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Stand Up Paddle => SUP General => Topic started by: RideTheGlide on June 11, 2019, 05:23:45 AM
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Season not off to a great start. A surfer in Ocean Isle this time.
https://www.wral.com/surfer-bitten-by-shark-off-ocean-isle-beach/18443466/
The 17 year old girl bitten a couple of weeks back lost her leg. Then there was that gator spotted on the beach at Topsail. This kind of stuff is not good for tourism.
I am still headed offshore this weekend...
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Ya, RTG... the east coast is getting sharky. You cannot top Creeks' 'GW feeding grounds' up north, but spooky is all over the place. This 300lb Bull was caught in Chesapeake Bay last summer. They are seen as far north as Annapolis ...for you Lululemon paddlers.
A kiting friend, just last week, doing a downwinder in the ocean saw a surf fisherman pull about a 5'er out. She figures it was a dogfish.
Jim
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This kind of stuff is not good for tourism.
That comment reads from a VERY popular movie. Ironically from this subject at hand.
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Ya, RTG... the east coast is getting sharky. You cannot top Creeks' 'GW feeding grounds' up north, but spooky is all over the place. This 300lb Bull was caught in Chesapeake Bay last summer. They are seen as far north as Annapolis ...for you Lululemon paddlers.
A kiting friend, just last week, doing a downwinder in the ocean saw a surf fisherman pull about a 5'er out. She figures it was a dogfish.
Jim
I don't know; NC has had the highest concentration of the tagged/tracked GWs recently. But they are not all that close to shore here. Lots of smaller coastal sharks; I caught a 3' shark off my SUP and have seen a few larger ones but they are still small enough that the 14' board seems to spook them.
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Are Bull Sharks "even" good to eat?
I've only had Mako, but stopped years ago in hopes of a mutual understanding. So far, so good...
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Are Bull Sharks "even" good to eat?
I've only had Mako, but stopped years ago in hopes of a mutual understanding. So far, so good...
Most sharks are good to eat with a major caveat about cleaning very quickly because they urinate through their skin. A lot of sharks are protected here (in NC). Pretty much all the large pelagic sharks are off limits, but you can keep any size of coastal sharks and I forget if there is even a limit on them. I release them. Sometimes I let them keep the hook and a few feet of line as a souvenir.
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Bean, That particular one was caught near the mouth of the Potomac in some sort of indiscriminate trap these folks call their 'tradition'. It's may have ended up in cat food.
"..in hopes of a mutual understanding. So far, so good..." Bravo!
Jim
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Are Bull Sharks "even" good to eat?
I've only had Mako, but stopped years ago in hopes of a mutual understanding. So far, so good...
Most sharks are good to eat with a major caveat about cleaning very quickly because they urinate through their skin. A lot of sharks are protected here (in NC). Pretty much all the large pelagic sharks are off limits, but you can keep any size of coastal sharks and I forget if there is even a limit on them. I release them. Sometimes I let them keep the hook and a few feet of line as a souvenir.
That seems a little cruel, right? Maybe keep the hook and line?
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Hey Spirit, on the face of it (cheesy pun intended) it does sound a little cruel, but in fact, the hook will usually rust it's way out pretty quickly. Maybe better than risking limbs and creating a larger exit wound.
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I generally use barbless hooks, but if you've got a hook buried deep then cutting the line is the easiest on the fish--so the marine biologists say. I've caught fish with fairly old hooks still embedded, but many more with old hook scars. In both cases the fish was fine and healthy when caught. I don't keep many of the fish I catch, mainly hatchery fish in fresh water (even if you're allowed to keep the wild ones) or specific salt water species that I particularly want to eat. I don't keep sharks, or Ulua--even Paipo. But if I see a moi I'll do everything I can to put it in a cooler. Ono are at risk too, if I haven't played them too long. Their skin actually gets hot if you don't get them in the cooler pretty quickly and then they tend to be chalky even if you're careful about not overcooking them.
Oh, wait, this is about shark bites. Never mind.
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I don't fish to often anymore, but when I do I usually use circle hooks. Especially for fish that are regulated like fluke, stripers, tuna, etc...
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Are Bull Sharks "even" good to eat?
I've only had Mako, but stopped years ago in hopes of a mutual understanding. So far, so good...
Most sharks are good to eat with a major caveat about cleaning very quickly because they urinate through their skin. A lot of sharks are protected here (in NC). Pretty much all the large pelagic sharks are off limits, but you can keep any size of coastal sharks and I forget if there is even a limit on them. I release them. Sometimes I let them keep the hook and a few feet of line as a souvenir.
That seems a little cruel, right? Maybe keep the hook and line?
I do not target sharks, but sometimes they take the bait I intend to catch something else with. If the shark is small enough to control and the shank of the hook is accessible, I remove the hook. Once they get a little size on them, it becomes very difficult to safely remove a hook. You can do more harm trying to subdue them than the hook will do. Studies indicate that fish released with embedded hooks have a pretty high survival rate. A lot of times they make the cut. When it gets close, swinging its head back and forth can bring the line across its mouth and the teeth cut it (typically use a flouro leader). Anyway, I don't do this just for grins.
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I don't fish to often anymore, but when I do I usually use circle hooks. Especially for fish that are regulated like fluke, stripers, tuna, etc...
When I use bait, it is usually a strip behind a jig; especially flounder fishing. I haven't seen jigs with circle hooks; I don't think they would work very well.
EDIT - Sometimes I do use small fish whole and maybe I should use circle hooks then. But they do reduce catch rate pretty substantially:
https://news.ncsu.edu/2012/03/wms-rudershausen-hooks/
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Hey Spirit, on the face of it (cheesy pun intended) it does sound a little cruel, but in fact, the hook will usually rust it's way out pretty quickly. Maybe better than risking limbs and creating a larger exit wound.
Right, I guess don’t give up an arm to retrieve the hook. 👍
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shark is particularly laden with mercury, other heavy metals and pcb's---shd be eaten only occasionally
keep in mind that these chems accumulate--ie whether shark tuna sword etc--the sum of all servings of all these fish is what one shd go by in assessing how much can be eaten
higher food chain=more toxins
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That's a tough one for me, unchecked I could eat tuna and salmon sahimi everyday.
Ironically, farm raised salmon has improved, go figure. But how do you really know what you're getting? Wholefoods seems to be making an effort...
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likewise, but this is no joke---and yes, there have been many studies that have proven that origin and even species of fish are often misrepresented
tempting for fish sellers to double the price of farmed salmon to that of wild alaska, where customers can't know the difference
i buy char more these days, bc they dont farm it, so it's got to be wild
1 eat lowest salt sardines i can find too--super oily fish (supposed helps with heart and circulatory health), low food chain so minimal toxins
otoh, there is a new industry of green fish farmers, where they are pitching that their fish is healthier than wild, and they pollute little--greenpoint fish market here in bklyn sources lots of this new fish, but the prices are laughable---eat there shop there--great place--the crudo is awesome if youre feeling rich
i love eating all swimming fish (allergic to shellfiish) -- gave up on fake veganism, in favor of pescatarianism
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That's my basic problem with Ulua--top of the food chain predator near an island that has vast amounts of ag runoff, and therefore lots of dinoflagellates that get eaten by the little reef fish and concentrated in the predators. Lots of friends of mine on Maui have Ciguatera, which never really goes away and gets much worse with subsequent exposure. There are plenty of natural toxins that get concentrated in predators, but since we've turned the oceans into a dump it makes sense to pay attention to what I eat.
Ahi generally tests fairly clean of both heavy metal and algae toxins. The pretty much only hunt in deep water and only take fast moving fish. That helps, Mahi too. My favorite fish--ono (whaoo) is a bit less selective, but I pretend it's fine.
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Actually, I read somewhere that past about 50 or so you can stop worrying quite so much about the metals if you have kept consumption at safe levels when younger. We'll die of something else before enough accumulates. Pleasant thought, that... :o
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Statistically, I would suppose that if you engage in wingsuit flying (for example), your chances of dying from metals/toxins might be pretty low...especially if you are over 50. ;D
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Statistically, I would suppose that if you engage in wingsuit flying (for example), your chances of dying from metals/toxins might be pretty low...especially if you are over 50. ;D
Or sharkbite. Probably several orders of magnitude.