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Title: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SUPdad on April 23, 2019, 06:52:26 PM
I think I need a new leash. A normal leash seems to get wrapped around the foil every once in a while.:o Iím not sure what to get as I believe coiled leash arenít generally recommended for surfing. Iíd prefer an ankle type. Any recommendations?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: clay on April 23, 2019, 07:32:26 PM
I tried most (all?) the leash suggestions and have decided on this:
For me full coil 8' leash and waist belt.  This keeps the leash away from my feet, my hooks, and the foil, and keeps the leash out of the water for zero drag.
Nobody that I know of sells a full coil waist leash.  So I buy the sticky bumps 8' full coil and attach that to a leash lock waist belt.  Also Boardmeetingusa has a 10' full coil with a handle built in, I have tried it in small waves and the handle works well for keeping good control of my foil rig at cowells.  Most leashes have swivels that are detachable and interchangeable at the ends.

Some folks say full coil have the potential for entrapment, as in getting fingers and toes decapitated.  I wear booties so this isn't an issue for me, and I find the waist leash keeps the coils away from my digits.  Also foiling in general is a smaller wave deal so strong pulls on the leash are probably unlikely.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: flkiter on April 23, 2019, 09:02:20 PM
I started with a coil leash the calf and it was killing my leg Esso I went with the blue planet waist leash on a reel. It's awesome and I should of done it sooner. It has a shock cord and static cord so a lot of the time if I fall, I can grab the static cord and keep the board from foiling away in a wave and it's right there so I can swim though a wave following the one I fell from. The reel leash works well and keeps any leash drag from happening. https://www.blueplanetsurf.com/retractable-foil-waist-leash-with-shock-cord.html
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SUPdad on April 23, 2019, 09:42:41 PM
Cool, thanks for the suggestions. Seems Stickybumps has discontinued their coil leashes but theyíre still available from various places. I found a 10í coil leash for dirt cheap so I ordered one to try. Iím more worried about the board coming back at me...some of those leashes seem pretty springy.

Thanks also for the BoardmeetingUSA recommendation!  I need to order one from my regular standup. That would come in handy, for sure.

Any other recommendations?
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: frenchfoiler on April 23, 2019, 09:57:42 PM
I use a surf leash comp kids 5'', super thin, ultra light, short enought so it doesn't get into the foil and it doesn't drag much while foiling.

Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SanoSlatchSup on April 23, 2019, 10:01:25 PM
I've used this one for the past six months, and have been very happy with it...

SBS 10' Coiled SUP Leash - GUARANTEED FOR LIFE - Premium Design for Flat & Open Water Stand Up Paddle Board (https://www.amazon.com/SBS-Coiled-SUP-Leash-GUARANTEED/dp/B0118QMOXK/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_6?crid=20UA3UCB0ELK7&keywords=santa+barbara+surf+leash&qid=1556081819&s=gateway&sprefix=santa+barbara+su%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-6-fkmrnull)

Can't beat the $17.95 price with a lifetime guarantee(? interesting)....and have to say, it is as comfortable of a leash as I've ever worn.


Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: eastbound on April 24, 2019, 05:20:01 AM
http://www.leashlokhawaii.com

love these waistleashes--i used a straight leash, but they have all types

only had one break, right at the connection to the belt, but that leash had been seriously repeatedly worked

a pissed off proner once asked "is that a tampon string?" -- i actually laughed and gave him a little hand clap--funny.....

then i grabbed a sweet wave!
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SUPdad on April 26, 2019, 08:01:59 PM
Thanks, guys...all great suggestions!  Are there any other leashes that float aside from the Dakine Superlite? 
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: flkiter on April 26, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Drill a hole in some wine corks and slide them onto leash.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: supnorte on April 27, 2019, 11:47:18 AM
I'm using a SIC Hydrid Leash: half is coil and half is straight and it's for the ankle. Extended is 6' long. Works perfectly: no drag and it doesn't get tangled on the foil.

https://sicmaui.com/hybrid-coil-straight-6.html
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: mrbig on April 27, 2019, 12:44:01 PM
Leashlok waist belt with Baiin Monster Coil for both surf and fw. Never step on it. Never breaks. And has NOT snapped back..
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: Chan on April 27, 2019, 01:35:02 PM
Anyone tried these with a wing foil?
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: PonoBill on April 27, 2019, 07:59:17 PM
Wing foil leashes are a strangulation hazard. I got tied up to my board leash so my wrist was pinned to the tail of the board. Took a while to get that undone since i was getting worked while I was undoing the macrame.

I generally use a coil leash for my foil board even though I'm the guy that said coiled leashes will poke your eye out. They will, but my other solution, a 8' belt leash with a loop tucked in the belt tends to get loose and bounce along the surface like a ski rope. In general, foilboards don't go far or pull hard, so I get away with it. In general. And then there's the times that doesn't work and I feel like I'm being towed by my ankle behind a jetski.

I haven't found a great solution yet, but I'll keep working on it.

The wing thing demands some refinement since two leashes whipping around eash other is just a disaster waiting to happen. Brett Lickle got his wing leash wrapped around his neck. If the wing gets away from you and starts flying it's a fairly dynamic situation--the wing porpoises wildly and can drag you around quite smartly. This needs a bit of work.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: Admin on April 28, 2019, 05:09:32 AM
Wing foil leashes are a strangulation hazard. I got tied up to my board leash so my wrist was pinned to the tail of the board. Took a while to get that undone since i was getting worked while I was undoing the macrame.

I generally use a coil leash for my foil board even though I'm the guy that said coiled leashes will poke your eye out. They will, but my other solution, a 8' belt leash with a loop tucked in the belt tends to get loose and bounce along the surface like a ski rope. In general, foilboards don't go far or pull hard, so I get away with it. In general. And then there's the times that doesn't work and I feel like I'm being towed by my ankle behind a jetski.

I haven't found a great solution yet, but I'll keep working on it.

The wing thing demands some refinement since two leashes whipping around eash other is just a disaster waiting to happen. Brett Lickle got his wing leash wrapped around his neck. If the wing gets away from you and starts flying it's a fairly dynamic situation--the wing porpoises wildly and can drag you around quite smartly. This needs a bit of work.

I am wondering if the single board to to wing leash is not cleaner.  Is there a leash attachment position on the kite and board that would keep the wing from throwing the board?  I guess you would not want to fall downwind of the board/foil but that seems true in any leash configuration.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: FRP on April 28, 2019, 02:21:23 PM


I am wondering if the single board to to wing leash is not cleaner.  Is there a leash attachment position on the kite and board that would keep the wing from throwing the board?  I guess you would not want to fall downwind of the board/foil but that seems true in any leash configuration.
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I am not a foiler. Two leashes sounds like trouble. What about one leash, wing to board that runs through a carabiner on a waist belt?

Bob

Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: WindJunkie on April 28, 2019, 03:35:56 PM
Right now my go to leash is a 6 foot floating dakine ankle leash.  I wish it were a little longer because I can't get as far away from the board as I would like when I crash.  I got knocked in the head once by my board.  In overhead conditions I use a 10 foot leash with some foam golf balls on the leash to help it float and prevent tangling.  I stuff the leash in my shorts to keep it from dragging and hitting the board when pumping.  I tried a coiled leash but didn't like it because it would bounce on the board annoyingly.  Since you already have a leash you could try the foam balls first.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SUPdad on July 04, 2019, 07:43:18 PM
So Iíve tried the 10í coiled leash. Never had the board fly back at me but I did have it come back slowly towards my head and contact my nose on two occasions. Low speed contact but it did hurt. :o

Tried the ghetto version of the foam golf balls/corks. Wrapped a piece of foam sheet, the kind you often see used for packing stuff, with tie wraps. This works but it slides on the leash and creates a surprising amount of drag. Havenít found the idea position for it yet. It does help but it sure would be nice if someone came out with a 9í or so floating leash. The 6í Dakine is too short for comfort for me.
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: toolate on July 06, 2019, 08:12:25 PM
just tie a piece of velcro to your leash midway and stitch the other side of the vecro tape to your boardshorts...voila.

Works like a charm. Never lost my shorts once yet
Title: Re: Leash recommendations?
Post by: SUPdad on July 07, 2019, 12:38:31 AM
 ;D
Great idea!