma, uncle, niece, etc.), you think Times Square will be full of people on New Years Eve 'like normal' (maybe instead of festive hats & glasses, they'll be wearing festive face masks)? I for one don't think this will blow over if we just go sit inside and then we just pick where we left off, it's gonna leave a mark. And oh yeah, in case you haven't been paying attention, the ocean is going somewhere, it's rising.

Feel free to call-me out in 6 months and flame me on how f'n wrong I am. I sure as hell hope I am.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: surf4food on April 03, 2020, 09:13:48 PM
Surfer in Manhattan Beach fined $1000.00.  Partially for mouthing off the the lifeguard.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-29/surfer-fined-1-000-for-ignoring-coronavirus-closure-in-manhattan-beach


Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?  Even if you are allowed to surf, STAY THE FUCK HOME!!!  Need excursus?  Take a walk around your block.  If you live near the beach but the boardwalk/strand is closed, stay off.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Windwarrior on April 04, 2020, 07:17:48 AM
Surfer in Manhattan Beach fined $1000.00.  Partially for mouthing off the the lifeguard.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-29/surfer-fined-1-000-for-ignoring-coronavirus-closure-in-manhattan-beach


Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?  Even if you are allowed to surf, STAY THE FUCK HOME!!!  Need excursus?  Take a walk around your block.  If you live near the beach but the boardwalk/strand is closed, stay off.  Simple as that.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Couldn't have said it any better. 👍
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: justsomeguy on April 04, 2020, 02:13:39 PM
Surfer in Manhattan Beach fined $1000.00.  Partially for mouthing off the the lifeguard.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-29/surfer-fined-1-000-for-ignoring-coronavirus-closure-in-manhattan-beach

Seriously, WTF is wrong with people?  Even if you are allowed to surf, STAY THE FUCK HOME!!!  Need excursus?  Take a walk around your block.  If you live near the beach but the boardwalk/strand is closed, stay off.  Simple as that.

With all due respect, and you're certainly entitled to your own opinions, but seriously ...who the (I'll say it nicely) heck are you to tell me what to do? I'm adhering to the official guidance in my area and acting in a responsible manner when interacting with others. I consider myself a relatively intelligent & responsible adult and I choose to seek out facts & data* in order to make informed decisions on important aspects of my life. Not going to sit here waiting for the next mixed message from the authorities/officials who bungled this right up front and are now essentially still in fire-fighting** mode and trying to catch-up (don't wear mask, nope you should wear a mask, it's ok to be out but practice social distancing, nope stay home ...).

* Note: Thank you again to the zoners who are making facts & data easily available to us.
**Note: No disrespect to firefighters, just a figure of speech.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: Tom on April 04, 2020, 05:48:21 PM
SAN DIEGO —  Recreational boating, swimming and surfing will be prohibited countywide beginning Saturday under new county orders directed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which claimed the life of another resident and reached 1,000 local cases as of Friday
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: digger71 on April 04, 2020, 07:09:12 PM
SAN DIEGO —  Recreational boating, swimming and surfing will be prohibited countywide beginning Saturday under new county orders directed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus, which claimed the life of another resident and reached 1,000 local cases as of Friday

Yeah we had a nice run up here - the beaches in Cardiff (state park managed) open until today.  But after seeing young guys crowding the peak at Cardiff reef and the groms on their e-bikes congregating at Seaside for the past week I knew it was just a matter of time.
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: stoneaxe on April 04, 2020, 10:38:06 PM
Well I was definitely planning to go out tomorrow. But they put these signs today and I don't really want to manscape just to surf.....
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: stoneaxe on April 04, 2020, 11:12:25 PM
In all seriousness. I was planning on going out tomorrow. It's rare for us to get really good surf here this deep in the bay....tomorrow is supposed to be one of those days. Maybe even a once/5 year day. I'm still torn.  Supthecreek has even decided to stop going out for the duration.....he too is concerned about the social message it sends. Are we supposed to stay inside or not? Does our surfing encourage others to do things outside? According to the Gov here we should be staying inside, EXCEPT to get some exercise if we can practice safe social distance. There are still plenty of runners out, bikes too if it's a nice day. The state closed parking lots but the beaches are still open, state parks are still open.

My town has closed the town beaches completely....but left open parks, walking, trails, and other open spaces. Which to me is ludicrous since they present less space to spread out in many cases.  The problem was we had a nice day with all the kids and most parents at home....so all kinds of folks descended on the beaches and there was more than a little social contact going on....so in a reactionary move they closed them completely. The idiots that will gather will still do it...just elsewhere.

I'm basically under complete self quarantine....some rides in my truck around town, walks in the neighborhood but that's been it. My head has gone completely south, vertigo running crazy, hard time sleeping. Being off the water is killing me. I understand the idea of the need for PPE equipment if someone injures themselves. But I'm not sure if maybe the possibility of injury doesn't increase for me by staying off the water, at least in the longer term of a few weeks more. I'll be fucking falling by then.

Still not sure if I'll go out tomorrow (actually today now) or not.

Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: stoneaxe on April 05, 2020, 11:35:51 PM
Decided not to go out Sunday....the idea of the message it sends got to me. But it wasn't easy to do. The video was Brown's Bank Saturday night from the end of my street. Still a little rough but some long rides out there. I looked Sunday mid morning with some binoculars from my deck ( a more distant view through a lot more trees) and it was chest to head corduroy and long, long rides.....probably a once every 5 year swell here so deep in the bay. It was absolute torture and I've been in a shitty mood all day because of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyRRGdZPV34
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: ninja tuna on April 06, 2020, 07:01:48 AM
wow, if going surfing way out there is not social distancing, than I dont know what it is.

GO for it!
Title: Re: Beach Closures - COVID-19
Post by: SUP Leave on April 06, 2020, 09:19:43 AM
WA is on the down hill side of this, but the state likely will not open beaches or parks until 5/4 - would like to see much sooner. For public health purposes it would make a lot of sense to get people out and living. I have a few surf spots that are accessed from roadside pull outs and I decided last night that I was going to start surfing again. The rule I am breaking is we are not supposed to travel for recreation, but I spent a long time thinking up justifications for being a scalawag and there is none. I just want to live the way I want to - so fuck it. I would be driving 40 miles.

WA state is going to have a problem this week as the temperature is going to be over 60 for the first time in a long time. Folks are going to be outside and our nanny state is going to be bloviating full out.

So I'm going to surf again. I also got ahold of the GM of the local golf course to which I pay a yearly membership for me and my family. I told them we were going to start playing. The pro shop is closed and cart barn is closed, but we can play if we carry our bags.

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