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Title: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 01, 2017, 04:58:22 AM
Has anyone ridden the JL Super Frank?

I can't decide between the 7'6 x 31" Wide or the 8'0 x 30" Lean. Both are 115 liters which seems perfect for me at 170lbs. I know I could handle less volume but I think a few extra liters might help with speed and glide which is what I need on those slow mushy days.

I want to go as short as possible but I'm wondering how the extra inch of width on the 7'6 will affect performance compared to the 8'0 x 30". I'm sure I could ride either board comfortably. 

The 7'6 x 29.5" @ 100 liters is tempting but a little too narrow for me at my age, so I'm leaning toward the 7'6 x 31".

I would very much appreciate anyone's experience and/or opinions on this model.

http://jimmylewis.com/shop/super-frank/

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Biggreen on October 01, 2017, 05:57:20 AM
7'6". To me, below 8' is when your board just has that snappy, fun feeling. Often times when I go to surf I'll take two boards, an 8'4" and a 7'7". I always prefer the shorter if the conditions allow.  It's the difference between glidey and snappy. And snappy is more fun for me. I'm more or less your size (6-1 182) and your same age.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: supcymru on October 01, 2017, 05:58:34 AM
Good question Badger-I'm interested in hearing more about this board too. The sizing options make the range very accessible. I like the look of the 8'6 Lean as it should suit me well at 85kg. Have you contacted Marlon Lewis? He's been extremely helpful with my queries in the past and replies quickly to my emails. There also seems to be some good information of the Super Frank on seabreeze.
All the best with your decision!
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Night Wing on October 01, 2017, 06:26:57 AM
Both boards will do fine on those "good" wave conditions. But for those "mushy" wave conditions, I think the 7'6" x 31" would be better than the 8'0" x 30". My vote would be for the 7'6" x 31".
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Biggreen on October 01, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/NEW-Jimmy-Lewis-Super-Frank-7-6-?page=1

This the one?
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: supcymru on October 01, 2017, 11:55:48 AM
https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/NEW-Jimmy-Lewis-Super-Frank-has-landed

https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/NEW-Jimmy-Lewis-Super-Frank-has-landed (https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/NEW-Jimmy-Lewis-Super-Frank-has-landed)


And this one (I'm not too sure if I added the link correctly, but can be found easily by searching 'Super Frank' on the forum). Hope it's useful to you!
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 01, 2017, 12:05:04 PM
Dave at Cinnamon Rainbows just got word from Jimmy and/or Marlon that they are available so I pulled the trigger on the 7'6. I think that's the right choice. I haven't even seen one of these boards in person yet because the shop doesn't ordinarily stock boards this small.

Dave said he's having a run on Super Franks. Two other Frank orders were also placed this week. Funny how the first three orders the shop has seen all happened in the same week. They will all arrive in the same shipment and we should see them next week.



Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: supcymru on October 01, 2017, 12:07:54 PM
Excellent news! I'm excited for you! I look forward to hearing your first impressions on the board.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 01, 2017, 12:23:15 PM


I've been following the Breeze threads ever since the Frank first came out.

I'll definitely do a full report once I get a few sessions in. It sure looks like a fun board.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: coldsup on October 01, 2017, 12:37:08 PM
When I first saw the Superfrank what struck me about it was that the template is so similar to the JP Surf Widebody...which is a board I have had for a few years.....it's a great fun shape.

I'm not saying the two boards are identical because rocker and other stuff will be different....but the outline is very much the same.

With Jimmy's magic I guess it will be a great board too.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 01, 2017, 01:37:29 PM
Yes, the JP 7'11 x 30.5" Surf Wide is similar but not as radical.

The Super Frank appears to take things a step further. The wide point has been moved a bit forward of center. Hard, tucked rails and deep concaves generate speed and drive. It has a wider nose for stability while keeping a performance tail. I expect the rocker is different as well. It's not your typical surfboard.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Biggreen on October 01, 2017, 05:48:17 PM
Well done, Badger! I think you've chosen well and will love it. And in typical male fashion, you'll probably be following up with the 8'er in a few months. Rationalization is a key character trait for us guys. Me, I love it! So post your review, and we'll be looking forward to your thoughts on the 8' model soon😄!
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: NorthJerzSurfer on October 01, 2017, 07:07:14 PM
I held and saw one in person (which is almost impossible as Badger added on the east coast- we never get any boards here ....)

but saw it at 101 Paddlesports in San Rafael last weekend when I was in SF for a wedding.

very nice looking shape, typical super light great JL construction-  but seemed to be a dated shape. (AGAIN I ONLY SAW IT IN THE STORE....no demo!:))

very Wide Point like, Very Pocket Rocket like.

IMHO looks like a great mush wave board to turn quicker (pin tail vs square / simmons) but be stable and get in early with the nose volume and rocker.

whether its better than the original shortboard 'easy' shapes....that's a demo question




Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: eastbound on October 06, 2017, 06:47:58 AM
while youre on it nojerz, and given you move through a lotta boards, which new brands/shapes/designs excite you now?

like which innovative brands/shapes/sizes? which have you tried? which are you dying to try?

if youve time to reply....
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: NorthJerzSurfer on October 06, 2017, 09:56:09 AM
Hey Eastie!  Hope you are surfed out- I was frothing over the LB waves the last month- didnt get out there once.

I've really migrated back to the total traditional surf shape.  It  is what works on the punchy quick in-the-pocket NJ waves.  I've also found that I dont mind a little width these days to keep the boards short.  8'10 vs 8' seems like universes apart for surfing vertically.   (But no more than 31' I'm 200-215lbs)  Also I dont mind sacrificing stability for on wave performance when the waves are good.  I'll just sit to wait- I dont want to ride a log because it easy to stand. 



Im dying to try the new sunovas (the creek but more  the Flash)  when I demoed the acid- that tail really made it surf smaller than it is.  Im using a 9'1 JL SUpertech as my big wave board currently and it doesnt have nearly the snap the Acid had. But the Acid tail worried me on big stuff- when i rode it- and watching videos everyone is VERY twitchy going fast.

I'm waiting for my Riviera to die (its been buckled- i have reinforced it with carbon and it weights about 5lbs more now) I hate the construction but love the shape. That's my every day board now. love/hate relationship.

I may have a shaper knock it off with a few tweaks.

I had a few 'tomo' style shapes.  fun to go real short (i have/had a 7'4 Hypernut and a 7'10 Pop out from a local co.) but really arent pocket surfers- fun like a skateboard on mush- but really quiver not everyday board.

Still searching for 'the one'  :)







Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 09, 2017, 01:30:15 PM
A delay in the shipment of the 7'6 x 31" Super Frank has given me time to reconsider. The better choice would definitely be the 8'0 x 30" but as it turns out, they don't have any in stock.

At my weight of 170, I think the 7'6 at 115 liters might be too much volume and thickness for such a short board.  I didn't want to take the risk so I canceled the entire order.

I guess not many have tried the board yet. I was hoping for more input. It's not easy buying a board on specs alone.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Mmac on October 09, 2017, 04:26:18 PM
Badger, I weigh 195lbs and have been riding the JL SuperFrank Lean 8'x30" all summer. It's been a great little board that works well in a variety of conditions and makes small waving riding a lot more fun. For it's size, it's stable and catches waves well, turns great and motors through flat sections. At my weight, I mainly use it in clean or smaller conditions. It was the board I reached for the most this summer. I had a blast riding it and got lots of compliments on my surfing. I'm rocking it with AU curved front fins combined with a small 3" trailer fin. This combo is working great on this board for me.
Coming down from a 9' board, I found the 8' board to be a lot more fore/aft pitch sensitive with foot placement. I found it so sensitive that I marked exactly where to stand while paddling. Once you get this dialed, all is good. On a wave it's stable and you can move all over it. I love the 8' but can't imagine what the 7'6" is like. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Mmac on October 09, 2017, 04:47:50 PM
A delay in the shipment of the 7'6 x 31" Super Frank has given me time to reconsider. The better choice would definitely be the 8'0 x 30" but as it turns out, they don't have any in stock.

At my weight of 170, I think the 7'6 at 115 liters might be too much volume and thickness for such a short board.  I didn't want to take the risk so I canceled the entire order.

I guess not many have tried the board yet. I was hoping for more input. It's not easy buying a board on specs alone.

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PS, I think the 8'x30" Lean model would be perfect for you.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 09, 2017, 06:25:27 PM
Mmac, thanks for the fine review. It's very helpful. I'm convinced that the 8.0 x 30" is the best choice for me.

I guess the volume and board thickness are my biggest concerns. I'm probably near the lower side of the proper rider weight for this board but I think I'm still within the range.

Ultimately, I think 100 - 105 liters would be perfect. 115 is pretty close and would probably give the board a bit more glide for catching those less than powerful waves.

I doubt the 7'6 x 31" would work as well for me. The 7'6 x 29.5 would be nice but I don't think it would have enough stability.

My 8'4 doesn't have the speed I need for mushy waves. My 8'10 works better but feels too big. The 8'0 Super Frank Lean looks like just the right board for those conditions.

I'm hoping one becomes available soon.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2017, 09:28:09 AM
Mmac, I forgot to ask, how well does the Frank turn with the flat rocker and full length semi hard rails? I expect it doesn't carve like a board with more roundish rails. Does it need to be ridden from the tail?

Do the rails seem chunky at all? Does the board feel corky?
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: surfshaver on October 10, 2017, 11:44:40 AM
I'll chime in here.  I went from a Jimmy Lewis 9'1" Stun Gun to a 7'10" L41 Popdart.  Only 10 liters less volume but a lot more challenging in anything but smooth conditions for me.  Other than volume, for me the most important considerations are length and rocker.

You're right that going from the 8'4" flow to an 8' SF rather than 7'6" is going to be easier.  In smaller mushier waves, glide matters and glide comes from length and rocker.  The 8 footer will help keep up your wave count.

My only regret about the L41 is the fairly aggressive rocker, combined with the shorter length means it doesn't glide into waves very easily and my wave count goes down.  The trade off is that it is a very fast board that can handle overhead waves.

I wouldn't worry about the harder rails and flat rocker.  They will help get the board on top of the water and make it feel skaty and fast.  I haven't seen a close up of the rails but in my experience Jimmy doesn't shape chunky rails.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
I'll chime in here.  I went from a Jimmy Lewis 9'1" Stun Gun to a 7'10" L41 Popdart.  Only 10 liters less volume but a lot more challenging in anything but smooth conditions for me.  Other than volume, for me the most important considerations are length and rocker.

You're right that going from the 8'4" flow to an 8' SF rather than 7'6" is going to be easier.  In smaller mushier waves, glide matters and glide comes from length and rocker.  The 8 footer will help keep up your wave count.

My only regret about the L41 is the fairly aggressive rocker, combined with the shorter length means it doesn't glide into waves very easily and my wave count goes down.  The trade off is that it is a very fast board that can handle overhead waves.

I wouldn't worry about the harder rails and flat rocker.  They will help get the board on top of the water and make it feel skaty and fast.  I haven't seen a close up of the rails but in my experience Jimmy doesn't shape chunky rails.

How much do you weigh? Did it feel like the volume on the 7'10 was right for your weight? I wonder if 115 liters might be a bit floaty for the 7'6 with me at 170lbs.

I had an 8'5 JL World Wide for about a year and I'd say that design had chunky rails. That's why I switched to the Sunova Flow. The Flow is almost identical to the WW but without the chunky rails.

I wasn't worried about the rocker and rail shape of the Frank. They are why I like the design. I just wanted to know how the board turns compared to a board with more normal rails.

The more I think about it, the 8'0 x 30" is the way to go for small slow waves but I still wonder what the 7'6 x 31" would be like. Definitely lower wave count I would think but maybe still fun. I'm sure I could ride either one. I wish I could demo them.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Mmac on October 10, 2017, 04:03:02 PM
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Mmac, I forgot to ask, how well does the Frank turn with the flat rocker and full length semi hard rails? I expect it doesn't carve like a board with more roundish rails. Does it need to be ridden from the tail?

Do the rails seem chunky at all? Does the board feel corky?

It turns super quick, probably more pivoty quick rather than carving quick. I haven't noticed anything negative about the rails and it does have plenty lot of rocker.  The flat section is small which is probably why I find it foot sensitive while paddling.  The rocker allows take offs from the steepest waves without pearling the nose. The wider nose also allows you to lean forward and paddle hard for waves without nose diving. The rails on the Lean model are thinned out from the center of the board which creates a bit of a domed deck.  The rails are even thinner than those on my SuperTech and are nothing like the fat rails on the WW. It doesn't need to be ridden from the tail but like most, the further back, the quicker the turns.  It doesn't feel corky, I would describe it as a bit fore/aft pitchy until you figure out where to stand.
If you're ever in Charleston I'd be glad to let you check it out. I'm considering adding an 8'6" SF Lean to my quiver and may even be co-erced into selling the 8'er.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: surfshaver on October 10, 2017, 04:40:07 PM
Badger, I weigh between 185 and 190, over 200 in a wet wetsuit.  For me 125 liters feels easy and 115 still feels ok, although I'd like to see what that volume feels like in a longer and/or flatter board.

At 170 you are probably good @105 -- but there's nothing wrong with having more volume in your small wave/grovel board.   The 7'6" @ 100 might get a little fatiguing and having the extra 6 inches of length will help you get into more waves.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on October 10, 2017, 05:29:01 PM
Badger - I actually have a similar board (JP Surf Wide 7'4 x31", 110L), although I'd say the JL is probably much more refined, and eventually I"ll upgrade to the Super Frank.

I really have a blast on the Surf Wide in short-period, wind chop type of waves, it's really easy to get to the tail, and I have no issues at all with stability. Keep in mind - I'm generally riding it in less than ideal conditions.

With that said, I really never take it out in bigger waves (over chest high) or when it's super clean, I'd ride the SuperTech now or the B&B if it's small and clean.

Knowing your quiver - I'd go with the 7'6" x 31", no worries with the stabiliity at 7'6", and if you are going to go short, for a grovelly type board, may as well go all the way.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2017, 06:03:38 PM
When the dealer canceled the order for the 7'6, it wasn't clear if the cancellation got through in time. So the 7'6 may still arrive and I'll get to see it. If that's the case then I will more than likely take it.

If there is no 7'6 in the shipment, I will go ahead and order the 8'0 if Jimmy expects to get more in stock.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 10, 2017, 11:26:19 PM
Badger - I actually have a similar board (JP Surf Wide 7'4 x31", 110L), although I'd say the JL is probably much more refined, and eventually I"ll upgrade to the Super Frank.

I really have a blast on the Surf Wide in short-period, wind chop type of waves, it's really easy to get to the tail, and I have no issues at all with stability. Keep in mind - I'm generally riding it in less than ideal conditions.

With that said, I really never take it out in bigger waves (over chest high) or when it's super clean, I'd ride the SuperTech now or the B&B if it's small and clean.

Knowing your quiver - I'd go with the 7'6" x 31", no worries with the stabiliity at 7'6", and if you are going to go short, for a grovelly type board, may as well go all the way.

Good luck.

My only concern now with the 7'6 x 31" is that it might feel too wide, as if I cut 16" off the nose of my 8'10 x 31" Flow.

The 8'10 Sunova Flow is by far the better grovel board over the 8'4 Flow which comparatively has difficulty catching anything under waist high, but the 8'10 feels more cumbersome and less maneuverable in small waves.

How does the width of your 7'4 JP affect the ride? Do you feel that it limits the board at all? Does the shorter length help make up for it?

If you upgrade to the Super Frank, which size would you get?



Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on October 11, 2017, 04:36:11 AM
Badger - I actually have a similar board (JP Surf Wide 7'4 x31", 110L), although I'd say the JL is probably much more refined, and eventually I"ll upgrade to the Super Frank.

I really have a blast on the Surf Wide in short-period, wind chop type of waves, it's really easy to get to the tail, and I have no issues at all with stability. Keep in mind - I'm generally riding it in less than ideal conditions.

With that said, I really never take it out in bigger waves (over chest high) or when it's super clean, I'd ride the SuperTech now or the B&B if it's small and clean.

Knowing your quiver - I'd go with the 7'6" x 31", no worries with the stabiliity at 7'6", and if you are going to go short, for a grovelly type board, may as well go all the way.

Good luck.

My only concern now with the 7'6 x 31" is that it might feel too wide, as if I cut 16" off the nose of my 8'10 x 31" Flow.

The 8'10 Sunova Flow is by far the better grovel board over the 8'4 Flow which comparatively has difficulty catching anything under waist high, but the 8'10 feels more cumbersome and less maneuverable in small waves.

How does the width of your 7'4 JP affect the ride? Do you feel that it limits the board at all? Does the shorter length help make up for it?

If you upgrade to the Super Frank, which size would you get?

Yeah, I'd go with the 7'6" x 31, but I have had to change my thought process on catching waves with the smaller board. At that short of a length, and with the JP the board yaws side to side pretty quickly, so I just get used to catching waves later than usual. Really, my approach stroke to catch a wave decreases as my board gets shorter, but with the 7'4" it's maybe 2 or 3 quick strokes and I'm on the wave. That's what makes it perfect for short period, bumpy surf.

It works, and the fact that you can get to the tail so quick makes it really fun. With regard to the width, I really don't feel it as much with regard to on the wave, because the rails aren't really thick and frankly, I need the width to have stability. It would be perfect to have like a 7'6" x 30" sitting around 108 or so L, but if I had to choose between going down to 7'6" or losing width, I'd drop down 7'6" just to fill out my quiver.

I'd talk to Marlon about it, he's been really helpful when I've had questions.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 11, 2017, 07:30:09 AM

I'll bet the 7'6 x 31" Wide and 8'0 x 30" Lean have about the same stability.

The 8'0 should have a little more glide and wave catching ability. The 7'6 is probably a bit more maneuverable on the wave. Both are good things and the negative aspects if any between the two boards are likely small.

Since I prefer early entry over late takeoffs, I'm leaning toward the 8'0 but I'm not cancelling out the 7'6. I'm sure I'll end up with one or the other.

Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: NorthJerzSurfer on October 11, 2017, 09:00:32 AM
Badger-  have your ridden /considered the Hypernut?  I have the 7'4 @ 105l at my 215lbs.

I also can only ride it in perfect conditions- and without winter gear.  If you are looking for a small wave machine at 170lb it might be a good choice.  I love it in the right conditions- it just happens too infrequently. (Trade? Hmm Hmm:)

  I myself was thinking about getting rid of it to get something back in the 115l-120l range so i can use it with a wetsuit and in choppier conditions and the super frank was one of those considered.

Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: surfshaver on October 11, 2017, 10:37:57 AM
I'd go with the 8'0".  Once you get 8 feet and under, small differences in length matter.  The sweet spot for balance becomes much smaller and all of your movements need to be more compact and precise.  Going down from an 8'4" to an 8'0" should be not much adjustment, but 7'6" could be more challenging.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 11, 2017, 03:18:35 PM
Badger-  have your ridden /considered the Hypernut?  I have the 7'4 @ 105l at my 215lbs.

I also can only ride it in perfect conditions- and without winter gear.  If you are looking for a small wave machine at 170lb it might be a good choice.  I love it in the right conditions- it just happens too infrequently. (Trade? Hmm Hmm:)

  I myself was thinking about getting rid of it to get something back in the 115l-120l range so i can use it with a wetsuit and in choppier conditions and the super frank was one of those considered.

I looked at the Hypernuts online a few months ago but haven't considered them since I got interested in the Super Frank.

It was the claims of shortboard stability that sparked my interest in the SF. One problem I have with my 8'4 Flow is that it's too unstable to ride except on very clean days. The other complaint is that it's sluggish on small waves. I'm thinking the the SF might be slightly more stable. I paddled a 7'2 x 30.5  102L custom last week and it didn't seem too bad.

The HN 7'4 and 7'8 do have a nice shape but they don't look as stable as the SF. It's impossible to say without standing on one.

Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: NorthJerzSurfer on October 11, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
they probably are similar- as someone on this thread mentioned- going under 8' really adds the the 'front to back' stability issues regardless of shape. but once you nail it- its amazing what under 8 boards do on a wave.

the SF looks like a better version of the  pocket rocket shape.   Badger- if you are ever down near NJ you are free to try my HN.   I have to keep a paddle in the water @ 215lbs- but I dont have to be moving to balance.   should be more than stable for you at 170.   

The HN is 106l and I tried a 'tradtional' shape at 7'11 110l and i couldn't stand on it for a second.





Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 11, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
I'd go with the 8'0".  Once you get 8 feet and under, small differences in length matter.  The sweet spot for balance becomes much smaller and all of your movements need to be more compact and precise.  Going down from an 8'4" to an 8'0" should be not much adjustment, but 7'6" could be more challenging.

I agree. I'm pretty sure I could handle the 7'6 but the 8'0 would be easier which would allow it to cover a wider range of conditions.

I still haven't heard from the shop if I canceled my order in time before they put the 7'6 on the truck. I wouldn't feel right refusing the board if it shows up. It can't be returned to the warehouse and it's not a board they could easily sell.

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on October 11, 2017, 03:53:43 PM
Yeah, I'd still take the advantages of going down to 7'6" over the drawbacks of the decreased glide and width. It's just so much fun to snap a sub-8' board around, I can do a lot of things on the 7'6" that I can't do on a larger board.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 12, 2017, 01:42:33 AM
I really think I'd be happy with either board.

The 8'0 has the advantage of slightly more glide but I don't mind the challenges of going shorter. The 7'6 might be a little be less stable but will also be more maneuverable. Having the wide point a bit forward of center should help the board feel not overly wide when turning.


Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 13, 2017, 03:25:08 PM
Turns out I didn't cancel the order in time so it looks like I'm getting the 7'6.

It should be here within a few days. I can't wait to try it. I think it will be a fun board.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Mmac on October 14, 2017, 09:37:08 AM
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: beached on October 14, 2017, 12:36:04 PM
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.

my Hypernut at 31.5" wide is the fastest board i've ever been on. wide doesn't necessarily = slow.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on October 15, 2017, 06:09:48 AM
My new surfboard should be here tomorrow! I'll do a review after a few sessions.

These are some good shots of the shape.  7'6 x 31" 115 liters

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-deck-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-bottom-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-side-orange.jpg

Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on October 16, 2017, 07:39:52 AM
My new surfboard should be here tomorrow! I'll do a review after a few sessions.

These are some good shots of the shape.  7'6 x 31" 115 liters

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-deck-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-bottom-orange.jpg

http://jimmylewis.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/frank-side-orange.jpg

I think you are really going to like it, the tail is pulled in nice. Let me know how it goes.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: coldsup on October 16, 2017, 11:27:27 AM
Hope you like it, I'd like to hear how it compares.  I usually don't like wide boards because I've found them to be slow but it will be interesting to hear how the regular SuperFrank rides since I haven't tried one.

my Hypernut at 31.5" wide is the fastest board i've ever been on. wide doesn't necessarily = slow.

 Agree... shortidh wide boards are not It the fastest to paddle but on a wave they can really motor....
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on June 13, 2018, 06:51:33 AM
Ok, I'm now debating the same - 78 kg, I've got a 8'8" SuperTech for chest+, but most of my waves are below that and mushy. I had a 7'4" JP Surf Wide that is comparable, but I sold it because I felt like it was a bit too wide (31"), 112L and yaw'ed quite a bit, that and I like JL boards.

So, I'm trying to decide between the 7'6" and 8' lean, I really don't have a ton of interest in going to the wider "regular" model, I like a thin rail, and 31" seems too wide. I'm just a bit worried with the 7'6" at 100L that it will be tricky in onshore, mixed up conditions.

Any thoughts? Ha, and I really am starting to have a problem trading/buying/selling boards constantly, but I really like trying new equipment and I feel like SUP surfing and having the right board for the conditions makes a fairly big difference in how much fun you are going to have.

So - as it stands now, my quiver would be:

10'1" Black and Blue - Noseriding/longboarding
8'8" SuperTech - chest+
7'6" or 8' Super Frank - anything below chest+ and I want to ride something that I can pivot/turn really quick in smaller waves (as opposed to the B&B when I want to noseride/longboard style)

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: eastbound on June 13, 2018, 09:18:11 AM
review??
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on June 13, 2018, 10:43:56 AM
review??

Badger posted on for the 7'6 regular somewhere on here.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: LBsup on June 13, 2018, 11:56:47 AM
(http://Hi all,

I’ve had the 8’6 x32’ SF for a month or so and can say it’s the best sup I’ve owned to date.  I find it extremely maneuverable, easily pumps down the line and easy to turn.  Backside surfing is great, s-turns and cutbacks rebounding off the whitewater feels easier than any board I’ve owned.  This is the smallest sup I’ve had so I’m sure the shorter length makes turning and such easier.  Paddles great and like someone mentioned I can paddle hard for a wave and not worry about digging the rail.  Unlike others I only ride one board and this is the “one”, it’s a keeper for me for sure.  I have no plans on going shorter or narrower because I ride one board I want stability in all conditions and this SF gives me that.  The insert handle is the best and the board is light.  I ride it as a quad plus a true Ames small fin.  I’ve heard JimmyLewis sups are bullet proof so I was surprised it sustained two small dents on the upper deck not sure how.  I’ve since covered the deck with RSPro patches and rail guard, I want this one to last.

Me: 54 yrs old, 5’9 ish, 205,fairly fit.  Regular surfer for over 30 y, sup surf 5.)
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: LBsup on June 13, 2018, 11:58:04 AM
Hi all,

I’ve had the 8’6 x32’ SF for a month or so and can say it’s the best sup I’ve owned to date.  I find it extremely maneuverable, easily pumps down the line and easy to turn.  Backside surfing is great, s-turns and cutbacks rebounding off the whitewater feels easier than any board I’ve owned.  This is the smallest sup I’ve had so I’m sure the shorter length makes turning and such easier.  Paddles great and like someone mentioned I can paddle hard for a wave and not worry about digging the rail.  Unlike others I only ride one board and this is the “one”, it’s a keeper for me for sure.  I have no plans on going shorter or narrower because I ride one board I want stability in all conditions and this SF gives me that.  The insert handle is the best and the board is light.  I ride it as a quad plus a true Ames small fin.  I’ve heard JimmyLewis sups are bullet proof so I was surprised it sustained two small dents on the upper deck not sure how.  I’ve since covered the deck with RSPro patches and rail guard, I want this one to last.

Me: 54 yrs old, 5’9 ish, 205,fairly fit.  Regular surfer for over 30 y, sup surf 5.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: LBsup on June 13, 2018, 11:59:42 AM
Haha, not sure what happened but the above pic and review got separated!  Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Dusk Patrol on June 13, 2018, 12:51:18 PM
LB congrats on finding the one. I noticed the denting on JL boards. There wouldn't be cracks or creases or chips, but sometimes little dents, But even then, not many and not often.     
Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: Badger on June 14, 2018, 08:38:11 AM
review??

Badger posted on for the 7'6 regular somewhere on here.

This is the review I did back in December.  It's my favorite board for small days up to about head high.

https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,32873.msg369422.html#msg369422

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Title: Re: Jimmy Lewis Super Frank?
Post by: APPST_Paddle on June 14, 2018, 09:00:16 AM
Yeah, I think I'm going with the 7'6 lean, the 100L scares me a bit, but........given the width and the shape, I think it will be a bit more forgiving than a traditional shape at 100L. I'd rather have a bit of challenge early on then get a board and think that it's too wide or too long.
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