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My new Assymetrical TimSUP

Started by Strand Leper, May 29, 2013, 07:40:43 PM

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SUPerSwede

Maybe a dyneema laminate next time SL?

Strand Leper

Super,

I read a thread on this on Swaylocks a bit ago... it seemed like there was an issue with bonding... (from what I could glean between the gratuitous slanders)...

I am going to look into it.

SL
American Saltwater Angler Magazine's Seven Time Angler of the Year.* Founder and former CEO of "Fishstrong" an organization devoted to the fight against fishbait-hands-smell discrimination.

* subject to revocation due to a pending investigation by the FDA (fisherman drug association)

SUPerSwede

Yeah. There was a cool carbon/dyneema weave that bonded well. I had a windsurf board made out of it that was ridiculously bombproof. That's all over apparently. In spite of this both Flikka boards and Witchcraft build good windsurf boards from dyneema and now Flikka make SUPs too. My Flikka custom seems super durable and well bonded.
Mind you, there are some issues because my favourite board builder won't use it. Maybe he doesn't want to alter his laminating process. He builds strong carbon and glass boards. He used to build helicopter rotor blades so suffice to say his work is second to none.

Strand Leper

Been drafting appellate briefs for the past two weeks... so not much surfing since the last magic swell.  It was fun all week in front of the house, but I just couldn't get out in the water...

Had a design session with Roger Hinds last weekend.  We spent two or three hours going over the boards in my quiver, dimensions, rocker, outlines... and have come up with two new shapes that we are going to mow.  (again, the "we" is in theory only).

Anyway, as I was thinking about the TimAssSUP and the Mach Bobby Roger (my two favorite boards of all time) it struck me at how incredibly different they are.  I was able to ride them back to back last swell.  

The TimAss is just a flat out speed machine with big ears, super longboard type rocker, after getting used to the ears (I almost fell on my first wave as the front third [ears] was "catching") it was really easy to "point and shoot" and surprisingly easy (given the lack of rocker) to backdoor big hollow waves (for for SoCal)... these qualities all translate into a super fun small wave board too.  The drawback of course is the ability to go vertical, the pocket snap while setting up for a section, and the ability to land big closeout moves without needing to stay way back on the tail.  The width makes landing big exits fairly easy (you know the cutout off the closeout where you get a little airborne)...

The Mach Bobby Roger is not as fast... you are forced to use the wave to generate your speed.  Adam tells me that I surf that board better than any other board, as it forces you to commit in order to make it work.  The very pronounced vee with the somewhat narrow tail make it almost unbearably "twitchy" until you understand it.  It fits in the pocket of the wave almost perfectly and I can pretty much make it do anything on the wave that I am capable of doing.  Due to its lack of "natural speed" it takes a bit of a bigger wave (waist plus) in order to have fun on it.

So here is what is up:  Corran making a TimAss with a touch more rocker in the tail; Roger doing his interpretation of the TimSUP, and Roger modifying the Mach Bobby Roger to make the nose slightly fuller and shorter, throw in 2 percent or so more volume, and open up the tail just slightly (to get a tiny bit more natural speed).

Hopefully some shaping posts this weekend.

Oh, and fixing the TimASS and Mach Bobby Roger as we speak.

SL
American Saltwater Angler Magazine's Seven Time Angler of the Year.* Founder and former CEO of "Fishstrong" an organization devoted to the fight against fishbait-hands-smell discrimination.

* subject to revocation due to a pending investigation by the FDA (fisherman drug association)

SlatchJim

Quote from: Strand Leper on June 25, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
Been drafting appellate briefs for the past two weeks...
How close do you have to follow an appellate brief to get the draft going?  ;)

supuk

Hey SL any chance we could see a pick of your quiver all together? with all the different board you have i struggle to put the names and faces of them all and would make you interesting developments a hoe lot easier to understand in my head at least?
best regards
charlie

pdxmike

Quote from: SlatchJim on June 25, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Strand Leper on June 25, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
Been drafting appellate briefs for the past two weeks...
How close do you have to follow an appellate brief to get the draft going?  ;)
I wouldn't want to draft appellate briefs. 

The last time I did, it was so time-consuming that it kept me appellate at night. 


Cardiff Sweeper

Quote from: SlatchJim on June 25, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Strand Leper on June 25, 2013, 10:25:02 AMBeen drafting appellate briefs for the past two weeks...
How close do you have to follow an appellate brief to get the draft going?  ;)

Appellate briefs, as opposed to boxer briefs, can be quite drafty.

pdxmike

Quote from: Cardiff Sweeper on June 25, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: SlatchJim on June 25, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
Quote from: Strand Leper on June 25, 2013, 10:25:02 AM
Been drafting appellate briefs for the past two weeks...
How close do you have to follow an appellate brief to get the draft going?  ;)

Appellate briefs, as opposed to boxer briefs, can be quite drafty.
;D

That might be because the appellates don't fall far from the breeze.

Strand Leper

Smart asses...

Charlie, will do.

Slatch, you have to get REALLY low... and there are LOTS of silly rules that if you don't follow, you get a DNF.

SL
American Saltwater Angler Magazine's Seven Time Angler of the Year.* Founder and former CEO of "Fishstrong" an organization devoted to the fight against fishbait-hands-smell discrimination.

* subject to revocation due to a pending investigation by the FDA (fisherman drug association)

Strand Leper

Quiver shots are a it of a pain...

So here are pictures of the various boards currently in the SL quiver... just the most used boards....

1.  TimASSup:  7'8" by 28 Assym quad.  105 liters (Corran Addison Designs)
2.   Mach Bobby Roger 8'2" by 26.5 quad (close cluster rear)low 90 liters (by Roger Hinds)
3    Mach 1 (Corran Addison Designs) 82 by 26 (pictures is a 25 in version that I sold)
4    Mach Twin (by Roger Hinds) 8'2" by 27 twin 97ish liters
5    TimSUP 7'3" by 28.5 98 liter (Corran Addison Designs)
American Saltwater Angler Magazine's Seven Time Angler of the Year.* Founder and former CEO of "Fishstrong" an organization devoted to the fight against fishbait-hands-smell discrimination.

* subject to revocation due to a pending investigation by the FDA (fisherman drug association)

supuk

cheers sl that great a very interesting bunch of boards, good to see a little outside the box thinking going on.

Surf Dogg

Great read and story...you got me stoked!!  Those are some sweet looking shapes...I was checking out the website.  I live in FL where we usually get mushy knee to chest high wind swell and very occasional epic conditions.  Based on reading up on the different models I think the Retro would best suit our conditions...would you agree?  Any idea what suggested retail pricing is?  I haven't contacted them yet.  Thanks!

supstoked

Lots of foil boards 6'7"-7'4", L41 TVD's and Jimmy Lewis Strikers..