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General => Random => Topic started by: TallDude on March 27, 2019, 12:28:38 PM
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The other night some friends of mine were having a discussing about Pandora, XM Radio, and Spotify metric's. We were having some drinks listening to my Pandora which was on my Steely Dan station. Interestingly it only played one Steely Dan song in about an hour. One of my friend says" Spotify metrics are way better than Pandora!" Another friend said he loves his XM Radio in his car. I mentioned this station broadcast from just across the boarder in Mexico. It covers San Diego County and very South Orange County. (105.7 FM) It has a very strange existence. It used to be an 80's hits station with DJ's and give-away's. One day the DJ's, ad's, and English commercials were gone. Now it's Spanish only commercials (política) and then super random B sides and 80's hits mixed with never heard extended plays. Everyone I turn on to it, just loves it.
Anyway, my Spotify advocate friend laughed at me even listening to FM. I am going to put an FM receiver in my office just because of this station I found.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/geneely/2018/03/30/radios-big-challenge-finding-its-way-forward-in-this-new-digital-world/#174976605a26
What is your music source?
Is FM dying?
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YouTube is still the big dog for music streaming. https://mashable.com/article/youtube-47-percent-of-on-demand-music-streaming/#yQW0lzcFskqb
That is my # one at home. Spotify on the road. I haven't listed to radio in a long while.
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Haven't really listened to radio in over a decade, same as TV. I get reminded why every time I rent a car
and someone leaves the radio on, commercials. Pandora does the trick for me.
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Anything that lets me skip crappy songs. That’s not FM or SiriusXM.
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Here's a little insight too what happened to the 105.7 'MAX FM' station I've been listening to. That's a boat load of money they pay monthly!
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2018/dec/14/mexicans-cut-max-1057/#
https://youtu.be/eyCEexG9xjw
If Surfline streamed music and allowed you to setup your favorite surf break web cams on a playlist. I'd pay for that! And stream it all day 8)
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Most of the time I listen to my own music on my iPod. When I’m not listening to that, I’ll sometimes listen to Sports Talk radio, but most of that gets boring pretty quickly.
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I have developed a strong intolerance for commercials. 99% of music I listen to is commercial free, mostly my own, Sirius, and Amazon Music. We stream most of our TV watching (lots of Netflix and Amazon Prime) and when we do watch commercial TV, I will mute the commercials. Thru my Roku, I can steam the ABC National News and they broadcast very few commercials that are shortened.
We've found that the less you watch commercials, the more annoying they become when you are forced to watch them. I guess I just don't like anyone telling me what I need to buy. This might be why I rarely watch opinionated news programs, I don't need anyone telling me what to believe. Even though I've been called a liberal, I have the same intolerance for CNN as I do for Fox news.
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Rock music died at the end of the last rock genre which was Grunge. Nothing new has happened since the turn of the century. Just a rehashing of everything that was done before. We might hear a good new song now and then, but there is no real music scene to go along with it.
Every decade before the turn of the century had many music genres and a scene to go with them. Each genre had a name and you felt like you were a part of that worldwide scene. Some genres even came back a second or third time and were reborn with a totally new sound. It was radio that spread the word. We chose the station that played our music. For me that was mostly college radio which today is pretty lame compared to what it was in the 70', 80's and 90's.
So, not only is radio dying, rock is dead, at least until a new genre is discovered. I think 50 years is a pretty good run.
I remember when Wall of Voodoo came out with Mexican Radio. Those were good times.
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In the late 1970's and early 1980's out of Mexico
listening in San Diego and Orange County, Ca
it was 91x FM and its sister station, Mighty 690 AM
;D
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I used to love 91X! Reggae Revolution with Native Wayne!
I consume a lot of AM talk radio (KFI Junkie) usually via "I heart Radio" but otherwise it's podcasts, XM and Spotify
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I can't remember the last time I had the radio on. It's Apple Music, MP3's or downloaded podcasts.
The only good FM station here is the US Military AFN, and it plays the "news" at the top of every hour. Sometimes get "caught out," and accidentally hear... Well, you get the picture ;-)
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FM all the way! Classical, Jazz, Sports Tawk, Classic Hits - mostly 80's. College stations play the new stuff, and NPR with blues.
Boston, Providence decent variety.
Free, free, free!
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In that Forbes article it states that most of the FM listeners are "hairy-eared listeners" and "Pink-eared listeners" are generally streamers. Hey hey hey..I'm an FM listener and I resemble that remark :-[
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+1 TallOne! I noticed in the new poll there are 6 of us who use FM and CD.
I proudly toss my anonymity away!
Who da other five?🤣
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I've burnt a lot of my CDs to MP3 and put the. On a thumb drive that I listen to in my car.
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FM - In Seattle there are three excellent non - commercial stations... as in no commercials ... I like never knowing what you might hear next. But I love it if, when I travel, the rental car has SeriusXM...
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Audible books. Yeah, geek. I haven't heard any music worthy of real attention since 1980. Current rock is sad jingles. I did, however, just watch "Across the Universe" on Netflix. That was fun. Would have been better if the lead actor had a better voice, but still good.
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When driving alone: silence, audible books, or iPod, due to ability to shatter windows:
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,14932.msg133015.html#msg133015 (https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,14932.msg133015.html#msg133015)
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There is still good rock. Two from my playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJUCSSEgPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaeWss85_vg
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Thanks, I enjoyed the Demobs. Very 90's sounding. Reminds me of Blur.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbBvKaM6sk
Rock is still dead though.
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Old school FM. Preferably college radio, a local basque station EITB, or surfFM out of Hossegor. Commercials are either low key or non existent on these and I will hear mostly good music that is totally new to me.
Or a national French talk radio, France Inter, which could be compared to NPR.
On it I learned of the background to a current, and for me, terribly annoying new way of speaking, the voice fry.
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What I like about terrestrial radio (whether radio signal or streaming) is that I don't have to get involved in the "playlist" and can focus on whatever it is that I'm doing. Local radio is also still a pretty good source for local happenings.
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...and YouTube is killer because you can cheat in learning the riffs. These guys are very talented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZvn7ZiC7g
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
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TD, You didn't provide: 'None of the above'... I cannot hear music correctly, for the most part, so much is simply annoying, repetitive. Besides, after Merry Claytons 'Gimme Shelter', it was all downhill.
More importantly, FM and soon broadcast TV are dead to me because of podcasts. Rightwing/Leftwing, Medical, History, Space... I want to learn real information from the source, not networks that re-package and massage information for advertisers seeking targeted demographics. I do not need a cure for Peyronie's disease!
Jim
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I've been ignoring the media news for over twenty years now. Nothing ever happens on the news that is in any way useful. All that violence, negativity and general insanity they report on is unhealthy to watch.
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TD, You didn't provide: 'None of the above'... I cannot hear music correctly, for the most part, so much is simply annoying, repetitive. Besides, after Merry Claytons 'Gimme Shelter', it was all downhill.
More importantly, FM and soon broadcast TV are dead to me because of podcasts. Rightwing/Leftwing, Medical, History, Space... I want to learn real information from the source, not networks that re-package and massage information for advertisers seeking targeted demographics. I do not need a cure for Peyronie's disease!
Jim
It's a good thing you've straightened that out. ;)
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I've been ignoring the media news for over twenty years now. Nothing ever happens on the news that is in any way useful. All that violence, negativity and general insanity they report on is unhealthy to watch.
Well, if you've been ignoring it, you probably aren't aware that recently it's all turned around totally. All the stories are positive, and everyone involved stays civil and polite. Nothing like a few years ago. Most of the fact-checking bureaus have shut down, too. They just ran out of things to do, since reporting has become so accurate.
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I only listen to FM radio when I travel. It is interesting to hear what is going on in other places. Just another way to get a small slice of the culture.
There is still good rock music. Mainstream not so much but there is a lot of listenable stuff out there depending on your tastes. These guys typically play with 2 but every now and then 3 or 4 members.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S79umAU1ij4
Alt J only has 3 members in it, not sure what classifies as rock anymore though.
Dinosaur Jr is still going.
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...and YouTube is killer because you can cheat in learning the riffs. These guys are very talented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZvn7ZiC7g
Learning riffs from You Tube isn't cheating, it's an great resource for that, saves so much time.
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...and YouTube is killer because you can cheat in learning the riffs. These guys are very talented.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFZvn7ZiC7g
Learning riffs from You Tube isn't cheating, it's an great resource for that, saves so much time.
For sure. Tab stuff is fine but it registers for me when I watch someone play it. Plus, being able to slow it way down on YouTube is so helpful.
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Don't want to derail the thread. I've been playing for quite a while. I try and work them out by ear first then might go to you tube for confirmation. I'll play along with the pros too, good for the timing. Have fun.
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Don't want to derail the thread.
We are talking about Modulating on different Frequencies, so it's on the same rail ;)
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Rock music died at the end of the last rock genre which was Grunge. Nothing new has happened since the turn of the century. Just a rehashing of everything that was done before. We might hear a good new song now and then, but there is no real music scene to go along with it.
Every decade before the turn of the century had many music genres and a scene to go with them. Each genre had a name and you felt like you were a part of that worldwide scene. Some genres even came back a second or third time and were reborn with a totally new sound. It was radio that spread the word. We chose the station that played our music. For me that was mostly college radio which today is pretty lame compared to what it was in the 70', 80's and 90's.
So, not only is radio dying, rock is dead, at least until a new genre is discovered. I think 50 years is a pretty good run.
I remember when Wall of Voodoo came out with Mexican Radio. Those were good times.
If you like MC5, you'll like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v820WfYBkew
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In my truck since I don't have any streaming or satellite, I pretty much listen to KPBS (San Diego's NPR affiliate), or our local jazz station Jazz 88.3 (real jazz, not lame smooth jazz). At work Pandora, Spotify or I'll stream Seattle listener supported KPBS (www.kpbs.org). Yes I think terrestrial radio in general is dying with some exceptions.
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
You're in San Diego right? There's our own Schizophonics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRiCf2zw_o
OK two men and one women.
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Regardless of what medium you're using, any one who says there's no good new rock music is not looking hard enough. And yes that includes three piece bands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrMacbbLxuc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQqQ9kfZUn0
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In my truck since I don't have any streaming or satellite, I pretty much listen to KPBS (San Diego's NPR affiliate), or our local jazz station Jazz 88.3 (real jazz, not lame smooth jazz). At work Pandora, Spotify or I'll stream Seattle listener supported KPBS (www.kpbs.org). Yes I think terrestrial radio in general is dying with some exceptions.
88.3 doesn't quite reach San Clemente. I listen to 88.1 KJazz from CSLB. It used to be all straight ahead and Latin Jazz, but now they mix in a little mush. Check out 105.7 in SD. It gets really good at times. You never know what they are going to play. Some funky auto play metric. The commercials are short and in Spanish.
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Rock is far from dead and it's only expanded. The internet and it's evolution changed everything.
One of the best bands to ever do it, didn't gain widespread notoriety until around 2004, and The Black Keys are about to start selling out stadiums again on tour with Modest Mouse this year, and Modest Mouse in their own right are an alt/Indie rock band who are huge and didn't have mainstream notoriety until post 90s.
There are too many rock-altrock,indie rock, alt-metal-nu metal (that is closer to hard rock) that have come out and made huge waves over the last 10-15 years to name.
Queens of the Stoneage were big time post 90s, well into the 2000s, as were multiple spin off projects such as Them Crooked Vultures, Eagles of Death Metal, etc. The Foo Fighters are still going, and bands such as the White Stripes had their most popular albums around 2006-2007 and disbanded after 2010, so I don't buy into the rock dying in the 90s. The genre just diversified.
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Check out 105.7 in SD. It gets really good at times. You never know what they are going to play. Some funky auto play metric. The commercials are short and in Spanish.
I looked them up. Apparently they are down for the moment.
"For the last few months, Max programming has only been available online and on our mobile app. Unfortunately, we have ceased operations for the time being. We can’t thank you enough for bearing with us through this ordeal. From day one, our goal has always been to get back on the air. That remains our hope. We appreciate you and will continue to make every effort possible to get back on the air in the near future. "
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Check out 105.7 in SD. It gets really good at times. You never know what they are going to play. Some funky auto play metric. The commercials are short and in Spanish.
I looked them up. Apparently they are down for the moment.
"For the last few months, Max programming has only been available online and on our mobile app. Unfortunately, we have ceased operations for the time being. We can’t thank you enough for bearing with us through this ordeal. From day one, our goal has always been to get back on the air. That remains our hope. We appreciate you and will continue to make every effort possible to get back on the air in the near future. "
It's what is being broadcast over the airwaves. The station has no name. Just on 105.7 fm
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I agree there is great music around. It's just not new. The schizophrenics are awesome. They sound just like MC5 in the late 60's. We might as well call it retro rock.
In order for rock to stay alive, it needs to keep re-inventing itself. The second half of the 20th century saw a new type of rock and roll appear every few years. Sometimes these new genres even overlapped each other. This has not happened in the last 20 years. Therefore rock is dead, or at least dormant while everyone keeps writing and playing the same old stuff that has been done before.
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
You're in San Diego right? There's our own Schizophonics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRiCf2zw_o
OK two men and one women.
Maybe someone else as well playing the lead guitar solos (or recorded?)
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
Originally from Poway, great song!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
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More 3 piece rock, irie style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5rLBlQcQw
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
You're in San Diego right? There's our own Schizophonics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRiCf2zw_o
OK two men and one women.
Maybe someone else as well playing the lead guitar solos (or recorded?)
Nah. Seen them many times. Pat can really jump around like a monkey and still play.
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
You're in San Diego right? There's our own Schizophonics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRiCf2zw_o
OK two men and one women.
Maybe someone else as well playing the lead guitar solos (or recorded?)
Nah. Seen them many times. Pat can really jump around like a monkey and still play.
Check out 2:47. Maybe I a missing something. I dig the band.
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Thanks for the Demob. I was just complaining that there aren't any 3 man rock bands any more (that I know of). I've always been a fan of Cream, James Gang, ZZ Top, Police, etc
You're in San Diego right? There's our own Schizophonics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwRiCf2zw_o
OK two men and one women.
Maybe someone else as well playing the lead guitar solos (or recorded?)
Nah. Seen them many times. Pat can really jump around like a monkey and still play.
Check out 2:47. Maybe I a missing something. I dig the band.
He's using just his fret hand. He does that a lot.
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Cage has a new album. Black Keys have a new single and a tour as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM1S9S-Q2sU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JILfwu5AWIQ