https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGwzkh8GIRE
That was incredible!
Was it my imagination or did the SUP guys generally look better than the proners out there?
Not your imagination, in the pocket and cleanest barrels by far.
Yeah, but the SUP guy (Kai) looked the best of the proners too. He's the guy on the yellow (what else) board in the first part of the video.
This is my favorite big wave video to date!!! The music rocks, Kai ripping, wavesailling, kiting, wipeouts, and Bethany toeing in. I'm saving this one.
In my opinion the Windsurfers and Robby(my hero) got the best "organic" rides BY FAR. They are in early and going huge and seem to have a lower beat down percentage.
I'm surprised that Niccolo's kite crash wasn't in that vid, it was pretty awesome, so here it is right here.
He's got the surfer's lingoisms and sound effects down cold, he's a riot to listen to.
https://vimeo.com/151275322
And in that first clip, that's Bethany getting towed in, and I'm pretty sure that's Kai who went back out windsurfing when the wind picked up, he's on a yellow board (of course) with at Naish yellow sail, with a silver logo, and a black top.
The windsurfers were dominating.
Awesome vid!
6:36 in the first vid ... great launch
Niccolo is hilarious.
not enthused about the Kai PR machine....but he was a total gladiator here !!! Think the windsurfers were the winners though
Windsurfers looked the most fun to me as well... the late re-entries to backside air where kinda sick.,,then sup. I think kai rips.
To bad chuck wasn't out on his skiis. I haven't scene him out in a while.
Quote from: Zooport on January 11, 2016, 04:44:01 PM
The windsurfers were dominating.
To my eye they definitely looked to have more control than the kitesurfers.
I was searching for the cover photo from 1992 with Robby Naish windsurfing Jaws.
Windsurfers 'discovered' that spot. I couldn't find the photo but this video is a good substitute with a perfect segue to SUP:
http://bcove.me/3td5bz6q
Quote from: Beasho on January 12, 2016, 05:47:53 AM
I was searching for the cover photo from 1992 with Robby Naish windsurfing Jaws.
Windsurfers 'discovered' that spot. I couldn't find the photo but this video is a good substitute with a perfect segue to SUP:
http://bcove.me/3td5bz6q
2:30 "When Stand Up came along it was like everything clicked and it was like okay, that's what I've been looking for in my surfing all my life." Robbie Naish
WORD
Quote from: dabigkahuna on January 12, 2016, 04:17:38 AM
Quote from: Zooport on January 11, 2016, 04:44:01 PM
The windsurfers were dominating.
To my eye they definitely looked to have more control than the kitesurfers.
No doubt, the windsurfers shown are very very good, and agree, things line up better for windsurfing than kiting.
However [looks like Kai Lenny] kitesurfing at 9:50 is just as awesome. The next guy in the red shorts sure is pushing the envelope like crazy! If he looks like he's running scared and hanging on for dear life, look again. He is! Check his line out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OyP31iU60I
DOUBLE WORD
Quote from: NEplay on January 11, 2016, 03:58:22 PM
In my opinion the Windsurfers and Robby(my hero) got the best "organic" rides BY FAR. They are in early and going huge and seem to have a lower beat down percentage.
Robby is also my hero but one huge advantage windsurfing has over SUS (or prone) is foot straps. I love both wave sports, but when SUS'ing sometimes I miss having foot straps. And the power you get from a sail. :) Foot straps are almost cheating, whatever that means. But they do give an advantage over not having them.
Talk to Loch about straps. He was playing with them on his SUP board a few years ago. So was Bret Lickle, and he probably went further with it. I'm afraid Bret is out of the water for a while. He's having vein problems from his leg injury. I empathise, I'm wearing compression socks as I type at my standup desk because my veins don't pump. And I'm standing because sitting screws up my knee. Pretty soon I'll be hanging upside down like a bat.
That would be tricky getting into foot straps on a SUP board. Well, for me it would. At least with a windsurfer you have the sail/boom to balance off of.
Actually Brett had it pretty well figured out. He had a wide strap for his front foot and nothing in the back. For some reason I can't quite fathom Brett creates the impression of a goofy surfer dude, but he's smart as hell and extraordinarily talented.
Be careful if you're going to try foot straps on a board. A couple of friends tried and all ended up with ankle and knee injuries. Straps are only safe when both feet are in them, which is hard to do while surfing. If you fall with only one foot in, you can torque your ankle by your body turning one way and the board with your foot in it goes the other direction. Take it from me, I am now sitting with a cast on my leg and out of the water for the el nino season because of a fall while snowboarding. I had my front foot in the binding and back foot loose while exiting a chair lift. Got tangled up with another passenger, fell, and twisted bad enough to break my fibula.
One of my friends did have some success by mounting two boogie board foam mushroom shaped things on the deck of his surfboard. He'd have his feet under the mushroom lips to keep his feet on the board when doing airs and hard turns.
What Brett developed was more like a belt you could put your foot under, and the edge was rolled so you could wiggle in. The front foot could be positioned side to side. Minimal trapping and a little more control. I saw him get some air paddling over big sets and land on the other side without a wobble. I wasn't impressed enough to want to do it, but it was interesting and Brett was convinced it was useful. Of course he also invented an exercise system that probably only he and Danny MacAskill could handle. Not commercially successful since everyone who looked at it thought "that would kill me"
More on topic, Friday might be the Peahi session of the year. The general forecast isn't for huge, but some local experts say it's going to be immense. Suppatime, we must be neighbors. I'm not sure who you are. I don't walk to Peahi, but it's in easy bicycle range.
Windsurfing looks like it could be fun, but kitesurfing would not be on my radar even at a younger age. Anything that picks you up in a fraction of a second to ten to forty feet then drops you is just the imminent disaster odds waiting to happen. The windsurfers go airborne once in awhile, but not like that.
My neighbor told me he thought he would try it years ago. During one of his first lessons, he was dropped and wound up getting rotator cuff surgery. He is pretty fearless and will do anything, but that was the end of kitesurfing for him.
any sport where the first lesson is how to use the 6 or 7 safety devices with one of them being a knife , you know it's not the safest sport .
Quote from: Weasels wake on January 11, 2016, 04:01:28 PM
I'm surprised that Niccolo's kite crash wasn't in that vid, it was pretty awesome, so here it is right here.
He's got the surfer's lingoisms and sound effects down cold, he's a riot to listen to.
https://vimeo.com/151275322
And in that first clip, that's Bethany getting towed in, and I'm pretty sure that's Kai who went back out windsurfing when the wind picked up, he's on a yellow board (of course) with at Naish yellow sail, with a silver logo, and a black top.
My new fave!
Quote from: PonoBill on January 14, 2016, 11:45:03 AM
Suppatime, we must be neighbors. I'm not sure who you are. I don't walk to Peahi, but it's in easy bicycle range.
Yeah, we are neighbors, at least based on your house photos. We scoured Haiku when we bought so I am pretty sure I recognize your place. We almost bought land just up from you. Remember some guy at Kanaha a couple weeks ago who probably looked like he escaped from the homeless camp and yelled, hey whistling Bill, at you? :) :)
Quote from: SUPcheat on January 14, 2016, 12:31:04 PM
Windsurfing looks like it could be fun, but kitesurfing would not be on my radar even at a younger age. Anything that picks you up in a fraction of a second to ten to forty feet then drops you is just the imminent disaster odds waiting to happen. The windsurfers go airborne once in awhile, but not like that.
My neighbor told me he thought he would try it years ago. During one of his first lessons, he was dropped and wound up getting rotator cuff surgery. He is pretty fearless and will do anything, but that was the end of kitesurfing for him.
Kitesurfing is many times safer than when I first learned (2000), at least we have safety releases now (we didn't back in those days and a number of people were killed as a result). But it's still an extreme sport with all the dangers associated with that kind of sport. Windsurfing, to me, is a little less stressful and and if the conditions get too extreme I can jettison the rig and just paddle in (try to do that on a 40 inch wake board LOL!). Plus, since I haven't really windsurfed in 15 years it's kind of fun to get back into what used to be my favorite sport!