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Title: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Beasho on August 09, 2018, 08:38:06 AM
This was built from scraps in the woodpile, the attic and a boogie board found in the neighbor’s trash.

I wanted to see how this would fly compared to my high-end Blue Planet board.  It’s work to get started behind the 5 hp motor but it flies.   

With some practice it might pump indefinitely

 https://youtu.be/xUxgGLhOL5s
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Beasho on August 09, 2018, 08:43:10 AM
Here were the stages of construction
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Beasho on August 09, 2018, 08:55:49 AM
My daughter successfully flew first. 

The board starts like a wakeboard and then SLOWLY, SLOWLY gets up.  It can take up to 45 or more seconds to get flying.

The design above was totally unstable for me.  Yet my daughter flew without a problem.  What I realized was that my heals were sitting on the foam.  Without adequate heal pressure control there was no hope of flying and I would wobble out of control and crash like a beginner.

On the second set of tests the boogie foam ripped off the back of the board.

So I went back to the drawing board, rummaged around the attic and found some bamboo for a splint and aluminum rail for heal control. 

Perfect!
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: eastbound on August 09, 2018, 08:59:57 AM
do you own stock in gorilla glue?!!
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Subber on August 09, 2018, 09:05:58 AM
Boogie Fever!

Awesome!
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: eastbound on August 09, 2018, 09:12:36 AM
gotta love the goofy-specific asym design
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Beasho on August 09, 2018, 09:12:40 AM
gotta love the goofy-specific asym design
YES!  A major observation from this experiment was that:

Foil Boards with Straps Should be Asymmetrical

This will be bad for production/commercial reasons but given that users are either Goofy or Regular foot the design of the platform and certainly how you connect to the foil should not be symmetric.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Califoilia on August 09, 2018, 10:10:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/6GtS3hm.jpg)
How I'm picturing Beasho in his Ghetto foil lab. ;D
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: SUPladomi on August 09, 2018, 11:53:15 AM
This is freaking awesome! Now I won't have to buy a Dwarfcraft 3'6" when my skill level outgrows my current beginning board for kitefoiling.

https://www.slingshotsports.com/2019-Dwarf-Craft-3-6
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Beasho on August 09, 2018, 12:55:20 PM
This is freaking awesome! Now I won't have to buy a Dwarfcraft 3'6" when my skill level outgrows . . .
https://www.slingshotsports.com/2019-Dwarf-Craft-3-6

Correct!

All you need is a skateboard deck. 

Or just make a plywood surfboard and bolt on the Tuttle or similar track adapter.

My 1" x 6" x 36" Pressure treated stringer was a bit overkill.  I may carve out the center.  The whole rig WITH THE GO FOIL MALIKO 200 weighs 20 lbs.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: surfcowboy on August 09, 2018, 07:52:12 PM
I’d offer this idea for v2.

1/4” (3mm) plywood maybe 12” x 30” sheathed in a layer or two of glass or carbon (use your leftovers) to stiffen it up.

Put that on the bottom and bolt the foil to it. You could probably bolt the straps to it through the board with a little ingenuity.

I’d like having the foam top. It’d save those prone shapers a lot of sanding if they just bag traction over the whole top now that I think about it.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: supthecreek on August 10, 2018, 07:36:01 AM
Definitely cheaper than the gym!
You're gonna harden up pretty quick, if you keep pumping like that!
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: surfercook on August 11, 2018, 02:06:04 PM
That is truly amazing!  :o Beasho's brainstorm boogie board!
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: kiwi on November 09, 2018, 12:33:13 AM
Oh no the ghetto foil is no longer the world's shortest board
Kai's new whip is a 2'8"
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp8m3PlhSO7/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bp8m3PlhSO7/)
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: ninja tuna on November 09, 2018, 01:24:36 PM
Oh, I am finally seeing a reason to buy those CBC foam surfboards on sale now.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: stoneaxe on November 09, 2018, 04:09:17 PM
Frankenfoil would be a better name...:)
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: Evan Lloyd on November 09, 2018, 08:41:11 PM
Very cool. They say the board isn’t important once you’re flying. I’ve always wondered if an old skateboard or an old ironing board would work. You could cut something out of plywood, seal it, cover the top with a deck pad and “theoretically” be good to go. I wished I lived where I could experiment with this stuff. Nice job Beasho.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: PonoBill on November 10, 2018, 07:10:12 AM
It's the notch in that stringer that's causing all the problems.

Austin's prone board looks like Dave cut the last two feet off one of his boards. Like a teeny, tiny Mr. Fugly.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: surfcowboy on November 10, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
Anyone else marveling at the fact that half his wing is out of the water and he'll just keep right on going. The rules don't apply to Kai.
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: ninja tuna on June 27, 2019, 12:50:43 PM
Revisiting this thread.

I am considering building a ghetto foil to play behind the boat for a little bit.  Picked up a cheap CBC type surfboard form craigslist.   On the botttom, I was going shave out enough to put in sheet of half in plywood so it would sit flush with the rails and bottom of the board.  Basically the section where my foil and feet would be.  Then I would just do do the same for the top. Then add some old trac top for grip.   

Think it will work,

would you change anything 
Title: Re: Ghetto Foil
Post by: 808sup on June 27, 2019, 03:33:04 PM
I did something similar about 2 years ago. I took the 5'8" sushi board and mounted my kite foil to it. I put an aluminum plate on both the top and bottom of the board. It worked, but it felt a little too flexy am I liking and it was also heavy even with using aluminum.
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