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Stand Up Paddle => SUP General => Topic started by: surfercook on June 26, 2018, 08:00:27 AM
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....easy go. I bought this board off Craig's list on Monday, May 28th and broke it yesterday on Sunday, June 25th. My shortest time ever w/a new board. I feel as a part of my soul has been ripped away. I connected w/the Hull Ripper very quickly. My previous record was 6 weeks w/an Ashton longboard years ago. But that didn't seem to have the same effect on me.
As I walked back to my gear on the beach carrying the two broken pieces a little girl about 10 years old looked at me and said she was sorry. When I got home my wife looked at me and said "What's wrong". I gestured w/my head for her to look back at my sup cart and she then said "Holy crap"! Doubt I will ever find another Hull Ripper (Especially on Craig's for $300) but there's always a little hope.
"Big Red" crashed in the shorebreak at near full speed. I caught a beauty of an outsider and as I approached the final end section misread it and thought I could get in and out quick enough but had to bail b4 I could kickout.
I will never forget you, Red. :'(
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Last Wave In
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My view while riding Red's last wave in
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Inside shorebreak that claimed Red
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Bummer. I would fix em brudda. It’s the easiest part of the board to put back together. Get it done light. Like you said, another same board, hard to find.
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Easy fix! (*Disclaimer: for someone with awesome repair skills.) I'd probably try, using roughly the same technique used to fix my recent paddle snap. A similar break happened to my longboard (in a similar way), and Ray Lucke here in Oxnard fixed it for around $300... roughly the price of your board. Since then, I've found the determination, and motivation to attempt to fix most of my repairs. $$$
A sad story, no doubt. I've always wanted to try a hull ripper but hadn't ever found one that fit. Best of luck in whatever direction your next ride takes you...as long as you can avoid the shore break.
p.s. Are those tears on the camera lens in the first picture? :'(
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Hey SC, tough break, but if you are willing to drop her off at my place up in Monmouth County, I would be more than happy to put her back together for you.
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That is some tough luck. Sorry to see your Hull Ripper broke. Hope you find another Hull Ripper.
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You can fix it.
Use Gorilla Glue. Align the Nose and Voila - Back in one Piece!
Then just worry about laminating to make it look semi-clean and water tight.
Good news is that its mostly cosmetic. You stuffed the nose. The structural integrity is likely still good under your feet. Its like getting a random ding. Even with a poor repair job as long as you don't hit the same spot again your fine.
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that sux and hope it works out for ya.
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I appreciate all the sympathies and suggestions to repair this mess. I kinda figured it could be glued back. The Zone is the best place for help and moral support. Maybe even more so than the real world? :) I now have hope that my board will be repaired and my soul will be somewhat intact again.
You can fix it. Use Gorilla Glue. Align the Nose and Voila - Back in one Piece!
That is some good news! Guessing a dowel or some kind of wood sistered up against the stringer of both broken pieces can't hurt for structural integrity.
Are those tears on the camera lens in the first picture? :'( I've always wanted to try a hull ripper but hadn't ever found one that fit.
lol...typical GoPro smudgeness! If you ever find yourself on this side of the divide make sure you look me up, Slatch. Demo the Hull you will, assuming it's repaired.
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Hey SC, tough break, but if you are willing to drop her off at my place up in Monmouth County, I would be more than happy to put her back together for you.
It's happening! Saved by the Bean! Good repairing to you, sir!
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Yeah, that's an easy one. Been hit harder than that on my lip and never stopped whistling.
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That sucks surfercook!
Every board I've ever broke in half never surfed the same after it was repaired. Just sayen'
From your surfing photos you really seemed to "Get along well" with that board!
Maybe a good shaper can copy the board and make you a new one. Superb board and dimensions I think. I've been looking on Craigslist forever and have never seen that particular board come up for sale?
Good luck whatever you do.
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First, I'd say you had the wrong guy do the work. I've had broken boards that surfed as well or better. You can't just dive in willy-nilly, but it's feasible. I doubt anything that the Board Lady fixed was ever less of a board than it was before it was trashed.
Second, it's just the nose, and there's a big peeled section. That's good, it helps get the old trashed stuff out of the way so the repairer can start with clean EPS. And it's not a structural part of the board, just mostly a flow element. It doesn't need to be strong, so it can be light.
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Every board I've ever broke in half never surfed the same after it was repaired. Good luck whatever you do.
Yes, agreed. But sometimes it is close to the orig. I've had more wrap jobs than I care to remember and a few have been pretty good. One was sooo heavy I just gave the board away.
it's just the nose, and there's a big peeled section. And it's not a structural part of the board, just mostly a flow element.
Hopefully I'll be flowing again on the old girl soon!
Thanx for the positivity, guys!
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Or.......... you could likely order up a Hull Ripper redux w/ customs tweaks just for you from BC himself. If it's a magic board- probably well worth it.
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Or.......... you could likely order up a Hull Ripper redux w/ customs tweaks just for you from BC himself. If it's a magic board- probably well worth it.
That would be amazing to have a custom Hull Ripper. Maybe one day. But first let's see if Bean's efforts save the 'ol girl. I dropped it off yesterday and the repair has already been started. You ain't messin' around, Roy! :)
It's all about the speed and ripping!
https://vimeo.com/29188319
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What?...no Spanish windlass..... ;)
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You know I was thinking exactly that. But, since we have the headroom we're going to let gravity do it's thing. The fun is just begnning!
The construction on this board is interesting. It has a wood stringer and it is laminated top and bottom with bamboo.
You see a lot of influence from this board in Tom Caroll's Lose Leaf, especially the hull entry (the chine).
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i believe Chambers is still shaping customs in hawaii...def not 300 bucks but you can get another hull ripper...
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Good luck with the repair...looks pretty easy...just don't stuff the nose again...;-)
Definitely the eco-minded thing to do...
Wish I had Eva (Board Lady) around back in my college days...snapped several boards in the macking Humboldt waves...
Eva did put back a couple of sailboards that I broke at Jalama...and, then I broke them again...
Also, wish that I had kept this triple stringer Diffenderfer single fin gun from the 70's that I snapped and put back together with a Surfer Mag Pipeline centerfold laminated on the bottom...then snapped it again in a huge barrel...my breaks were much more structural than yours...at least my red Brewer gun from that era survived Humboldt, Puerto, and Hawaii...and, is hanging in my shop...
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Cookieman!!! WTH???
Ooopsie..... sucks, but just a temporary set back.
1st off, you broke the nose off... no big deal.... not in the center where repairs really get tested.
Plus not where it will affect flex when riding.
I put together 2 board a few years ago.... never did it before.
Fun and easy.
Neither board gained an ounce in the fix.... and went back into regular service, never noticed a difference.
I kept a picture diary of the process.... I will look through the archives (off hundreds of thousands of pictures)
I will email them to you and try to find the writup I did on it.
You got this cookie..... big Red will be sliding through summer! ;D ;D
Quick and dirty look at my repair:
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,27108.msg281893.html#msg281893
Good luck!
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What?...no Spanish windlass..... ;)
Had to Google that one. Interesting concept.
The construction on this board is interesting. It has a wood stringer and it is laminated top and bottom with bamboo.You see a lot of influence from this board in Tom Caroll's Lose Leaf, especially the hull entry (the chine).
I was surprised to see the bamboo laminate. Tom Caroll is one of my sup heroes. I was so stoked when I saw him on sup yrs ago at snapper Rocks.
i believe Chambers is still shaping customs in hawaii...def not 300 bucks but you can get another hull ripper...
Yes, BC is def still in HI. Lucky dog! The Craig's List price was the beauty of this board. Def the cheapest sup I ever bought. And one of the most performance oriented too.
BrownSugah is a very cool user name. I've played Brown Sugar by the Stones on my electric gtr a quite a loud volume!
Good luck with the repair...looks pretty easy...just don't stuff the nose again...;-) Definitely the eco-minded thing to do...
Wish I had Eva (Board Lady) around back in my college days...snapped several boards in the macking Humboldt waves...
Eva did put back a couple of sailboards that I broke at Jalama...and, then I broke them again...
Also, wish that I had kept this triple stringer Diffenderfer single fin gun from the 70's that I snapped and put back together with a Surfer Mag Pipeline centerfold laminated on the bottom...then snapped it again in a huge barrel...my breaks were much more structural than yours...at least my red Brewer gun from that era survived Humboldt, Puerto, and Hawaii...and, is hanging in my shop...
I so enjoyed your big wave and broken board stories,SS. What's your for real name?
I like that you said eco-minded. Throwing away a surfboard is such a crime against nature. We're all guilty of it too. Triple stringer board? ! had a Boardworks triple stringer longboard and broke it three times! The third time it got chucked!
I knew I'd seen the word Jalama recent! It's in that video I posted a while back "The Best Hours Of The Day".
Cookieman!!! WTH??? Ooopsie..... sucks, but just a temporary set back. You got this cookie..... big Red will be sliding through summer! ;D ;D
Good luck!
lol...wth isn't exactly what I said, but close! I'll have to bleep that audio out if I ever edit the footage! Thanx for the cheer on! Hopefully Bean will button her up right and tight. Checkin out your broken messes now.
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Step two. Bean said he's keeping the original laminate layers and re-attaching the skin on the bottom. Pretty sure it's bamboo and fiberglass. He also anticipates very little weight to be added to the board.
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Don't listen to these guys, your board is totally destroyed. No way you can ever repair it. In fact, I'll do you a favor and take it off your hands, just to ease your pain. (JK, totally repairable IMO)
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Your board is totally destroyed. No way you can ever repair it.
lol...You are correct in that no way I could ever repair it..well, proper anyways.
Step 3 of the Bean fix under way.
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Step 4 done- sistering up the stringer. Bean told me he used some cedar scraps from his paddle building days. Impressive.
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Step 5 done- laminate and prime. Looking Bean clean!
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All buttoned up w/paint now. Step 6 looking good, Bean! Hard to believe this board didn't end up in a dumpster.
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Very cool.
I broke my new Jeff Clark board in half in 3 months. Then had it put back together and surfed it for 7 more years. Was my favorite board for 10 to 18 ft waves and it held up until the end.
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Very cool. I broke my new Jeff Clark board in half in 3 months. Then had it put back together and surfed it for 7 more years. Was my favorite board for 10 to 18 ft waves and it held up until the end.
What happened? Break again? 10 to 18 foot waves are def outa my pay grade!
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- Newborn
- 3 Years Old
- 5 Years Old
I then repaired the 2 forward quad-fin boxes, that just randomly blew out, twice. But she kept on swimming.
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Here were some of the better pics from the 7th year of the board in action. And its final demise. I was a sad sack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNAybIFYPDs
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Surfercook...that looks like a great repair. Hope that PSH is resurrected and surfs better than before.
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Thanx for the stoke, WL. She does look like a winner on that repair for sure. Can't wait to get er back.
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Good on you guys for preserving it!
Did you or Bean notice what the carbon construction lay up was?
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Good on you guys for preserving it! Did you or Bean notice what the carbon construction lay up was?
The preservation was all Bean.
I was ready to chuck the ol girl. I didn't notice any carbon fiber cloth at all. Maybe Bean did.
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There was no visible layer of carbon fiber, but there seemed to be a layer of innegra (carbon) or similar under the black stripe. Unfortunatley the side that the reinforcement was on was the compression side of the break. Had the board flipped over first, it might have been able to take the hit.
The top, bottom and rails are classic wood-sandwich construction. Inner glass, bamboo veneer and outer glass...(virtually) bomb proof.
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I was a sad sack.
It's so heartbreaking when you wreck a board. It's like part of you is suddenly gone.
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Finally picked up the Hull Ripper from Bean. Both drop-off and pickup had Bean absent chasing the American dream (aka working 9-5), so we've yet to actually meet. But we're hoping to surf together one day soon. We did speak for a good length on the phone twice covering a range of subjects. I asked him to send me a pic of him surfing and he obliged.
When I asked him how much $s for the repair he said zero, nada, zilch! Zone karma prevails once again. :) I did prepare a nicely sized jar of NJ peaches in syrup for his enjoyment. I noticed there was another repair project on deck in the form of a center buckle/break on a pop out longboard.
STOKED! Thanx, Bean! I'll try not to break her again. :-[
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The peaches are safe and sound in my fridge, can't wait to sample them!
Looking forward to surfing with you soon Marc; just need the waves to cooperate.
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Awesome...nice job Bean.
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Great work!
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Thanks guys, I feel like I learn something new on every repair. Fun stuff.
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Nice work Bean!
Yowza coookieman.... alive again ;D
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bean! nice work--and nice aloha--cookie's a good egg--your karma just upticked nicely
i kind of enjoy repairs too--started doing them bc there are no ding repairers nearby, but as my skills improve, it seems less of a chore
just repaired a brand new board that arrived with the tail crunched--enjoying the repair and got it perfect--but annoyed re poor packaging and insurance blah blah paperwork blah blah--got fed up and just repared it--cheap lesson
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The part that really gives me the most difficulty is the paint. When I luck into the right color, I feel like a rock star. But that's only happened a couple times. I sometimes think I should just pick a single color and stick with it...no matter what. ;D
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The part that really gives me the most difficulty is the paint.
I was more worried about the integrity of the repair. First go out w/the repair is a win. The Phoenix has risen! :)
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Very stoked for you Marc!
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Very stoked for you Marc!
thanx. It sure felt good to get back on her!
https://app.soloshot.com/video/1f704a41-1d32-44aa-8360-77ee8345b68e
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In case some of you have "Bean" ;D wondering how the repair is holding up here's the update. I've "Bean" :D surfing her alot and unfortunately the breather plug became compromised after about my fourth sesion on her. Guessing the stress of the flex cracked the glass around the plug. Not to worry...Bean said he has a lifetime guarantee on all his repairs. :) So I dropped the board off at the "Bean Board Barn" and this time he was finally home and it wasn't long before he had the board hooked up to his "Moisture extracting vac". Was super cool to finally meet the repair king/legend in person and we spoke for quite a while. He showed me his quiver which contained a single fin longboard sup, hi-performance 2+1 lngbrd sup, sim style twinny sup, and two cool looking regular prone longboards. Seems he spent a fair amount of time residing in my hometown where I grew up. True Jersey boy to the core. If Bean don't put a smile on your face you've a heart of stone!
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I regret to inform that once again I broke the nose of my prized Hull Ripper. I just can't win w/this thing. Paddled like a mile to a wave that was mysteriously breaking while the rest of the area was flat. Caught a few nice waist highs and then mistimed a shorebreak kickout only to have the lip grab the board and send it flying to the sand. Many em effers were spoken as I walked back to my street.
It'll be a Christmas miracle if it gets repaired a second time.
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Rudolph the red nosed ripper, had a very broken nose... :'(
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Rudolph the red nosed ripper, had a very broken nose... :'(
Had me lol, which I needed desperately. I still can't believe "Mi suerte malo"! :( :(
Waves were nice at least so she went down swingin'.
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Seriously, just a flesh wound. Easy fix, I’ll shoot you a text Marc.
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Time to order a new custom from Blaine directly...
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That'll fix. Just don't stuff the nose again.
I just pinged Bean to see how well that moisture extractor works.
I'm still trying to get 2 lbs out of my foil board and think that thing might work. Would love to hear from Bean or others on the effectiveness of a full vacuum.
And/or how much vacuum a board can take before it starts to get crushed. At low enough pressure the moisture has to evaporate.
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It can take full vacuum
I ultrasonic leak test boards under vacuum. Often just letting it go full.
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Bean met me half way today for the board pick-up so didn't hafta drive near as far. We had a nice lunch at a pizzeria and talked for quite a while. Just got the text the nose is glued back on and the fun's beginning! I think you're the opposite of me w/ding repair. I used to do mine if they weren't bad and was kinda ok at it. Been a while since I did one.
Time to order a new custom from Blaine directly...
Man, wouldn't that be sweet! New custom Hull Rippers in a full complement quiver! 8'0" up to 9'11'' in several lengths! First I need to buy some lottos though! ;D
That'll fix. Just don't stuff the nose again.
Well that's some positive vibes that should help! fingers crossed! LOL...when my notification came in email saying you posted here, I was sure you were gonna say I shoulda been foiling. Hafta admit I'm reluctant to try and continue my foiling lessons in the cold winter months ahead. I fall ALOT still! But I need to dis-assemble the foil and make sure all the components are stored properly.
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I like the reused pool rack. My main vacuum pump setup resides on an old portable compressor framework, and my standby pump with homemade oil extractor is built in an old roll around TV stand. it's an oil immersed pump and they generally make a mess spitting oil. Mine has a two-foot stack and a cyclone separator to return the oil to the pump case/ Works fine but has no accumulator or adjustable cut off so it's worthless for anything but air conditioner work.
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Bean's been hard at work! 1000 thank you's sir! We met about halfway this time in a little town where he had to visit an Ace Hardware. After he took the board we hit a pizza place for some lunch...my treat. 🤗🍕. We had an antipasto platter that had romaine lettuce and I didn't even remember about the recent recall w/that stuff and went and ate it anyways. Man was I off fhe next coupla days too! Bean said he was fine.
Board's getting there. Cant believe it's actually gonna ride again!
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Happy to report Bean buttoned her up proper. She's "Bean Clean" now.