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Title: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: soepkip on July 27, 2019, 11:53:18 PM
How much wind do you need to go upwind when the wind drops when you are on a 5m2 Duotone?

Especially important if the wind is offshore....
Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: Dwight (DW) on July 28, 2019, 03:17:54 AM
With a foil under your board, going up wind in near nothing is easy, even when not on foil. Do it everyday on a windfoil.

Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: Julie_Scheyer on July 28, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
With a hydrofoil foil you can pump in no wind.  Not sure I see the appeal :)

On the the 5m Ken and I can go upwind or downwind in 10-15mph.  The problem in Maui is we don’t have as consistent wind, so if we go out in 10-15mph, we can have lows at zero.  If you are at a more consistent place then it will be easier.   It also depends a lot on your hydrofoil skills and setup. 
Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: soepkip on July 28, 2019, 11:46:21 PM
As a total beginner with the windwing I had a very hard time getting back in offshore wind that dropped to 0-2 knots, the angle of the wind was also shifting all the time

I just didn't know how to hold the wing , I am sure I would have made it with the same size windsurf sail( my board has a mastfoot insert)
Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: Surfside on July 29, 2019, 06:51:59 AM
Gosh, the only thing that comes to mind when it drops that low is to start prone paddling.

Thinking of adding a forward track on an old sup foil board to create a dagger board effect for those light days.
Don't know if it'll work.


Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: Julie_Scheyer on July 29, 2019, 12:34:38 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BzBo7X5nWEV/?igshid=1rw2tf59ww14k

Set boom on end of board hold it vertical like a boat spinnaker
Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: novaboy on July 29, 2019, 04:03:03 PM
I was out for the first time on my Sling Wing today. No foil, using my 9’5 JL Striker with a 10” noserider fin. No way was I staying upwind in less than 10kts. Could be my less than stellar technique.

Plan is to get decent with the Wing, and then give this foiling thing a try, and then put the two of them together.

I did the paddle of shame back upwind. Been a very longtime since I had to do that. Learning a new sport at 50 is fun. LOL

Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: PonoBill on July 29, 2019, 08:35:55 PM
Today I went out at Mosier (Rock Creek Park) and got up on my M200 right away. I wasn't able to stay up all the way across, but when I came down I didn't crash until I almost reached the Washington side. With all the screwing around I was quite a ways downwind, so I made an effort to go upwind on the way back to the Oregon side. That's a starboard tack for me, so I wasn't in my comfort zone for foiling, but I managed to get up a little bit, no pumping for height, and stay on the foil for a long way. When I finally crashed I realized I was about half a mile upwind of the launch. I was just concentrating on holding the foil a bit above the water and somehow wound up going upwind like crazy.

Of course the wind was about 20 with gusts to 25, but still...  Upwind. Foiling switchfoot. Yay.
Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: soepkip on July 30, 2019, 01:41:21 AM
Can you go upwind like this?
Only downwind I think......It is a big deal for me, we have 90 degrees offshore wind a lot in summer.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzBo7X5nWEV/?igshid=1rw2tf59ww14k

Set boom on end of board hold it vertical like a boat spinnaker

Title: Re: Going upwind when the wind drops?
Post by: Julie_Scheyer on July 30, 2019, 01:51:32 AM
Probably not worth the anxiety to go out in offshore conditions.  If you have a big enough board and hydrofoil it’s different. That was a 60L Board 5ft board. 
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