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Title: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: jrandy on March 22, 2017, 02:37:43 PM
Hello Everyone-
I was made aware of this during lifeguard training. If you have a minute and 3 seconds...
Thanks, Jim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCRKMWjb4LE
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: Bean on March 22, 2017, 06:18:51 PM
Great post Jim!
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: PonoBill on March 22, 2017, 09:27:58 PM
Nice, though they could get the video well under a minute by canning the goofy intro.
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: yugi on March 23, 2017, 01:05:14 AM
In case you were wondering about the rhythm you should sing the chorus from Saturday Night Fever. The “ah ah ah ah” part is apparently the perfect rhythm.

“Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive”

https://youtu.be/Fa9n7GirhsI



Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: lucabrasi on March 23, 2017, 06:45:42 AM
Question.  Years ago you would blow air into the incapacitated person. Can't remember the exact ratio but 3-5 to start, 5-10 chest pumps, 2-3 breaths, chest pumps, breaths, and on.
How come the breathing part has gone away? Does getting the heart pumping again take care of that?
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: PonoBill on March 23, 2017, 07:57:20 AM
Still OK if you have two people, but chest compressions adequate to pump the heart also pump the lungs. People were stopping compression to rescue breathe, and that's proven to reduce blood oxygenation. The biggest issue is compressing hard enough. The delicate shoving you see on TV dramas is to keep the "victim" from yelling "OUCH!! Too hard". You've got to get your shoulders into it. Broken breastbones are not uncommon with CPR done effectively.
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: mrbig on March 23, 2017, 10:57:34 AM
CPR saved my life! My ribs which were cracked from a baseball collision a long time ago hurt like hell. Right at the sternum. For weeks. Kept me awake.

Alive and well. It's all about keeping a blood supply going to the brain..

 ;D  ;D   ;D   ;D   ;D

Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2017, 11:42:11 AM
Four years  ago  I  save  a fellow  surfer's  life  using  that technic . We propped  him on my Sup and i gave  him  compressions  while trying  to  get  him  to  shore .  No way  we  could  have  also  gave  him  breaths
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2017, 11:42:50 AM
Four years  ago  I  save  a fellow  surfer's  life  using  that technic . We propped  him on my Sup and i gave  him  compressions  while trying  to  get  him  to  shore .  No way  we  could  have  also  gave  him  breaths
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: jrandy on March 23, 2017, 01:10:41 PM
Staying alive, yes! My instructor mentioned that this one works too, which is a little darker but still ironic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE)

You just need to find something in that 100-120 beats per minute.

American Red Cross is still using ventilation, rescuer uses a mask with a one way valve for protection against pathogens, vomit, etc.  30 compressions then 2 breaths, 5-6 seconds apart for an adult, 3 seconds for a child. Breaths come first if it is a drowning situation.  There is more to it that what I am writing here, their entire manual is available free online.

So if you lack the mask you can still do compressions while the EMT's are called and on their way in.
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: Tom on March 23, 2017, 01:31:55 PM
here's the post I posted after it happened

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Myself and two other surfers just saved a surfer’s life
« on: March 14, 2011, 01:46:33 PM »
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When you paddle out, you just never know how your session is going to be. The surf today was looking ok, maybe chest high, short duration swell, and the fog was starting to move in. I almost didn’t go out, but decided I would. The place I surf, Sunset Cliffs, is accessed by a 100 step staircase and the break is about 100 yards off shore.  There were only two of us out, myself on my SUP and a guy on a fish. With the fog, you really couldn’t see the shore but could see the waves coming.

I heard a female yelling help from a different break, but couldn’t see her. I paddled towards her and asked what was happening. She yelled that someone had a heart attack and was drowning. I yelled for the other surfer to help and then could see that my friend Paula was struggling with some one in the water. I recognized him as someone who surfs there often, but I didn’t know him. Paula had found him floating lifeless with his head in the water and his leash attached to his long board.  She had his face out of the water, but he wasn’t conscious and was too heavy for her to manage. She, the other surfer, and I got him up on my SUP, but he wasn’t breathing. I gave him chest compressions for quite a while while we wee taking him towards shore and he spit up some foam and started to breath a bit. We were out far enough that no one on shore could see us because of the fog. Paula paddled into shore to get someone to call 911 while the other surfer and I paddled him towards shore and I continued to give him chest compressions. He occasionally would come to, but really wasn’t conscious very long, but he kept spitting up foam.  The lifeguard station is maybe 10 miles away and finally a lifeguard got to us on a rescue board. A few minutes later, the lifeguard boat arrived and we all got him into the boat. He came to when they were lifting him into the boat, and could almost sit up by his self.  Later, the life guards that had drive up said that they got a call from the station and it sounds like he will be alright.

postscript- Turns out his wetsuit pinched his carotid artery which shut off the blood to his brain. He's okay now with a pacemaker that kicks in when and if it happens again.
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: addapost on December 02, 2017, 03:49:12 PM
Gonna comment and bring this one back to life.* CPR protocols for non-professional civilians have been getting easier and easier for about 20 years now. My understanding is that "they" ARC, AHA, ect. have figured it is better to have more folks with less training out there than less folks with more training. In the old days you used to have to pass a pretty tough test, both written and practical, to get certified. Different numbers for different aged patients, one rescuer vs two, blah blah blah. Turned out who gives a shit. People were not into trying to remember 15/2 for adults, 5/1 with 2 rescuers etc. They still require that for professionals but for Joe and Jane Civilian it is better to just get them to do something, anything than nothing. Another factor is almost no one is going to put their mouth on a stranger's so people would just stand there watching folks go blue and cold. If you give people the option of at least doing compressions and not really caring about the count (just do the Bee Gees thing) then folks will generally do that. Finally, doing chest compressions actually does move some air in and out of the lungs so there is that.

*see what I did there?
Title: Re: Hands-only CPR video (push here to save a life dot com)
Post by: PonoBill on December 02, 2017, 07:24:52 PM
Compression is the big deal, and if you think you might be pressing too hard you are almost there. Pump hard, pump fast, don't stop until relieved.
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