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General => The Shape Shack => Topic started by: Surfside on August 01, 2018, 04:49:47 AM
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Hi, I'm going to build another board and would like to have a combo tuttle with fin boxes. Has anyone seen this type of setup that you can buy? If not, what boxes would you recommend.
Thanks
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You might ping Robert or one of his team at Blue Planet, their new foil boards have a combo set up.
Maybe they can give you some guidance on what they use.
I'm far bhind on foiling but have thought about converting my 7'10" Poenix V2. I would start with a twin track, pre set in a divinycell block. Once the block is in place a Tuttle could easely be routed in later if needed. And by then, I would have some real world experience on mast placement for this board. For somone needing a tuttle right away, I would just make sure the high density block is long and wide enough to retro the twin tracks later.
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Kong’s Paddle Boards dell a wide and long Tuttle box called the King Tutt.
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Kong’s Paddle Boards dell a wide and long Tuttle box called the King Tutt.
I got my tuttle box from King's and it was not square. Looking at the reviews there, it sounds like I'm not the only one, so be aware of that if you go that route.
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That's surprising, Dave is a master of CNC.
I'd do Chinook mast bases and probably a GoFoil Tuttle box, though actually if I were doing one today I'd skip the Tuttle and just use a converter. The extra 4" or so would be welcome.
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Yeah, I'm going to question the Tuttle. Buy the cassette from U.K. (shipping is no big deal) and just drop that in. Easy.
Oh, and regarding the Chinook only folks. I'm sure they are better, but I also can't imagine that any of the production boards are using them so I'm going to say that the Futures that Charlie uses are fine. Also, if you watch the Instagram like all the kids you can see him pumping the hell out of his board with no issues.
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Yeah, I'm going to question the Tuttle. Buy the cassette from U.K. (shipping is no big deal) and just drop that in. Easy.
Oh, and regarding the Chinook only folks. I'm sure they are better, but I also can't imagine that any of the production boards are using them so I'm going to say that the Futures that Charlie uses are fine. Also, if you watch the Instagram like all the kids you can see him pumping the hell out of his board with no issues.
If I could post photos, I’d show you the broken other boxes. The last time I reordered with Chinook, I had to wait weeks to get mine because they had filled orders for 300 and 500 boxes shipping to Asia. Don’t put your head in the sand. Use chinook.
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First, I appreciate you all!
Thanks for all the input and advice.
PB, I was reading earlier construction comments that you had posted about tracks vs. Tuttle. Awesome disscussion! This board will be constructed with 2lb EPS, carbon and innegra. I also have 6 mil H80 DV and HD foam that will be incorporated into the construction.....hmm, might have to add stringer/s.
surfcowboy, cassette from U.K.?
I'm 6'1" and 210 lbs and this boards dimensions will be 7' 31" 5" nose 1" tail rocker and about 130 liters. Our surf in Texas, lacks power and I need all the speed I can muster to catch a wave. I'm hoping this flatter rocker profile will help.
BTW, I own a King's and really like it but, it is a combo SUP/Foil with a 5" nose 3" tail. For my skill level, I can only catch on the peak.
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+1 on Chinook. The ride engine cassettes are very easy to install.
http://www.rideengine.com/Surf-Foil-Track-Box
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Can't wait to get started! Deadbeat boards is going to work on it with me after he finishes playing with his big Weiner.
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Big Weiner
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DW, that's good info. I could not imagine that the overseas guys would bother.
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Ordered Chinook mast tracks yesterday and received info that they shipped. :)
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Sorry, a little distracted: what is your friend going to do with all that Weinermobile awesomeness?
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From 1965!
https://youtu.be/aNddW2xmZp8
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:D
He's building a food dispensary trailer for a friend.
Quite the craftsman!
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Big Weiner
They used to be designed and fabricated across the street from my shop in SB 10 years ago...always a head turner...they did other skunkworks projects there, too...now, the space is the most hip and happening brew pub in town...
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Well my buddy, Deadbeat, continues playing with his wiener so I decided to get going without him :)
I'm using 1.5 lb foam with a 5.7 innegra/carbon weave top and bottom, then apply 20 oz carbon patches to reinforce the tuttle and foot areas.
7 x 31 x 4.5
I wonder if it will be strong enough...
What do you think?
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Poor mans oven
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You’re looking for opinions after you built it?
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Playing with a big Weiner takes time. Not that I'd know.
A nice looking board, but let's see some better pics. Particularly the rails and tail. I'm not seeing a bevel or a step. I'd be forced to consider that a fault after having experienced the benefits.
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DW, at the time of this shot, only the bottom had been glassed. I applied the deck glass yesterday morning and this is my third board that I have built. Just wondering if I need to add more layers of cloth...
PB, lol...this is an attempt at copying a friend's board that he gets flying very quickly. He is 70 and does not monkey pump.... also, he has a new Kalama but never see him using it. This will be used in our small slow gutless Texas surf. When the surf picks up, I'll continue to use my King until I build another board.
More pics to come.
Video of him riding his board: https://youtu.be/IqlkdCYsnbE
Found out what Deadbeat has been doing....another innegra board.
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Deck glassed, time to add some reinforcement patches. Weight 13 lbs
Really enjoy using this cloth, I did not have to make any triangle cuts for the corners and rail wraps.
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That looks great. I'm going to have to play with some innegra.
The video actually shows what I'm talking about. Your geezer buddy is pulling his board up against the leverage of the floaty tail, it's not popping up. That's fine, it's controllable and easy enough, but the deep bevel tail is a revelation. Maybe next time.
Love the names of the boards. the deadbeat windowlicker is my favorite. Monkeypump is a good name too. I'm not much of a monekypumper either. My monkeypumping knee doesn't care for it. I'm probably going to replace some of my choice and common profanity with monkeypumper.
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Thanks PB, glad you got a chuckle. Yeah, Deadbeat Monkeypumper sounds like a good board name :). We've used two different innegra weaves so far, the IN36A Plain 3.50 IS-940 and this carbon/innegra from innovativecompositetechnologies. He weaves it in North Carolina and sells on ebay.
Next board will have the tail bevel but first I want to try and paddle a sinker like Steamroller.
BTW, with this rocker, if I don't like the board, I'll drop in a mast track and foot straps. Might be a good slalom board....lol
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Thx for the innegra info man. I gotta try some too.
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That actual 3.5oz 50” wide Innegra cloth from BGF is treated with something that stiffens it during handling, and completely prevents any fraying while working with it.
My experience with the mixed carbon/Innegra all in one weaves, is the Innegra frays like a bitch. White hairs everywhere. In addition to the already fraying black carbon hairs getting everywhere. It works great, it sucks to work with compared to BGF pure Innegra.
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DW, I'm super impressed by your foil board designs.
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Well, sanding into the black innegra on this weave creates major fuzz so, I had to add a layer of 4oz fiberglass over it. Sadly, cold damp weather has been slowing my progress but the end is in sight. Pictures soon.
Next board will be a log and I'm going to try the IN33 without the vacuum bagging. :)
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Yeah, innegra always has to be covered. It’s like Kevlar in that respect.
And no sand throughs. It will leak. Not for amateur builders, that’s for sure.
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DW, I'm super impressed by your foil board designs.
Thanks Bill. If you know Big Mike, check out his boards. He has a few of mine.
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If I could post photos, I’d show you the broken other boxes. The last time I reordered with Chinook, I had to wait weeks to get mine because they had filled orders for 300 and 500 boxes shipping to Asia. Don’t put your head in the sand. Use chinook.
Why can’t you post photos?
Are you worried about getting COLA’d?
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If I could post photos, I’d show you the broken other boxes. The last time I reordered with Chinook, I had to wait weeks to get mine because they had filled orders for 300 and 500 boxes shipping to Asia. Don’t put your head in the sand. Use chinook.
Why can’t you post photos?
I was all-in with photobucket. When they screwed everyone, never felt like getting screwed over by someone new.
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DW, me too. However the attachment feature here works decently. Resize down to like 800 wide and you’re good to go.
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DW, me too. However the attachment feature here works decently. Resize down to like 800 wide and you’re good to go.
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Almost there, 7'4" 32" 4.75" 15.5lbs
Paint and pad soon, I put the handle a tad too forward, oh well, next board.
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Nice work man. Love the finish too.
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The handle looks OK, you'll be holding it and the fuselage most of the time, so the balance doesn't matter much.
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Thanks! Well, had to put finishing it on hold. Upper Texas coast got the goods this weekend. Head high waves.....Yay!
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Nice! Gotta love those chocolate Yoo-hoo barrels.
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Finally made it out. I was able to catch small waves that were not breaking....super happy :)
Already thinking about a smaller version with an aggressive tail kick as suggested.