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Title: Trolling for waves...
Post by: TallDude on February 07, 2012, 01:22:19 AM
Last Saturday morning I was at SanO. Surfline said 2'-3' and sunny. I guess everyone read it, but the 2' to 3' never showed. There must have been 30 or more people out in "fullsuits"! It was sunny 75 ish, and they are all just standing there with no waves. I decided to trunk it, and do a little 'Trolling" down the coast. I paddled about 1.5 miles and found this perfect little shoulder, solid 3'+, with a steep, fast wave. Only one other SUP'r and one prone guy a little up the beach. I must have caught 25 total speeders, at least. The break was fairly long too. As I paddled back towards SanO I passed another SUP'r trolling, and told him about the spot. When I got back to SanO, there was an even bigger crowd of 'fullsuits' standing there sweating with no waves. I told a few people in the line up that there were waves you just have to paddle about a mile and a half to get to the break. Most of them said they had never paddled that far! One guy said he was going to check it out. He was the only other guy trunk'in it too. Turned out to be a great day, super fun session. Anyone else troll for waves?
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Glider on February 07, 2012, 06:53:35 AM
Thats part of the fun and appeal to standup.   There are lots of spots  where we live providing such as you described.  Most days a wetsuit is the choice of attire
due to water temp, potential wind and air temp.   Lots of nooks and cranny spots that take a little, sometimes alot of effort to get to.  Not always the best wave, but the empty waves and the adventure of exploring them are exciting.  

Starting to see the herd mentality develop in standup, the fear of surfing alone in uncharted waters.  I'm not suggesting doing something unsafe, common sense should prevail at all times.  
                                                                                                                                                                                                              
Herd surfing is something the surfing community has suffered from for years.  

Nothing like touring or surfing funs waves with a few new or old friends.
not 30.  I relocated from So Cal a couple of years ago, even there I was able to find fairly empty waves, (sometimes lesser quality) but empty if I was willing to troll up and down the coast.  Case in point,  I used to go out at Blackies in Newport at day break before work most days.  I would be on the south side riding small peaks alone while on the north side by 7 am there would be 30 to 40 guys grinding each other for waves.  Sometimes I would troll north and poach waves along the finger jetties for a couple of miles.  Done by 8 and off to work.  If the wind was on it I would paddle in the harbor and look at all the nice homes and boats.  Good way to start the day with a nice sunrise on the water. One of the benefits of trolling is you not only get alot of waves you also get a distance paddle work out.  2 for the price of 1.

I guess that makes me anti social or something, or just old !
I'll go with OLD !
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: TallDude on February 07, 2012, 07:43:06 AM
Hey Glider,
I think you nailed it. I too "prefer to be by myself" as George Thorogood would put it. Now I'm old, but I've always been that way. Self employed, set my own hours, work by myself. Now if there is beer involved, I don't mind being in a crowd... I was talking to Colin McPhillps the other day about a crossover board he had made just for trolling. He had a 10' gun made that paddles and surfs well. I've been thinking about making one for myself. I know PSH makes a 'Hull Paddler' that is pretty much just that. It's rethinking the all-rounder board, and making it more of a performace surfing board. As you said, the less accessable beaches are perfect for SUP surfing. 
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Strand Leper on February 07, 2012, 07:59:35 AM
Tall dude,

Was out at my secret spot for steep NW swells Sun dawn patrol.  Nailed it.  Two proners made it out... As soon as they got out, I paddled north about 300yards to a reef that was starting to work.  Me and a buddy... Alone.  Two hours later, 10 guys are on it.... Time to paddle away.

Sunday afternoon son and father in law rent skis... I am on my 14 Chazz.  I paddle down in front of olamendis and wait for the tide to drop.. It does and the outer reef starts breaking a bit.  Grandpa and son riding waves on skis... Me, surfing them on Chazz. Good times.  There were a half dozen paddlers riding nothing at Doho.  Gotta admit that it switched on and off VERY quickly.  Maybe a dozen sets...

Surf is where you find it, or something.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Caribsurf on February 07, 2012, 08:08:16 AM
I echo the sentiments above

for years I would look at distant reef breaks wondering if they were surfable.   Eventually I would talk friends into dropping me off from their boats, but if the surf died or wasn't any good, what an awful paddle back I had ahead of me.  SUP is the perfect vehicle for trolling for waves, and it is fun in the process
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: TallDude on February 07, 2012, 08:17:26 AM
Now, what would that perfect trolling board be?
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: SlatchJim on February 07, 2012, 08:23:56 AM
"perfect board"
Excellent question.  SUP has the ability to put you into so many different situations.  Where some would advocate for shorter and 'surfier' other conditions call for more glide and hybrid performance.  This thread typifies why there is no one perfect board, and why the sport provides such an opportunity for shapers to expand their offerings.

I love these stories.  I've had a couple troll sessions and it's always encouraging to hear the tales of other surfers.  Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: PonoBill on February 07, 2012, 04:11:49 PM
Trolling is what it's all about, though this year I have kept oddly close to Kanaha. No idea why. I've only done a few Ho'okipa days, a couple of Tavares, once off Euro, Spartan's and Secrets on my Bullet (fun!!) and a couple of poaching runs out of the harbor up the coast with Boyum.

I drove around the backside of the island yesterday (west end) to look at Little Makaha, S-turns, Honolua and Windmills. Then continued on and briefly considered begging the locals to let me play at Kahakuloa Bay--there was a nice roller coming in and breaking right. But it's a tough deal. Continued on and saw lots of fun looking stuff down the coast, but the wind was up. I have to try these spots sometime when the wind isn't howling Kona.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: headmount on February 07, 2012, 07:14:02 PM
When the wind is from this direction and this strong, it's good to stay at home... and put the fins on my new Kwad!  All set and ready to go on a real SUS.  So excited but I have to wait till this monster weather is gone.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Strand Leper on February 07, 2012, 08:38:36 PM
Head gonna get bit by da bug!
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: headmount on February 07, 2012, 08:46:35 PM
Here it is brand new at 21 lbs.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: PonoBill on February 07, 2012, 09:03:30 PM
You Dog! Les is gonna give you some serious shit now. That's a beautiful board, I bet it hauls ass.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: headmount on February 07, 2012, 09:05:06 PM
Not with you out there taking all the heat.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: PonoBill on February 07, 2012, 09:07:50 PM
"perfect board"
Excellent question.  SUP has the ability to put you into so many different situations.  Where some would advocate for shorter and 'surfier' other conditions call for more glide and hybrid performance.  This thread typifies why there is no one perfect board, and why the sport provides such an opportunity for shapers to expand their offerings.

I love these stories.  I've had a couple troll sessions and it's always encouraging to hear the tales of other surfers.  Thanks guys.

The perfect trolling board is a starboard 12'6". Put the thrusters in your pocket along with a fin key and it's a decent downwind/cruise, and even race board. Stick in the thrusters and it's not a bad surfboard. The 12'2" is even moreso and makes a great SUP sailor as well.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: PonoBill on February 07, 2012, 09:11:15 PM
Not with you out there taking all the heat.

Too true. He was bitching at me a few days ago because I DIDN'T take a wave. I'm serious.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: surfcowboy on February 07, 2012, 09:34:48 PM
I gotta say that getting rid of my "race" board, I plan to pull the side bites out of my 10'6" Rockett and use that for distance paddles and "trolling" while I decide if I need a speedy board or not.

Glad someone brought this up. For me it's the essence of what our sport is about.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: headmount on February 07, 2012, 09:41:35 PM
SrfCowboy... if you're not going downwind in strong winds or racing, I wouldn't bother with a speedy board.  Equipment you don't use could be amo for the wife.  And thanks...
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Strand Leper on February 07, 2012, 09:42:12 PM
Stoked for you Head!  Looks super loose, super fast, and like it will track.  Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Tom English on February 08, 2012, 09:21:35 AM
I love cruising the coast on bigger boards that surf well.  My favorites are my 11' Ron House quad Rhino Chaser and the new 12'6" Coastal cruiser. It's like driving a big Cadillac smooth glider.
Crowds are a bummer and there is no reason to sit in a crowded lineup when you have the right equipment and attitude.
Aloha,
Tom English
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: CHill on February 08, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
North Carolina inlets and shoals were made for these boards on a small to medium day , 12'6" Mickey Munoz Wateryder set up as a quad is my favorite.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: stoneaxe on February 08, 2012, 05:05:25 PM
I'm with Bill on the 12-6 Starboard. My first and still a favorite. For me it is the perfect coast cruiser. Great glide and good fun for long soulful rides. I had 4 leash plugs installed in the deck of mine during its recent fix. This is definitely the year for me to do a 2 or 3 day coastal camping trip.

A board I still think about often is the Angulo 11-11 we had at the board and paddle showcase. I don't think that exact board ever went into production though. I thought it was slightly better in almost everything than the 12-6, glide, stability and surf. I'd love to have that board as an all arounder.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: PonoBill on February 08, 2012, 08:51:05 PM
I'm with Bill on the 12-6 Starboard. My first and still a favorite. For me it is the perfect coast cruiser. Great glide and good fun for long soulful rides. I had 4 leash plugs installed in the deck of mine during its recent fix. This is definitely the year for me to do a 2 or 3 day coastal camping trip.

A board I still think about often is the Angulo 11-11 we had at the board and paddle showcase. I don't think that exact board ever went into production though. I thought it was slightly better in almost everything than the 12-6, glide, stability and surf. I'd love to have that board as an all arounder.

Despite a fair amount of rocker and a flat bottom the 12'6" is actually a respectable noserider. I think the tail is so heavy it keeps the fin in contact. Or maybe it's just that huge flex fin I have on mine.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: surfinJ on February 10, 2012, 06:53:08 AM
Getting into the ocean, preferably with a large amount of time on my hands,
trolling for ridable waves as I cruise along the coast,  paradise!
The board I started sup on would be the ticket, easy paddlin and wave catching.
Closest beach to my house then north, two miles of beachbreaks till the herds start.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Caribsurf on February 10, 2012, 07:48:21 AM
Hey SurfinJ  I see you are in SW France, anywhere near Biarittz?

 Lovely part of the world you live in, great surf too.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: surfinJ on February 10, 2012, 02:11:48 PM
Greetings Carib, I'm about 15min north of Biarritz, just south of Hossegor.  Like most places, the crowds herd
a couple of spots leaving alot of room elsewhere.  Would have prefered somewhere without winter but ended up
here.  Cést la viè.  Can't complain.  Enjoy. 
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: ChefBoyRD on February 10, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
OOps ,somehow eneded up on the wrong thread , my apologies,
Although I can relate to Pono Bills story, I have driven from Hookipa to the west side a many a times. Looking for those rare spots to turn on.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Caribsurf on February 10, 2012, 03:14:01 PM
SurfinJ you lucky guy what an amzing place to live
surfed there many times (before I started to SUP) from San Sebastian up to Biarritz and a few places I cannot remember the names..
Love St.Jean de Luz...hope to get back one day and troll that coast with a SUP
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: surfinJ on February 11, 2012, 06:49:41 AM
Carib, if ever the chance, contact me for a sup tour of the area.  When the swell
starts to grow past 10', waves start to break inside the harbor of St Jean de Luz,
north and south corners.  About a mile out to sea from there is the big wave tow in
spot Belhara, a fairly close in seamount.
Title: Re: Trolling for waves...
Post by: Caribsurf on February 11, 2012, 09:13:50 AM
That would be a dream trip and thanks for the offer J.  I will be back there one day for sure
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