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Stand Up Paddle => Gear Talk => Topic started by: yugi on January 12, 2015, 06:44:13 AM

Title: Laird Surrator
Post by: yugi on January 12, 2015, 06:44:13 AM
so it begins...

http://vimeo.com/116031138
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: PonoBill on January 12, 2015, 07:50:10 AM
Very interesting, I look forward to trying one. I'm sure it will be successful and copied. As I've said before (I get the feeling I copied the phrase though), if Laird wore jockey shorts on his head, you'd be seeing half the people in Paia wearing them, and someone would come out with the SkivvyHat(tm)
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: southwesterly on January 12, 2015, 08:11:53 AM
The big advantage of having surrator rails is that it locks the straps in place when tying your board on top of your car. 
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: kayadogg on January 12, 2015, 08:20:13 AM
At the end of the video, it says Surrator Rail Traction (Patent pending).  If the patent is successful, does that mean nobody else can use that design for rails?
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: PonoBill on January 12, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Given the current state of the patent office (politically driven and crazy) they might grant the patent. Even if they don't, during the pending period it's hazardous to copy the design. So yes, it will be a while before someone knocks it off with a production board. Customs maybe, but production, no.
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: yugi on January 12, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
^ That's the theory, yes.

But, as Zane's gramps could tell you, if some Baron somewhere hires a field of clever lawyers they might find a crack in the logic, then Laird could get screwed.
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: yugi on January 12, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
The big advantage of having surrator rails is that it locks the straps in place when tying your board on top of your car.

Good one, and a big ding on your rail won't make you cry any more.
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: SUPcheat on January 12, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
When will they patent fins on top,too, so you can have a Swiss Army Board?

Don't think you would have a problem customizing your own board with pinking shears as long as you don't market and mass produce the concept for the public.
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: JimK on January 12, 2015, 10:07:33 AM
As someone who owns a patent
Patents are only as good as the amount of money you have to defend it!

I didn't have enough $$$

JimK
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: standuped on January 12, 2015, 11:05:20 AM
As someone who owns a patent
Patents are only as good as the amount of money you have to defend it!

I didn't have enough $$$

JimK

Been there
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: Kaihoe on January 12, 2015, 11:58:26 AM
Its going to have to be a really tightly written patent given Laird spend the first half of the video talking about how common serrated edges are in some really similar applications
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: Tom on January 12, 2015, 12:26:57 PM
I'm  not  sure  about  the  surat or , but I  do  like  the  shape  a lot .
Title: Re: Laird Surrator
Post by: PonoBill on January 12, 2015, 02:38:46 PM
As someone who owns a patent
Patents are only as good as the amount of money you have to defend it!

I didn't have enough $$$

JimK

That's why there's trolls. If you have a valuable patent that you don't care to defend you can turn it over to a bunch of starving Chicago lawyers for a piece of whatever they extract. The legion of underemployed lawyers is waiting your call. The cost to defend works both ways though. Unless someone is already spending serious money with lawyers they won't lawyer up just to screw you out of something relatively trivial. There's no real money in that design, so it won't matter, and Laird has enough bucks to get tough if he wants to. Hell, he could just sic his publicist on them. I'd rather battle a pit bull over a pork chop than go up against her.
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