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General => The Shape Shack => Topic started by: Noo Noo on September 28, 2017, 07:22:59 AM
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Rather odd question perhaps but there's sense in the madness.
I have a Starboard Widepoint 11'2" which has delaminated near the nose. This is a warranty issue and is currently being addressed with Starboard via the dealer I purchased the board from. Now Starboard have asked for lots of photos and even request I cut a hole in the delaminated area and photograph that. That's done.
Now they're requesting that I cut the board in half and photograph that for them. Not sure why exactly but I may (I cant see them wanting the board back in two pieces) end up with two bits of a SUP to dispose of. Kind of a waste I thought. So I was thinking of chopping the nose off, through the delaminated area and photograph that for them.
I was then wondering if it's possible to do something with the big bit left over. It'll be way over 8 feet long and might, long shot, but might make a nice little surf SUP or board for the little one when he's a little older.
Thoughts anyone? Anyone had any similar experiences and would greatly appreciate any advice on what's possible
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Anything is possible if you have some shaping skills or are willing to just go for it. The latter is what we like.
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,21335.0.html
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Anything is possible if you have some shaping skills or are willing to just go for it. The latter is what we like.
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,21335.0.html
Cheers. Definitely willing to give it a go. Such a shame to just bin it when there might be something very very useful that can come from it. Plus Starboard owe me for a weekend of lost SUPing. I dont get many chances and this binned another opportunity.
I've seen a couple of vids now on surf board / SUP repairs including one that had snapped in half. So I'm encouraged by what might be possible.
I'll try and get a few pictures together to see what people's thoughts are on here including what might be feasible.
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I've stripped and reglassed a much smaller board made of poly foam which is way more rigid than EPS. I'll never do it again. Blanks are too cheap.
I'd say cut it and then put it back together but reshaping the back 8' of a board into something to stand up paddle seems like a lot of work. (Unless you wanted to make a weird foil board out of it.)
The foam is only worth $100 or so. But, that said, I've done sillier things. See what you can do. We will cheer you on and answer questions.
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Yeah, what the hell. I'd make a chopped nose board out of it. Leave the tail and rails as they are and just smooth out and tuck the nose.
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...Now they're requesting that I cut the board in half and photograph that for them. Not sure why exactly but I may (I cant see them wanting the board back in two pieces) end up with two bits of a SUP to dispose of. Kind of a waste I thought...
It does seem wasteful but that appears to be the industry standard for dealing with returns. Suggest you get clarification from them that they are sending you a replacement.
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There was a guy who I used to see at SanO with an older starboard 10' ish board with about a foot broken off the nose. So was probably around 9' or less. He used some spray foam to make the busted off edge not so sharp, and glassed it all bumpy and clear. It was fugly and asymmetrical, but he just kept surfing it. He said it surfed better than it did before ;D
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Cut the board in half and send a picture...Sounds like their way of making sure you will not be using the board again and your not just pulling a fast one on them cheaper then mailing it back....When I use to deal with fish we would on occasion get some dead ones ..industry standard for replacement or refund was to cut the heads off and send pics.
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Rather odd question perhaps but there's sense in the madness.
I have a Starboard Widepoint 11'2" which has delaminated near the nose. This is a warranty issue and is currently being addressed with Starboard via the dealer I purchased the board from. Now Starboard have asked for lots of photos and even request I cut a hole in the delaminated area and photograph that. That's done.
Now they're requesting that I cut the board in half and photograph that for them. Not sure why exactly but I may (I cant see them wanting the board back in two pieces) end up with two bits of a SUP to dispose of. Kind of a waste I thought. So I was thinking of chopping the nose off, through the delaminated area and photograph that for them.
I was then wondering if it's possible to do something with the big bit left over. It'll be way over 8 feet long and might, long shot, but might make a nice little surf SUP or board for the little one when he's a little older.
Thoughts anyone? Anyone had any similar experiences and would greatly appreciate any advice on what's possible
Its to make sure you don't try and sell the board on for profit or to keep using a defective board when you have a new one on the way. I had to warranty my Naish One inflatable earlier this year and they made me run shears right through the middle of it and send them a photo (as well as sending back the valve).
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Hi all and thanks for the replies.
yes speaking to the dealer it's basically so the board isn't used on the water again. Brutal but understandable. They will ship out another board. So I'll have to get the saw out.
I'll post some very sad pictures when done and start looking at options for converting it into something else. A smaller board for me or the little one will be a welcome addition.
Not 100% sure how to go about it yet. I suspect the EPS core will just shred when I touch it with a sander or something.
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Glue it back together with Gorilla Glue and use it as the backsplash for an outdoor shower. You can make up a great story to explain the glue line.
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two boogie boards for local kids...... :)
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Just because a bulldog can whip a skunk does not mean it should.(channeling my inner okie)
Cut it in half maybe with a nice shark bite cut out and hang it behind the bar.
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Do what they requested. Cut in two........ right down the middle longways down the board and take pictures......Glue a stringer in fix the delam.....done. Note......I really have no idea what I am talking about. Never done a major repair.
Bob
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saw this from Sam Pae but basically could do the same thing with what ever cut you had to make because of the factory return
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F*ck that noise! Just photoshop the board as chopped and move along.
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Hi All
I'm back and still looking at my options here. Long story short I had to cut the damaged board and after a few wranglings which took far too long I've got my money back and I'll never buy a new Starboard again.
So I'm back in the market for a new board and I'm leaning towards the JP Fusion 9' 8" which feels like a decent option for me right now. A board that will get me back on the water and get me catching waves with room to grow.
But I still have this lump in the garage which I could bin but my inclination to fiddle is always there.
I short, when I cut the board I only cut off about 2-3 feet off the nose. So I've basically got an 8'6" long rear section of a Widepoint with the nose cut square. I'll post a picture up when I get a chance.
So question is are there any suggestions for reshaping the nose of this contraption into something that
a) Might actually catch a wave or two
b) Ultimately might partner the new JP Fusion
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Especially if you made a clean cut, you could very definitely put it back together again. Treating it like a complete snap is easier than trying to make a shorter board. Going shorter would mean not only dealing with the nose "shape" but also a radical change in the rocker. The link below is for a soft top but gives you a good idea of the process.
http://www.boardlady.com/softsnap.htm
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Why thank you old Bean ;D
Good suggestion and yes, the cut is very clean as I cut it with a saw. Heartbreaking to be honest
Other than the size and weight I did like the board so there's a lot of sense in your suggestion.
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Noo Noo
There's kind of a nice surf movie called Drift (Now on Netflix) , and it goes thru all the reshaping thing as part of the story line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEwsKORMQ8
You definitely could reshape, but...
1. Messy unless you are "Experienced"....More money than you think for a One-off
2. EPS is not much fun to shape
3. You'll need much more rocker in the nose than you will get if you just glass off (as Bean stated)...so you would probably have to remove glass at least another foot or so back then taper etc.
4. Kinda screaming 7 'foil board to me....but now you're into 20 hours+ and for what...you got money back....best to let go...find some kid to burden
Coffee table?
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If you take Eva's approach, you can substitue gorilla glue where she uses 2 part urethane and of course you will not have any of the EVA softpad to deal with. I would even follow suit and do a contrast band (spray paint) to wrap things up.
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Noo Noo
There's kind of a nice surf movie called Drift (Now on Netflix) , and it goes thru all the reshaping thing as part of the story line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGEwsKORMQ8
You definitely could reshape, but...
1. Messy unless you are "Experienced"....More money than you think for a One-off
2. EPS is not much fun to shape
3. You'll need much more rocker in the nose than you will get if you just glass off (as Bean stated)...so you would probably have to remove glass at least another foot or so back then taper etc.
4. Kinda screaming 7 'foil board to me....but now you're into 20 hours+ and for what...you got money back....best to let go...find some kid to burden
Coffee table?
Completely agree, there's naff all sense to the idea whatsoever other than feeding my curiosity.
And I agree on the rocker front but I had in mind stripping back the glass and adding another piece of EPS on top before shaping and new glass.
Plus if I wanted to shape it into a more traditional rounded / pointy surf nose I'd probably have to strip a good bit more than a foot of glass off it. Just to accommodate the new shape.
Bonus is, I'm in no rush here, I've got plenty on my plate as it is already. If it happens it happens if not it can go in the skip later. Just pondering what can be achieved and ideas on shape at the moment.
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If you take Eva's approach, you can substitue gorilla glue where she uses 2 part urethane and of course you will not have any of the EVA softpad to deal with. I would even follow suit and do a contrast band (spray paint) to wrap things up.
Cheers.