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Title: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on October 19, 2018, 07:24:39 AM
I always thought I would get an injury from one of my sups. Instead, my latest injury is from......yard work.

On September 22nd, I was working on my yard to pick up the fallen leaves from my sweetgum tree since Fall has arrived. Long story short, I was walking along and stepped into a mole tunnel with my left foot sideways and it got wedged in the mole tunnel with my upper body still going forward. This caused my left knee to twist violently to the right.

Since my forward momentum was still in force, I couldn't get my left foot out of the mole tunnel fast enough and I started to fall. I put my arms out in front of my face since I was in a free fall face down and so I avoided a "face plant".

With my left foot stuck in the mole tunnel, my whole body was falling like a felled tree. Even though I avoided the face plant, both of my knees hit the ground. Unfortunately, the right inside of my left knee hit a semi exposed sweetgum tree root since sweetgum trees have shallow roots and some of them are exposed on the surface of the ground.

This particular tree root was hidden by the fallen leaves. When my left knee hit the root, it hurt.....LOTS! I thought I a broken my patella. I was lucky I didn't. The right inside of my left knee swelled up and in 5 days, the swelling in the knee went down, but not all the way down.

After almost 4 weeks of having a slightly swollen knee and having one spot on the knee feel tender and if pressed down upon, it gave me a burning sensation so I decided to call up my orthopedic surgeon who repaired my left and right shoulders. I suspected a torn meniscus.

When I finally saw my surgeon yesterday on the Oct 18th, after looking at my still slightly swollen right inside of my left knee, he asked me when this injury occurred. After telling him on September 22, he felt the spot on my knee where it was giving me a slight burning sensation when pressed upon.

He told me unofficially his diagnosis was a torn meniscus and he was 95% sure of his of that. He told me he was going to send me for a MRI which would confirm it and with the MRI, he could tell if there is any damage to my Medial Collateral ligament as well as any cartilage damage.

My MRI is scheduled for Nov 6th at 8:15 am in the morning. But my surgeon's PA told me to call the MRI place everday to see if they have any cancellations. If they do, I might be able to get my MRI done sooner in the cancelled appointment slot. Once my MRI is done and the results are sent to my surgeon which usually takes 24 hours of time, I will get a surgery date.

I suspect the surgery will be done on Nov 28th since my surgeon is a very popular orthopedic surgeon in the Woodlands Sports Medicine Center. Since he is very popular with a stellar reputation as an orthopedic surgeon, he performs surgeries every Wednesday from 7:00 am to 5:00 pm at the WSMC so this is why there is a long wait from an MRI result to a surgery date.

To keep the swelling down in my knee, he prescribed 120 tablets of Etodolac (500 mg per tablet) for me and I have to take two tablets twice a day. One tablet after breakfast and one tablet after supper (dinner). My surgeon also told me to "baby the knee" (stay off of it as much as possible) until I have my surgery.

BTW, the last time I took my 11'1" One World out for a leisurely flat water paddle was on Sept 21st. With the weather turning colder now; the water temperature is dropping and since I don't wear a wetsuit, with my present left knee injury, my sup paddling (flat water and surf) is over for the rest of 2018.

I just want to get my left knee surgically repaired so I can get back on the water with my sups during the last week of March or the first week of April in 2019 when the lake and beach water temperatures again returns to 66 degrees F which is my comfort zone since I don't wear a wetsuit.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: SlatchJim on October 19, 2018, 08:21:31 AM
Sorry to hear about the crash landing Nightwing.  I hope they can patch you up by next season. 

When I'm healthy, I take it for granted.  When I'm sick or injured, I'm totally consumed by my own pain.  Probably not alone in this mental state.

Time to get some landscaping help to keep you on the water more.  ;)
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: supthecreek on October 19, 2018, 11:48:06 AM
Heal fast Night Wing, sucks to be laid up!
I hope it all turns out well and your back strong and ready to go in March.

Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on October 19, 2018, 12:08:30 PM
@ SlatchJim

The left knee exam was easy. First, three bone x-rays with the knee in various positions. Then second, the physical knee exam. This is about the only part of the knee exam process I didn't care for.

My orthopedic surgeon, after first looking at my slightly swollen knee where the swelling hadn't gone down in 4 weeks of time, guessed it was a torn meniscus from the get go. When I told him where the burning sensation was on the right inside of my left knee, it was then when he started to bend my knee with his hands in different positions gently, this was the painful part of the exam.

My surgeon told depending on what the MRI shows, the repair job would either be arthroscopy or "the long cut". It really doesn't matter to me what procedure he has to perform.

The long cut needs more time to heal, but if I have to have the long cut, I'll rehab the left knee at the WSMC for a few weeks and then I'll rehab it at my home so I'll be ready for the last week of March or the first week in April of 2019 when I'm back on the water again with my sups.

As for the landscaping help, I told my wife I'm out of grass mowing duties until January of 2019 so she'll have to "take over this job" until then. Her answer to me was........................"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!"  :o

Our yard grass growth is starting to end with the advent of colder days and colder nights so my wife will only have to mow the grass for only two more times at the most before January of 2019. Our grass will start growing again in the second of week of February when the trees start to bud out. I told my wife, "The grass mowing will be good exercise for you".  ;D

Her answer to me was, "Don't push your luck or you're going to need more than left knee surgery".   ;)
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Wetstuff on October 19, 2018, 12:14:53 PM
Ooooo - too bad man.  That sounds like a first run on the first day of a vacation in the Alps injury*.  At least you were at home.  Plus, you're in Texas where I gather there are plenty of folks who have verbal powers; 'Heal!'  'Hope it's not too bad. 

Jim

*wudda'bin - if the first of May.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on October 19, 2018, 12:38:00 PM
Heal fast Night Wing, sucks to be laid up!
I hope it all turns out well and your back strong and ready to go in March.

I'm not really laid up. I can walk around without too much discomfort. My surgeon just wants to me stay off of my left leg to minimize the swelling to the right inside of the left knee during the daytime.

As long I "don't" pivot to the right or left to change directions with my left foot still on the ground, I'm okay. I just have to be aware at all times I've got a left knee problem right now and I have to remember to lift my left foot off the ground to change directions right or left.

And if I don't remember to lift my left foot off the ground to change directions, the right inside of my left knee lets me know about it "real quick".  :o  As they say, "PAIN.......is an excellent teacher".  ;)
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Bean on October 19, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
Pain is the best teacher for sure NW. Trouble is, the tuition is too damned high.  Best of luck!
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: eastbound on October 20, 2018, 04:59:42 AM
tough casll abpout risk vs work--saw wisdom in a pono post where he said he wont lift anything heavy anymore--why risk injury/loss of time surfing?--otoh i look at stones, whose work is part of his lifeblood, where id bet he doesnt let the occasional heavy lift interfere with progress--

work and activity sustains us, but downtime and rehab consume precious time

Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Wetstuff on October 20, 2018, 09:23:26 AM
Winger... Does the advertisement for the Meniscus show up on your page - just below the last entry? (dog chew stuff is there now - I don't know what that means?)  Admin has some new bots working for him.  I have to look at 'hot chicks' to see if Hooters pops up...?

Jim   
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: PonoBill on October 20, 2018, 09:26:57 AM
tough casll abpout risk vs work--saw wisdom in a pono post where he said he wont lift anything heavy anymore--why risk injury/loss of time surfing?--otoh i look at stones, whose work is part of his lifeblood, where id bet he doesnt let the occasional heavy lift interfere with progress--

work and activity sustains us, but downtime and rehab consume precious time

I think that was Creek--I lift heavy stuff all the time. I'm stupid about it.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on October 20, 2018, 09:02:21 PM
Winger... Does the advertisement for the Meniscus show up on your page - just below the last entry? (dog chew stuff is there now - I don't know what that means?)  Admin has some new bots working for him.

No advertisement for "Meniscus" anywhere. Since I run the 64 bit linux Mint 19 (Tara) Xfce distro, this is with my linux Adblock Latitude adblocker disabled for the Zone since I use the linux 64 bit Pale Moon browser.

What does show is an advertisement for "John Daugherty Realtors" in The Woodlands, Texas.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Wetstuff on October 21, 2018, 06:27:32 AM
...just underneath this post is a blue bar: "Recent Posts" ...the 'current one', for me, talks about a choice between 9mm, .40, or .45cal handguns.  Nice!   Add that with a promo for Perdue Pharma and you'll soon have enough vacant housing for those folks rushing the MEX border. 

Jim

Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: stoneaxe on October 21, 2018, 06:52:04 AM
That sucks...heal well. Knees are so damn tricky. I've hurt myself doing yard work far more than I have on a SUP.

That response from your wife sounds like something my wife would say.....probably all wives would say....;)

I lift big things and I put them down....not like I used to though.... :P. I have to be far more careful of my back these days. I can feel the compression in my lower back. I will say though that I've found ignoring the pain and pushing past it is the key to getting better....or at least the key to keeping moving..... ::)
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: eastbound on October 22, 2018, 08:29:08 AM
i am swamped with subaru ads----bc ive been shopping ofr a new subaru


we have a computer card key for the bathroom in the office building my biz is in--guy joked the other day that he'd been out late, so was drinking much coffee and pissing often---next thing he's swamped with ads for prostate meds.....
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on October 30, 2018, 07:10:33 PM
My MRI is scheduled for Nov 6th at 8:15 am in the morning. But my surgeon's PA told me to call the MRI place everyday to see if they have any cancellations. If they do, I might be able to get my MRI done sooner in the cancelled appointment slot. Once my MRI is done and the results are sent to my surgeon which usually takes 24 hours of time, I will get a surgery date.

Thought I would give an update from what I typed above in a previous message.

I have been calling the MRI place everyday at 5:00 pm hoping to get someone else's cancelled appointment. I got one for Nov 5th at 7:15 am, but I still kept calling even after I had the new one for Nov 5th.

Anyhow, I called today at 5:00 pm and I got lucky again. The MRI scheduling place told me they had another cancellation for Wed, Oct 31 at 2:30 pm. Looks like Halloween give me an early treat.  ;) After that, I will call the my surgeon's PA's phone later Wednesday afternoon to tell him I had the MRI done.

The MRI results should be back in my surgeon's office in 24 hours which is late Thursday afternoon. Hopefully, my surgeon will have had time during the end of his Thursday's working day to read the results.

Then on Friday, I'm hoping to get a phone call from the PA early Friday morning, before my surgeon's office opens before seeing patients, telling me what the MRI results showed and since I'm sure my left knee meniscus is torn since it still feels like it is, to set up a surgery date.

If I don't hear from my surgeon's office by Friday at 11:00 am, I'll call them. I need to stay on top of this.

 
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on November 02, 2018, 11:28:01 AM
I just received a call from my surgeon's office. Good news is, I didn't tear my meniscus. No cartilage damage either. However, looks like there is a little arthritis in the knee so when I twisted my left knee, it aggravated the arthritis in the knee.

So I'm due for some shot (or shots) in the knee on Tuesday, Nov 6th at 10:50 am and since the knee is still slightly swollen, if the knee is still slightly swollen when I see my surgeon on the 6th, he suspects some fluid in the knee and they will drain it off. So I'm hoping the slight swelling dissipates between now and the 6th where I won't have to have the knee drained.

Since I'm terrified of hypodermic needles, I'm not looking forward to the 6th.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on November 07, 2018, 09:48:03 AM
Another update.

Looks like my good news was a little premature. Saw my surgeon yesterday and the person who read the MRI on my left knee, who was "not" my orthopedic surgeon, missed something.

My surgeon showed me the results of the MRI and there is a slight anomaly in the meniscus. My surgeon explained to me that anomaly is a "partial tear" on the inside of the meniscus and not on the outside of the meniscus. The inside partial tear will not repair itself. It will slowly keep tearing until it reaches the outside of the meniscus.

I put a total of 28 hours of rehab on the knee from Friday afternoon until yesterday morning (Tuesday) at 9:00 am. Since I have 100% mobility in the left knee and only feel a little soreness when I do one specific exercise, I didn't have to get a needle in the joint.

Instead of 1000 MG's of etodolac (two, 500 MG tablets per day), to control any swelling, I am now supposed to take just one, 500 MB tablet and when I finish those tablets, to start putting on a prescription topical gel named, Diclofenac Sodium 1% as needed. When this gel no longer works, then I'll get a shot in the knee joint.

When this shot wears off and the pain returns, I'll get a second shot. Eventually, the partial tear will come to the outside of the meniscus and then my insurance companies will allow the scope procedure to repair the meniscus.

In cases like mine, some insurance companies like to see "small steps leading up to surgeries". Since my left knee was feeling real good this morning, I took my 11'1" One World sup out on our subdivision's largest private lake for a "one hour flat water paddling session". The water was 75 degrees F and the air temperature was 83 degrees F. My spirits were up and it felt great doing this paddling session since I had been off the water for 6 weeks. My left knee felt no pain either.

A cold front is coming in tomorrow, Thursday with rain and lots of wind. Friday's high temperature is only going to be 57 degrees F with Saturday's morning's low temperature of 45 degrees F. Since I don't wear a wetsuit, this is why I wanted to get in today's flat water paddling session in.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: ninja tuna on November 07, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
That is BS.  I have just gone through the same thing. Literally had surgery 10 days ago. Insurance company wanted me to do 6 weeks of therapy.  Called the insurance and said this is a joke and useless and will make no difference. They told me to have the doctor call them. He did. Dr told me it was literally a 1 minute phone call and then I got my surgery. 

If you have any questions, let me know. Gotta run to PT now but will be back later.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: oceanAddict on November 08, 2018, 05:10:23 PM
Huh, something in the air with those left knees..

3-4 weeks ago I managed overwork my knee and it was bothering me for a few days but not so that I would call my PCP. I SUP surfed more than usual, played basketball and ran so I thought  _ I might give it a rest some ice and ibuprofen and all gonna be OK. Then another weekend came and waves were so good I could not resist to go out. Initially, I thought it's probably not a good idea as the left knee was a bit swollen and I had a hard time to paddle on my knees. But eventually fun and waves made me forgot about it. Next morning was really bad: I thought I might pull something in it so I wore a compression sleeve for a day. By the end of the day, the ankle got so swollen that I went to the urgent care clinic the next morning. The doc on duty said - there's nothing serious, you overworked it - and sleeve contributed to the swollen ankle. No Xray no noting. Just ibuprofen, keep the leg up and take it easy.  It's been almost 2 weeks and it's still painful, cannot do squat, climbing stairs up especially with the kiddo in arms is painful and still, have some puffiness in around the patella.
 
So I'm not sure what to do. One one hand it bothers me and I cannot do lot of things, on another I don't wanna be the guy who is running to ER with a splinter. Should I go it my PCP and let him decide? Give it another week? Try to find knee specialists?
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on November 08, 2018, 09:36:49 PM
That is BS.  I have just gone through the same thing. Literally had surgery 10 days ago. Insurance company wanted me to do 6 weeks of therapy.  Called the insurance and said this is a joke and useless and will make no difference. They told me to have the doctor call them. He did. Dr told me it was literally a 1 minute phone call and then I got my surgery.

Since I have a partial tear on the inside of the meniscus, if my surgeon goes in with a scope now, there is nothing for him to see to repair. Partial tears of the meniscus are different than a full blown torn meniscus.

It is hard to explain so I'll try to make an analogy.

Think of a piece of flat paper which is 1" in thickness. If you tear the paper, it will be torn on the edge of the paper to make the tear so the tear is easily seen. Now think of the paper with a slight cut on the inside of the 1" thickness so it is buried in the paper but shows no outward appearance on the surface of the paper.

In order to repair this type of tear (partial, not seen) the scope is useless. It would take the "long cut" on the right inside of my left knee and this is something he does not want to do since it is a long procedure and there is a good chance of "doing more harm than good" because he would have to guess where the hidden tear is inside the tissue of the meniscus because again, the partial tear is hidden.

Bad for him and worse for me at my age. He has been doing this type of surgery for 33 years and he has done both my right and left shoulders. Since I have 100% mobility, the swelling has disappeared and I've got no pain when I walk. Everything he told me would happen with my knee has happened up to this point. This is why MRI's are so good at seeing things inside of the body. The partial tear will slowly tear and eventually come to the the surface of the meniscus.

When I asked him when the tear will be on the surface of the meniscus, he told me "my left knee will definitely tell me". This is why he DOES NOT want me to "baby the knee". Just go about my life and when I notice my left knee talking to me, then I'll have the surgery.

Here's is another analogy with the same results basically.

I have a very small cataract in each of my left and right eyes which I never knew I had. If you look very closely at each eye, you can't see any white colored cloudiness in my eyes. But my ophthalmologist can see them with his equipment. He told me when the cataracts get large enough, he will surgically replace the lenses in both eyes with new lenses but it will be his decision when he operates on both of my eyes, one eye at a time.

Usually, cataract surgery on one eye takes about two weeks to heal and then I'll have the other eye done two weeks later.

Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on November 08, 2018, 09:54:25 PM
@ oceanAddict

There is only one way to tell if something is wrong in your knee and that involves getting an MRI done. The ankle is another problem that might be related to your knee or not.

By the time I saw my orthopedic surgeon (OS), it had been four weeks of pain and swelling on the right inside of my left knee. In the surgeon's office, the physical knee exam was no picnic and this is why he ordered an MRI for me.

After the physical knee exam, he suspected a torn meniscus, but he didn't suspect a partial tear of the meniscus. The two are different from one another and an MRI is the only way to confirm the difference between the two since they both produce the same symptoms.

BTW, my MRI showed I severely strained my medial collateral ligament too. My bone x-rays showed some bone on bone with a little arthritis in the knee which hasn't bothered me (yet). My OS told me anyone who is 50 years of age or older, they have arthritis some place in their knees even though they don't feel it (yet). It's the aging process.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: ninja tuna on November 09, 2018, 05:44:04 AM
Hey nightwing,

I was basically calling BS on the insurance thing.  I had to fight with mine and it did not put me in a good mood.

I am not understanding your explanation of your tear completely.  To explain mine.

As you know, for simplicity sake, your meniscus is basically a donut  with the inside being thin and getting thicker to the outside.  Mine was a flap tear on the inside where I had one flap folded over one way and one the other.  The MRI just showed a flap tear that only went about 10-20% the width of the meniscus. Once the doc was in there he showed me the pictures of 2 flaps. My doc told me mine was an easy fix.  That inner, thinner part does not get blood flow so to repair it was basically useless.  What he did was basically shave that part down and clean in it up. He has 100% confidence that I will be back to the crazy active lifestyle I  live.  Luckily it was just 2 holes in my knee with 4 stitches total.  I had surgery on a Friday. Laid around all weekend and was back at work walking around on Monday. Granted I was limping pretty good but my job is active. Each day the limp got less and less.  My doc showed me all the pictures from inside my knee and said all my cartilage, ligaments and other internals looked good with no warnings of other problems.



I don't know how I did mine. I had an active couple of weeks with surfing and a lot of sparring in in kickboxing, and all the other exercise things I do back  in February.  One morning I woke up and had some pain behind my knee cap.  Kept going hard for another few days and it got worse so everything got put on hold. I could not squat with out pain. I was still mobile without too many problems.  Then work happened and I just put it aside because I had no real problems. 100% mobility like you. My job was supposed to finish up 2 months ago but is still ongoing. Was going to take care of it then. Couldn't. One day about a month ago when I went to stand up from my desk, it locked up kinda and gave me a good limp for a few days. That was when I said I am going to get this done now.

I  figured it was a meniscus tear from researching what my problems were.  Just when you start doing that and seeing the different types, that is where it became over my head. I was correct and luckily after reading about all the different types, some of which are quite bad. I was happy mine was pretty minor. ELATED actually.

Then the insurance battle started 2 days before my surgery, the insurance company denied the surgery and wanted me to do 6 weeks of physical therapy.  After the simple and easy explanation from above from my doc, any one with half a brain can realize that physical therapy is not going to help this. That was the fight with the insurance company. My doc called them and told me it was literally a 1 minute conversation and the surgery was approved.

I wish you the best of luck in dealing with your knee. 
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: Night Wing on November 09, 2018, 10:55:05 AM
@ ninja tuna

I can walk, I can kneel, I can climb stairs, I can squat, I can cross my legs underneath me sitting indian style around a campfire. All with no pain. The MRI shows the partial tear inside the meniscus, but it is so small the MRI had trouble seeing it. This is why the person who read the MRI first at the imaging site, missed it. My surgeon didn't miss it.

My pain and swelling is not due to the partial tear. My pain came from the severely strained medial ligament. As the ligament was healing, it wasn't healing right. The ligament took a set and when I tried to walk, the pain made me hobble along. This is why a torn meniscus was the prime suspect. The meniscus is underneath the ligament.

My surgeon called me at my home at noon last Friday, Nov 2nd and told me to start doing the stretching exercises for my left knee and the knee exercises are targeting the ligament. Because I was going to be in his office on Nov 6th to see him, I was going to have the same knee exam to see how much mobility I had in the knee from when I first saw him on Oct 18th.

I have 100% mobility. But I'm still doing those stretching exercises at my home to help the ligament heal. My sessions are Monday, Wednesday and Friday with two, one hour sessions per day. I start at 7am and finish at 8am. Then at 2pm, I do the second session and finish at 3pm. If I'm feeling "bold and frisky", I'll do another session at 9pm and finish at 10pm.

And come next Tuesday, Nov 13th, I'll no longer be taking Etodolac because the ligament will be healed. If I have some pain, but no swelling, that is the partial tear "expanding" inside the meniscus. I've got the topical gel to keep that pain under control. Once the gel does not relieve the pain, then my surgeon told me to see him, "asap" and he and I will go from there.

But the partial tear may not expand for a long time. It's just a waiting game to see what it does. This is why I was told NOT to "baby my knee". The only restriction I'm under; no running, no jumping and no changing of directions quickly (like when I play basketball with my next door neighbor at our subdivision's commons area since the commons has an outdoor regulation size basketball court).

In closing, my surgeon told me since 1985, he has only seen three partial tears "inside" a meniscus and mine is the third one. And it is also the smallest partial tear he's ever seen.






Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: ninja tuna on November 09, 2018, 01:13:05 PM
That is really interesting in the way yours is.  Hopefully when it "goes" it will be in a direction or way that it is not too bad.  I hope you will have an easy a time as I am post-op.  Ligaments are a pain and take time to heal. Good to hear you are getting past that part.
Title: Re: Left Knee Torn Meniscus Diagnosis
Post by: RideTheGlide on December 03, 2018, 06:14:12 AM
It's "discuss my surgery day" on my first day on this forum. I just posted about shoulders. I had my left knee scoped 4 and a half years ago. 3 meniscus tears, fraying all around the patella, loose bits and arthritis. IME, a couple of months of PT are adequate *if* you really will do the at home exercises.  I did not fully recover because he can't do anything about the arthritis. No squats, no more than a couple of flights of stairs at a time. I pretty much had to quit running. I was running 6+ miles 3 times a week before I starting pulling up lame at shorter and shorter distances.  I was able to complete my one and only half marathon a few months prior, which was a goal I had set when I got serious about running about a year earlier. I was 55 at the time of surgery. Anyway, one more data point...
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