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Title: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Paddle-Plappe on March 27, 2009, 09:59:18 AM
THose guy gotta storm in da brain!
(http://www.gongsup.com/local/cache-vignettes/L690xH460/090321GONGSUP1048-2-0c8a2.jpg)
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: ian on March 27, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
just to add to this thread,this fella has a clip for his paddle on his shorts, he clips the paddle to himself then prone paddles his shortboard until he's riding the wave when he then unclips the paddle and surfs like a paddleboarder.least i think thats whats happening. :-\

http://www.gongsup.com/Real-Paddlesurf.html?lang=fr
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Paddle-Plappe on March 27, 2009, 11:35:49 AM
Yes Ian! You've got it! first post, first point, welldone!  :D
(http://www.gongsup.com/local/cache-vignettes/L750xH500/080823GONGSUP0130-82f91.jpg)
Don't ya think this board is too small for da paddle?
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tom on March 27, 2009, 01:16:29 PM
just to add to this thread,this fella has a clip for his paddle on his shorts, he clips the paddle to himself then prone paddles his shortboard until he's riding the wave when he then unclips the paddle and surfs like a paddleboarder.least i think thats whats happening. :-\

http://www.gongsup.com/Real-Paddlesurf.html?lang=fr

A couple of times when I've been SUPing my normal spot, while paddleing back to the line up, I've handed off my paddle off to a friend who was up and surfing on a short board. Really pretty fun for him.
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: noa on March 28, 2009, 04:38:29 AM
interesting concept which alows a good combination of both sports. i still prefer the idea of knee paddling like Blane used to do back in the day. you can still use smaller boards when knee paddling (although not as small as prone paddling) and get the advantage of the paddle the whole time. i believe this style could gain in popularity.
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tunico Lage on March 29, 2009, 08:30:04 PM
just to add to this thread,this fella has a clip for his paddle on his shorts, he clips the paddle to himself then prone paddles his shortboard until he's riding the wave when he then unclips the paddle and surfs like a paddleboarder.least i think thats whats happening. :-\

http://www.gongsup.com/Real-Paddlesurf.html?lang=fr

The photos are nice but...I really don't get it...the paddle only gets on the way while doing short board moves. The only use would be to paddle to pass a fat section on the wave were a shortboard would sink. Any other use?
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on March 30, 2009, 08:51:43 AM
The photos are nice but...I really don't get it...The only use would be to paddle to pass a fat section on the wave were a shortboard would sink. Any other use?

I did this idea 2 years ago with a longboard & a shortboard and found some "advantages & disadvantages. .

With a short board I found myself fumbling around with trying put in a stroke. You see while taking off on a wave your already at the peak.......you prone paddle, stand up, read the section of the wave, and trying to get your paddle and put in a stroke ALL at the same time..........that was hard for me.

Also the board has so much speed that it's hard to put in a stroke. And like you said Tunico Lage "the paddle only gets on the way while doing short board moves".

But there's an advantage to a clip......... :)
On a longboard since you can (prone) paddle and get on it early you'll be able to stand, un-clip, and still be able to read the section or before it breaks. You'll be able to power into turns alot faster, harder, and tighter then normal.....due to the paddle advantage.

Doing this with a long board is fun and when your done with the wave, clip it back to your shorts and prone paddle back out....

Now there's a disadvantage.......... :(
If you turtle or duck dive threw heavy white water......make sure that you stay in control. If you get thrown back due to heavy white water......you'll be throw into your paddle. And if you get hit in the head......well it could turn ugly, not mention that you could also get tangle up with your leash..........but all you "leash-less" longboarders need not worry about that.

There you go! This is my take on a clip based off my experience.....oh I forgot to mention it's also GOOD for you SUP'er too. If you need to paddle back out with your SUB and its to windy or a bit to much to bear while paddling out to the line up, just clip, and prone your way out.

And this one time my leash broke so I had to swim for my board, I clipped the paddle to my shorts and swam in. That really came in handy.

Anyway hope this was helpful......Just putting in my 2cents & sharing my Mana'o........Mahalo!!!

Aloha........Sam
P.S. Does anyone want to see a vid on how I did this......Longboard only
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Bolt Upright on March 30, 2009, 09:07:06 AM
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P.S. Does anyone want to see a vid on how I did this......Longboard only
Yep,
I like see

Randy
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Paddle-Plappe on March 30, 2009, 10:22:05 AM
Quote
P.S. Does anyone want to see a vid on how I did this......Longboard only
Yep,
I like see

Randy

+1
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on March 30, 2009, 02:36:37 PM
P.S. Does anyone want to see a vid on how I did this......Longboard only

Yep,
I like see
Randy

+1
Anyone else...............Majority rules.. ;D

Aloha......Sam
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: noa on March 30, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
roll the vid and stop teasing us. thank you Sam...
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on March 31, 2009, 07:27:30 AM
:D :D :D :D :D :D.........That's funny......
roll the vid and stop teasing us. thank you Sam...

OK...... give me sometime I need to go out and film. Then I'll post.

Aloha....Sam
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Piros on March 31, 2009, 09:52:35 PM
I think it's great backup for something like a leg rope failure for the long swim in or if you get caught inside it gives you 2 arms to deal with the board while you are getting belted.

I love the idea.
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tunico Lage on April 01, 2009, 09:02:04 AM
I think it's great backup for something like a leg rope failure for the long swim in or if you get caught inside it gives you 2 arms to deal with the board while you are getting belted.

I love the idea.

Now that's make sense to me! Anyone has pictures or a drawing of how to (safely) attach the paddle to yourself?
Maybe just a small elastic loop to quickly wrap around the paddle's handle...

And to take a beating, it's better to have the paddle attached to the side of the hip or the back?
I can imagine very bad things in large waves...
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Bob from Brazil on April 01, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
Now that's make sense to me! Anyone has pictures or a drawing of how to (safely) attach the paddle to yourself?
Maybe just a small elastic loop to quickly wrap around the paddle's handle...

And to take a beating, it's better to have the paddle attached to the side of the hip or the back?
I can imagine very bad things in large waves...

Tunico,

Check out the shortcut posted by Ian: http://www.gongsup.com/Real-Paddlesurf.html?lang=fr

[]'s,
Bob.
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tunico Lage on April 01, 2009, 10:02:13 AM
Bob,
Now I see it. Looks like a piece of PVC tubing that snaps around the paddle shaft.

Thanks.

P.S. Bob, were you at the Art In Surf event last weekend?
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Bob from Brazil on April 01, 2009, 10:06:37 AM
Yep! Tunico... I will upload some pics at www.supsurf.tv...
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on April 01, 2009, 11:01:14 PM
I think it's great backup for something like a leg rope failure for the long swim in or if you get caught inside it gives you 2 arms to deal with the board while you are getting belted.

I love the idea.
OK......Heres my idea I came up with 2 years ago. It's a buckle clip that detaches with a push of a button. And when your done.......clip it back.

             (http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n396/Sam21_21/000_0431.jpg)                 (http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n396/Sam21_21/000_0429.jpg)

I'll post a vid as soon as the wind dies down & I get a chance to get in the water.... :)

Aloha......Sam
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: noa on April 02, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
Hi Sam,
interesting to se your version of the paddle clip. so when you're up and riding with a shortor longboard, what advantages did you see from using the paddle ? you said it's better on longboards as it gets in the way with shortboards. Gong seams to use it on shorter boards. whats your opinion on it use ?
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tunico Lage on April 02, 2009, 10:29:15 AM
Humm...the idea of tumbling in a washing machine with a paddle attached to me body...somehow it doesn't feels right. And there is the board leash. I use a board leash.
Given enough repetitions it's a matter of time until board leash and paddle get together and do painfull things to me body...

I think I will let you guys do the testing  ;)
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on April 02, 2009, 11:38:47 PM
Hi Sam,
interesting to se your version of the paddle clip. so when you're up and riding with a short or longboard, what advantages did you see from using the paddle ?
Have you ever turned a "longboard" on its edge (I mean really on it edge) so hard that you fall on your face/back trying to make a bottom turn. Now imagine having a paddle to brace your fall....you see with a paddle you'll be able to power into turns alot faster, harder, and tighter then normal.....

Now with a short board I found it hard to get the paddle in position to even put in a stroke. By the time I unclipped
the wave had already broke and if I did get a chance to unclip....then I couldn't keep up with the speed of the board. Now trying to transfer paddle from side to side only made things difficult, due to sharp/tight turns a short board already does. In all the paddle really was not that affected "to me".......Maybe if I had spent more time with it, then maybe my opinion would differ

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you said it's better on longboards as it gets in the way with shortboards. Gong seams to use it on shorter boards. whats your opinion on it use ?
Well Gong seems to have mastered it use. So I think Gongs opinion may differ from mine.

Aloha Sam
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on April 03, 2009, 08:31:53 AM
Aloha T. Lage,
Humm...the idea of tumbling in a washing machine with a paddle attached to me body...somehow it doesn't feels right. And there is the board leash. I use a board leash. Given enough repetitions it's a matter of time until board leash and paddle get together and do painful things to my body...
To be honest.....this will happen if you don't have control of your board. My only bad experience was when I duck dive and got thrown backward I landed on my paddle, then I got worked. The paddle hit the back of my head and I got tangle up with my leash and the next wave hit and made thing worse. So I broke away (un-cliped) the paddle, and needed to re-gather my thoughts on this idea........It was a mess :-\

Now if you "turn turtle"......THIS IS WORSE!!!
The paddle floats so it always stays buoyant. So when you flip your board the blade/paddle tends to get wrapped around your back or end's up perpendicular with your direction. But if your successful you'll need to reverse your turn or you'll fight with the paddle (that's now against your back) trying to complete your 360 spin!!!.......Now lets just say you get worked and lose control of your board........You'll be all messed up.

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I think I will let you guys do the testing  ;)
This is starting to bring back reasons why I never continued with this idea. I found more harm then good and other ways to deal with situations. Keep in mine I'm dealing with extreme condition that's way beyond others ability and surf breaks that's not as extreme.......

But what might not be good for ME doesn't mean its NOT good for other. My friend Kaipo was turned on to this idea years ago and till this day he's still swears by it. He uses it when he's SUP'in and if he loses his board.... he clips up to his shorts and swims.

Now there is some good to this idea but you'll never know unless you try it.....just sharing my "Mana'o"

Aloha......Sam
Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Tunico Lage on April 03, 2009, 09:57:38 AM
Thanks Sam for taking the time to share your experiences.
The two quotes bellow made me sure that this is not for me!

Aloha T. Lage,

...The paddle hit the back of my head and I got tangle up with my leash and the next wave hit and made thing worse........It was a mess :-\
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......Now lets just say you get worked and lose control of your board........You'll be all messed up.


Now, this one...
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...He uses it when he's SUP'in and if he loses his board.... he clips up to his shorts and swims.
...makes sense. It's like having a third hand to hold your paddle while you swim. And just that.

The many ways this sport is evolving...maybe the Gong crew is on to something...but for now my view is more "traditional": high flotation boards and stand up paddling. To use short boards/prone paddling and carriyng a paddle as a "tool" seems strange.

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But what might not be good for ME doesn't mean its NOT good for other
That's the point! While I'm here saying it's no good maybe someone is out there having mega fun with this concept.

Hugs,

Tunico

Title: Re: Gong's paddle clip
Post by: Sam Pa'e on April 14, 2009, 08:30:16 AM
roll the vid and stop teasing us. thank you Sam...
Ok noa the video is done no more teasing......LOL. Sorry it took a while, hope you guys enjoy

OK......Heres my idea I came up with 2 years ago. It's a buckle clip that detaches with a push of a button. And when your done.......clip it back.

             (http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n396/Sam21_21/000_0431.jpg)                 (http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n396/Sam21_21/000_0429.jpg)

I'll post a vid as soon as the wind dies down & I get a chance to get in the water.... :)
This clip needs to have some bugs worked out, but has it's potential for a new idea to SUP. Hmmmm ::)...LOL

Heres the link.....it's in my sessions.....enjoy!!
http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=2767.45

Aloha......Sam


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