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Title: waist leash
Post by: supnsurf on September 08, 2019, 12:53:25 PM
Hi all, what is the best and where do you find a good waist leash ?  Thanks
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: eastbound on September 08, 2019, 12:54:24 PM
leashlok hawaii
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Luc Benac on September 08, 2019, 12:57:40 PM
I use the waist portion by Leashlok but the leash I am going with the Balin Downwind leash. Very happy with the combination.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: FRP on September 08, 2019, 01:24:32 PM
+1 on leashlok Hawaii
You order the leash you want (it comes with an ankle cuff) and then the waist leash separately. Easy to swap them around but I now have three ankle cuffs that I don’t need. I have a Crow Hailey also but prefer leashlok.

Bob
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: PonoBill on September 08, 2019, 02:27:55 PM
I like the Leashlok belt, but I had the velcro pull open on me while I was getting worked in a big set. I think I didn't press it firmly closed--too excited to get out into some very pretty surf--but I've added a click buckle to mine. I also recommend as stout a leash as you can get or make, you can't really minimize the pull on a waist leash like you can by streamlining yourself with an ankle leash.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: supnsurf on September 08, 2019, 04:30:41 PM
Cool, thanks I checked the leashlok site . Do you guys use the straight or coiled leash with the waist set up ?  thx
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Luc Benac on September 08, 2019, 05:07:07 PM
The one I use is actually called the Monster Coild and teh Downwinder but should ebc alled that because that is what it has been designed for by DJ.
Some coil by the waist and then some straight plus a couple more useful details:
https://shop.balin.com.au/collections/01-sup-leashes/products/01-supac (https://shop.balin.com.au/collections/01-sup-leashes/products/01-supac)
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Badger on September 08, 2019, 06:35:06 PM
Coiled is just asking for a tangled mess at some point IMO.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: TallDude on September 08, 2019, 07:27:51 PM
+1 No matter how you attach it, in the surf a coiled leash is dangerous. I've had a few bad surfing experiences that were caused directly by a coiled leash. I'd be better off with no leash than a coiled leash in the surf. I use them on my race / distance boards only.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Dwight (DW) on September 09, 2019, 02:48:41 AM
Coils tangle and self knot when they drag in the water behind you, bouncing along, and getting caught up in the whitewater, bouncing even harder.

BUT, with a waist leash, and because a foiler always stands in the middle of a board,  the coil never touches the water while surfing, so they do work for foiling.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Area 10 on September 09, 2019, 02:51:44 AM
The one I use is actually called the Monster Coild and teh Downwinder but should ebc alled that because that is what it has been designed for by DJ.
Some coil by the waist and then some straight plus a couple more useful details:
https://shop.balin.com.au/collections/01-sup-leashes/products/01-supac (https://shop.balin.com.au/collections/01-sup-leashes/products/01-supac)
Yeah the Balin Monster is the best coiled leash IMO. DJ did a good job there. It’s akso good that the knee/calf cuff has soft neoprene edges: I tried a DaKine coupled leash recently and because the cordura-type material extended to the edges of the cuff, it rubbed against the skin and left me with red welts. Don’t the people who design these leashes actually try them before they put them into production? The Balin Monster is so good because it was designed by someone who actually SUPs.

I use the Balin Minster with an ION waist belt for downwinding.

But I also always use straight leashes in the surf, unless it is really tiny and I know I won’t be falling.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Badger on September 09, 2019, 04:29:40 AM
Coiled leashes often get tangled after a wipeout on a wave. The turbulence of the water twists the cord during recoil and can take quite a while to untangle. If you're caught inside and the knot gets pulled tight, you might have to fix it on shore.

Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: JEG on September 09, 2019, 02:47:24 PM
waist leash with the coil is good for 14ft board and dw foil. I wouldn't use waist leash in the surf because of its a hazard. Also, knee leash is annoying when the connection joint swivel between the back of your knee when you are trying to knee paddle because of your getting thrown around by current and chop/waves. Ankle leash is imo the best for surf either straight or coil but I would avoid coil leash on big days surf.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: blueplanetsurf on October 31, 2022, 12:01:08 PM
This is the latest iteration of our retracting foil waist leash

https://youtu.be/qFClYTHenX0
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: PonoBill on November 01, 2022, 01:17:14 PM
I use the Blue Planet leash retractor connected to an NSI waist leash that is permanently attached to my impact vest. That forces me to wear the vest which I'm otherwise tempted to skip. I made my own extension with tube webbing and a shock cord. It looks a lot like the Blue Planet extension but the end loops are made from 600 pound Spectra line.

I don't like plastic buckles no matter how they are rated. If one tang breaks off there's no holding power. I modified the NSI leash to use a stainless steel reversing loop and velcro. I'm going to add a little buckle to keep the velcro down.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Dontsink on November 02, 2022, 12:37:02 AM
I modified the NSI leash to use a stainless steel reversing loop and velcro. I'm going to add a little buckle to keep the velcro down.

If your velcro is opening on big spills it might be because the "end" is too thick.
If the belt strap ends but the velcro continues an inch or so it will hold closed much better.
A pull tab on the end of the strap part will still allow for 1 pull release, provided it passes well through the buckle.Easier to just see it but i cannot take pics now.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: Beasho on November 02, 2022, 09:08:28 AM
This is the latest iteration of our retracting foil waist leash
https://youtu.be/qFClYTHenX0
This is worth a repost on the next page.  Great device and video as usual.  I will need to get one for my Ding-a-Ling.
Title: Re: waist leash
Post by: PonoBill on November 02, 2022, 10:40:30 AM

If your velcro is opening on big spills it might be because the "end" is too thick.
If the belt strap ends but the velcro continues an inch or so it will hold closed much better.
A pull tab on the end of the strap part will still allow for 1 pull release, provided it passes well through the buckle.Easier to just see it but i cannot take pics now.

Clever idea. I should have figured this out, I accidentally tried something like this making straps for my fake booms. I use two pieces of velcro sewn back to back. I screwed up on the length and had about an inch more hook than loop. The resultant strap was difficult to remove, but somehow the light didn't go on.
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