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Stand Up Paddle => Gear Talk => Topic started by: lunchbox on November 07, 2014, 10:35:47 PM
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Checked out the SIC web site today after hearing a friend of a friend boast about how good his Recon surfed. I think he has the 9'9" recon. From what I hear, this guys lives to SUP and goes through boards like no ones business, so to hear him mention that it's the best SUP he's ever surfed, has definitely sparked my interest.
Although I couldn't find it on the SIC site, it looks like they have a 9'4" as well. I'm not sure why it's not listed...was it replaced by the 9'9" or maybe the 9'4" is last years model?
The 9'9" looks geared more toward smaller to larger sized waves with it's fuller nose and square tail while the 9'4" with it's narrower nose and pintail might be geared more towards larger waves.
Would anyone with knowledge of the recon line care to shed some light on these two sizes, how they surf and what type of wave and wave size would be best served by each of them?
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I've been struggling with wanting to get another board from BC, difficult from here. Then recently a zoner posted up a pic of a SIC recon in action and I realized I gotta find the dealer here. Same Hawaiian roots. You can trust the board will work.
The outlines are very surfable and the construction looks solid.
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Yes, the 9-9 looks like it would fit better on a larger wave. A 9-4 was a nice size for this shape. A 8-8 as well would be nice.
The thing I like about my PSH boards is that considered alone, the last bit from in front of the fins to the tail, resembles a short board. Pulled in and thinned, very rippable.
These SIC boards seem to have the same shape.
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Looks to me that the 9'4" is a 2013 Model..no more available.
The 9'9" was available in 2013 and 2014
I am Picking up a couple Bullets Next Week and can grab the Recon for you.
It is a Demo Board so depending on condition Cheap this week....
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Well Trader Cbig just sold my Rawson 9'4" as 150 liters no longer was what I needed.
Step two was to trade my 8'8" Angulo Surfa as 32" has become a little wide these days.
BOOM! I am now the proud owner of a 2013 SIC Recon 9. It is 9'4" x 29" x 3 3/4" x 123 liters. It is the lighter semi-carbon construction; am planning on running it as a quad.
Can't wait to get this bad boy out in some waves and will update when I have ridden it!
Shout out to Tim at Ocean House in Swampscott for doing the trade. And he does have more Imagine Snaps available. Also saw a Starboard that Ake G. had traded towards a JP!! 8) 8)
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Nice board! I have a lightly used one for sale in Portland, ME. if anyone is looking. They are not easy to find.
Raf
owner of Soposup
www.soposup.com
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I really like the look of 2015 Bully SIC shape. I understand the board is an older model.
Anybody care to right a review on the "Bully" to be used by a heavyweight?
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Congratulations Mr Big...can't wait to hear your review. I was seriously looking at that board for my waist to head high conditions. That tail has me a little curious. It appears it is meant for chest high to bigger waves and I'd imagine that tail would really stick nice on the face. At the same time, I'm thinking it's got to turn on a dime as well? Be interesting to get your take on it after you've ridden it. In addition, I would be curious to hear how it compares to the 9'4" Rawson as that board was also on my list.
I'm trying to save up for that 9'5" fish at the moment.
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Well Trader Cbig just sold my Rawson 9'4" as 150 liters no longer was what I needed.
Step two was to trade my 8'8" Angulo Surfa as 32" has become a little wide these days.
BOOM! I am now the proud owner of a 2013 SIC Recon 9. It is 9'4" x 29" x 3 3/4" x 123 liters. It is the lighter semi-carbon construction; am planning on running it as a quad.
Can't wait to get this bad boy out in some waves and will update when I have ridden it!
Shout out to Tim at Ocean House in Swampscott for doing the trade. And he does have more Imagine Snaps available. Also saw a Starboard that Ake G. had traded towards a JP!! 8) 8)
I think Mr.Big may need an intervention.... ;) but who am I to talk....
Congrats on the new ride. Those sic recon boards with the semi-custom carbon and exposed plywood bottom are such nice builds! (That's the build, right?)
I have experience with the 10'6" recon. Had it out once on a chest high day and surfed the hell out of it....so very fast in all aspects in good surf but not as good in smaller, mushy surf as was expected. However, I was way too light for the board to sink the rail effectively, clearly designed or much bigger guys than me.
Looking forward to your review I'll bet you'll like it!
Tim's a great guy (excellent customer service) and has some very nice boards in his shop in Swampscott. Worth the trip!
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Looks to me that the 9'4" is a 2013 Model..no more available.
The 9'9" was available in 2013 and 2014
I am Picking up a couple Bullets Next Week and can grab the Recon for you.
It is a Demo Board so depending on condition Cheap this week....
9'9" SIC Recon
I usually ride much shorter boards but I had a chance to demo one for 5 days...
Anything from knee slappers to overhead on this demo..
Man this thing just kills it.
I was able to paddle to the next peak (way over) to catch set waves..
Amazing the distance you can cover quickly with this board.
Nice refined rails for a production board..holds and accelerates.
Throws around pretty good too..
Able to stroke in from pretty far outside..
Had offshore wind on most days, some more than others..
Board has lift in these conditions..makes it more lively.
The nose whistles in the head wind when I the nose hits certain angles..weird..
At first I thought it was the fins, but it wasn't..
With no wind, no whistle..
This size board with the thin tail pulled through waves nicely with the SLH (Safety Leash Handle)
Might be my next big wave board...
Anyone want the 9'8" Starboard Superfish?
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Well the surf gods decided to deliver a nice waist to chest headhigh set off shore glassy testing venue in NH. YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
The SIC is sick. paddles fast going out and catching waves. Bonus - it so thin and low volume I paddled (have to prone it going out) through the shorebreak really easily. Almost, but not really, duck diveable.
Catching waves was interesting at first, a pintail that is really thin, doesn't respond well to late drops the way my diamond, and squash tails do. Had to surf more off my front foot to engage the flat spot which is NOT anywhere near the tail.
What a great feeling of control and carve ability is there. So loose, but stable. I saw a picture of Jeremy Riggs dropping in on a BEG WAN. Amazing.
As a winter big (not GIANT) wave board it is exactly what I wanted. Perfect in every way. I need to remember my black suit pintail pony tail days and I will figure out to get it to go a little faster in gutless waves.
BUT that is what my King's 7'11" is for!
It came as a quad and I did put larger fins in!
I love this board! It does CHIP though.. 8)
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I agree with Ake G, intervention needed.
Cleveland,
Felt the same way after surfing Little Maks today on the JL Stun Gun (9'2"). Had a thruster set in it today, but going to put quad in for DOH tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes. Congrats on the new board and it looks like your quiver list is going through some major changes.
Mahalo my friend.
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The Exuberant Mr. Big called yesterday to discuss fin options..
Dude is Super Stoked...
Isn't that cool how somethings get you super excited !
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Yes I did! Check these bad boys out!
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Well I have had the Recon out a couple of times now and it is a great board. I did replace the stock fins with FCS HI and that helped with my initial issues in smaller waves.
After harassing many folks decided to focus on my feet placement. Clearly in small waves you stay forward of the fins and push on the front foot where the volume is.
On larger waves you need to be back a little as it can pearl (don't ask don't tell) on take-off as it does not have a lot of nose rocker.
Two sessions in NH, and one in RI have proven it is a great winter board. Still modifying my stomp on the tail and go technique which works on ALL of my other boards; particularly my King's and my Rawson customs.
It is so smooth, stable, and the bigger it gets the better it gets. Brochure says it is designed for 4 to 8 feet. On Maui! Hah! Solid 4 so far in NH. Old man haole 10 on the drop, we do not surf the back of the wave!
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Can you post pictures of the top, bottom and side (rocker profile) Please..
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Hey Big,
Sounds like you're having fun figuring out that puzzle of a new board. When all else fails, I like to rely on something called "Positive pessimism's". For example: It may be cold, but at least it's windy! OR It may be hard to surf, but it least it doesn't turn! Even a Saint like you deserves a bit of razzing, have fun my friend. J
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Rocker for Ralph!
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Sweeta Da Meeta
Thanks Big
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Waves in NH on the small day. Thanx to Ralph's Pics!
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mrbig... Looks like a freeway pileup where a semi is jackknifed.
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Yep. Like the proner on his butt! BUT the waves were good for RECON testing!
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is the 9'9 Recon a quiver killer? IE, can do it all from small to OH surf? considering it as a stand alone, or part of a 2 board quiver as the big wave board, the other board will be a either a simsup or SIC fish for smaller surf.
Thanks for the input.
BTW, 5'11, 185pds, higher intermediate (I think/hope..;)
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is the 9'9 Recon a quiver killer? IE, can do it all from small to OH surf? considering it as a stand alone, or part of a 2 board quiver as the big wave board, the other board will be a either a simsup or SIC fish for smaller surf.
Thanks for the input.
BTW, 5'11, 185pds, higher intermediate (I think/hope..;)
The 9'9" can do it all, but I think a shorter Sup for tighter barrels and ramps is super fun.
It is still a 9'9" board, light but still has that swing. Wave catching machine. Some Stock.
I have the 711 SIC Fish to test..will get back on that one... light and super thin. Some Stock.
Love the Sims, L41 and Infinity Phoenix , Plenty of stock on these.
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Great question which Ralph could comment on as all of my comments are for the discontinued Recon 9. The new recon 9 9 LOOKS like it less focused on larger waves than the 9, but I have never ridden it. Journalistic honesty keeps me from commenting on a board that I have never ridden much less seen.
Given your weight and size it might be a little long as a one board quiver unless that includes flat water paddling ..
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I apologize if this thread is more about the Recon 9.9 than the 9.4, but I'm looking seriously at a 9.4 and was hoping to get some insights into how it performs across several conditions. I know its forte is 4'-8' (I'm assuming Hawaiian measurement scale) but how does it perform in more modest conditions (i.e., waist to chest high)? Also, how is the glide when catching a wave, and also tracking if you've got a bit of a paddle getting out to the break? Thanks in advance...
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My experience to date with the 9'4" it is OK, but not great in smaller waves; primarily a function of the pintail and pulled in nose. I suspect in smaller Hawaiian waves it would be adequate as it has worked in smaller waist to chest here on Cape Cod.
It is a great paddler with lots if glide and you can get in early and paddle to another peak or reef easily. Low volume, narrow, pintail, but also not the most stable arrow in the quiver.
Demo it and compare it with the 9'9" which looks like it would be better in small waves. But I did get shacked much to my surprise and amazement. Loose reins and it knew what to do!
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Thanks MrBig. I forgot to also ask about the board's durability. I know it's quite light but not sure how much of that comes from its carbon elements as opposed to potentially going somewhat light on the glass job... Oh, and you mentioned some instability. Is this in particular for a board of its class, or...?
My experience to date with the 9'4" it is OK, but not great in smaller waves; primarily a function of the pintail and pulled in nose. I suspect in smaller Hawaiian waves it would be adequate as it has worked in smaller waist to chest here on Cape Cod.
It is a great paddler with lots if glide and you can get in early and paddle to another peak or reef easily. Low volume, narrow, pintail, but also not the most stable arrow in the quiver.
Demo it and compare it with the 9'9" which looks like it would be better in small waves. But I did get shacked much to my surprise and amazement. Loose reins and it knew what to do!
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Sorry for the delay. My comments regarding instability undoubtably are a reflection of my current comfort level. 29" wide is narrow for me. However, pintail boards are less stable in general as there is way less board in the water because of the pulled in nose, and the pintail!
My Pat Rawson with a volume of 130 liters at 8'2" is much more stable than the SIC. It is 32" wide and has no glide however.
I suspect the SIC is not any less stable than any other pintail, but there aren't a lot of that planshape out there!
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Scott Trudon is repping for SIC Production in Maui and has been after me to try the new 10'4" X 31" Recon that he recently received. Nice looking ride. I'll give it a go. With all the fun I;m having with my 10'4" Foote I need to at least give it a chance.
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Started on early 12 and 11 foot boards and found the 8/11 to be much more fun. Why would anyone want to ride a 10+'er? For flat water? For a particular type of wave? Why do the Hawaiians use such long boards, at least many of them?
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PB - Hope you "give it a go" on the Recon. A comparison with the Foote would be interesting to say the least!
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I am looking at buying a new (old stock) SIC Recon 9'4. I am an experienced SUP racer, tourer, but very new at SUP surf. I live in VA and will be mostly in VA Beach and NC's Outer Banks this summer. Most of the waves are waist to shoulder in height. It looks like this board will do fine in those conditions, my only concern is that with he pintail and low volume it might be a tough board to learn on or that it is made for surfers with more experience than me.
I am 5'11 and 185lbs. Any insight??
Being 9'4 in length makes me thing it might be ok, just worried about the pintail.
Thanks
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I like the 9'9"
I use it for my gun and when it is fat...
The 9'4 looks good but I think it is more specific to barrel riding...
and hollow waves
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I am looking at buying a new (old stock) SIC Recon 9'4. I am an experienced SUP racer, tourer, but very new at SUP surf. I live in VA and will be mostly in VA Beach and NC's Outer Banks this summer. Most of the waves are waist to shoulder in height. It looks like this board will do fine in those conditions, my only concern is that with he pintail and low volume it might be a tough board to learn on or that it is made for surfers with more experience than me.
I am 5'11 and 185lbs. Any insight??
Being 9'4 in length makes me thing it might be ok, just worried about the pintail.
Thanks
Not sure why there are so many new/old stock of these boards around - especially considering I've never seen one before a few months ago. I picked one up for a song here in San Diego, and I've seen a couple others for sale in HI and CA.
It will work ok for your needs but it's certainly not ideal. It's only 120 liters so regardless of shape it's a "smallish" board for your size as a new surfer. If you get a good deal try it for a while and resell if you don't like it.