L41 Bruce Wayne model

[Flying Walrus]

Hoping to get insight from anyone who has ridden an L41 Bruce Wayne. I'm interested in buying one. Money doesn't grow on trees so I want to get next board purchase right.
I am 51 and surf multiple times per week if/when there is swell on the north shore of Puerto Rico. My home spots are reef breaks as much as 1/2 mile offshore. I'll never be a great surfer but I have a blast and get out often in overhead waves. Nothing too critical but some power and adrenaline factor.
I have been mainly surfing a 10' x 32" Bill Foote Triton for nearly the past decade. I love the board and do not feel it is holding me back. Vice-versa probably.
But the local crew consistently add to their quivers and it has left me with an itch that I just may scratch. I think I have narrowed it down to a 9.6" L41 Bruce Wayne at about 140 liters. I'm 6 foot, 220 pounds with a plan to get down to around 200. But that may not happen.
With longish paddle-outs and some extra pounds I'm not looking to get a small board. I want stability, I want to get into lots of waves (early) and I want something that can handle what for me is solid surf at overhead. I don't rip but I get some OK turns in.
Any thoughts on the L41 would be appreciated.

[sflinux]

Burchas, Carbisurf, and Madeinsantacruz have ridden the Bruce Wayne.
9'8" x 32" 160L madeinsantacruz
8'10" x 30" x 4.49" 130L Caribsurf
8'4" x 31" x 4.6" 131L Burchas
Links:
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=35263.0
https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php?topic=37633.0
Another review here:
https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Stand-Up-Paddle/Review/Custom-L41?page=1
Video of one:


The shape and fin configuration of the Triton board looks cool.
Sorry, I haven't ridden a Bruce Wayne, but it has been on my wish list to try.  The length of 9'6" and volume of 140L sounds perfect for the waves you are charging.  I have a Joe Blair 9'6" x 30" ~ 140L Pulled in Nose, Pin tail that I like for the waves you describe.  I am 200# and have always felt that a guild factor (gf) of 1.5 is super fun.
I have tried a bunch of L41 boards and each is special for the right conditions.  They are glassed in the Stretch factory so quality is second to none. I like the deck/bottom carbon stringer and carbon rails.  The models I have tried are the S3 8'4" x 32" (gf=1.5), ST 8' x 30" (gf=1.39), S2 7'10" x 31" (gf=1.36), TV Dinner 7'4" x 29" (gf=1.28), & S5 7'6" x 28.5" (gf=1.18).  Those boards feel as stable (and have similar paddle power) as a non simmons shape one foot longer.  With the narrower tail of the BW, I would speculate it is maybe closer to a non simmons shape 6" longer.  So a drop from 10' Triton to 9'6" BW should not be noticeable for front to back pitch stability.  Being the Triton is 32", a 30" BW would probably have a noticeable difference in side to side roll stability.   I'm 6'2" and a 30" non simmons shape board can feel a little tippy when the water gets choppy with turbulance.  Talk with Kirk and he can dial in your wants in the shape/dimensions.  He is of similar build to your bmi goal.
Keep us informed on what scratch satisfies your itch.
When I first got on L41 boards I didn't find them to be stable.  But when you start paddling them in a surf stance (necessary for sub 8' boards), the stability is quite manageable in quite a variety of conditions. 
Video of Kirk riding in Santa Cruz.

He vacations in Costa Rica, I wonder if that is where the Bruce Wayne got its DNA.
I am curious as to what fin set up goes well on the Bruce Wayne.
May be worth asking about his round tail LB SUP too. i.e. 9'6" x 31.5" 140L

[Flying Walrus]

Thanks sflinux. Valuable feedback and much appreciated. I actually have considered the L41 longboard but most likely going to go with the Bruce Wayne with a rounded pin. Don't really know why that tail shape other than I dig the aesthetics of it.

Yeah, Kirk skills and build quality are big draws. I've not seen L41's in Puerto Rico but I'm sure they are here. My orbit isn't very wide as I generally surf real close to home.

As for the Bill Foote Triton I can't overstate how much this board has meant to me. I just love it. I'm not much of a student of shapes. Luckily for me, Foote is a master.

[Caribsurf]

Let me chime in on my time with the L41 Bruce Wayne ..from all appearances and dimensions 8'10" x 30" x 4.49" 130L, this board looked perfect for me. At the time I was riding my Hobie Raw 8'10" by 28" 118 liters and looking for something with a tad more width and stability for those choppy days in the line up.  I LOVE my Hobie Raw and it rips and is fast and maneuverable.  I was disappointed with the Bruce Wayne and eventually sold it at a loss.  It felt sluggish to me and wide and not as easy to throw around as my Hobie. The Bruce Wayne surfed like a SUP and that's what it is. My Hobie Raw surfs like a surfboard and why I still love it although as I get older it's more of a challenge.   I tried to like the Bruce Wayne, but found myself always going back to the Hobie Raw.  for me it was an expensive mistake   I think most people will like the board and for most it would be an upgrade from what they are riding..just wasn't the case for me.

These days I wing foil and don't SUP nearly as much.

[Flying Walrus]

Thanks Caribsurf. Good perspective. A friend of mine has that Hobie Raw. Different animal indeed. Still seems leading edge years later. Bruce Wayne probably more my speed.

[Caribsurf]

you won't be disappointed with the Bruce Wayne, and I probably wouldn't have been either had I not been riding the Hobie Raw for years.  It spoiled me and anything else I tried over the years couldn't compare.  Now that I am a bit older and don't SUP as much as I did, I could use a board like the Bruce Wayne now.
good luck

[burchas]

Here are some of my thoughts about the L41BW. 8'4x31x4.6x130L for my 195Lb
As Caribsurf mentioned, the board is sluggish but I already knew it going in based on the rocker and shape dimensions so I wasn't disappointed.

It was meant for late take-offs and faster waves with steeper sections and for that it was everything I thought it
would be. I felt the board could perform a lot better than what my mediocre skills could push.

The built quality was pretty good overall but it was prone to denting on the standing area.

The reason I sold it was more related to the fact I wan't using it much because of foiling and the quality of
the wave in my home spot that changed after a big storm not offering too many opportunities for that shape.
Trying to work this board in slow gutless conditions wasn't happening for me.

[PonoBill]

I've been a Bill Foote fan for a long time, most of my surfboards are from Bill. I've also owned an L41 though not the Bruce Wayne model. Mine was an 8'8". And I've had 10'6" tritons as pretty much the only board I've surfed for a long time. I understand why you love yours. Big, stable, and maneuvers like a much smaller board. I even bought one for my brother, and I think it's all he surfs as well, though he has lots of boards. Mine is such a quiver-killer that it's the only SUP I still surf.

I loved my L41 SimSUP. I'd still have it but I converted it to my first foilboard (stupid, though it worked really well). You need something waist-high and pitchy to really make them work, but holy shit what a ride in good conditions. It's the fastest board I ever rode with the exception of foils. I've told the story way too many times of surfing with it at Rincon (California, not PR) and rode from the furthest out break (indicators, I think) all the way to the beach in the Cove. Since Rincon is a point break where you generally get just the break you're in because the land curves toward the wave quickly, that was fairly unusual. They aren't easy to get comfortable with, but once you adapt it's amazing. My turns on the Triton are long and rhythmic, the L41 cuts and slashes. So much fun. I think that's a two-board quiver that you never have to replace unless you catch the foil virus.

I don't really know what the Bruce Wayne is like, but if foils disappeared tomorrow I'd get another SimSUP. I'm 220, 6'1" and 76. The sweet spot on the Sims is small, but once you're in it you never have to move your front foot. Moving your back foot to the rail in a sizeable wave turns it as tightly as a shortboard. And if I angled it high across the face of the wave I was a bit nervous about falling off and skipping like a stone. I had shortboarders asking me what it was and where they could get one--at Rincon of course. If TallDude is still on the zone I expect he'll chime in. He's a hugely experienced surfer, and I think his L41 is all he uses. His was a lot smaller than mine, and he makes me look petite.

Ask Kirk for the right fins. I used the Connectors he recommended, and they were perfect. Every other fin I tried was a big step down in performance.

[sflinux]

Ask Kirk for the right fins. I used the Connectors he recommended, and they were perfect. Every other fin I tried was a big step down in performance.

Connectors (typo) = Controllers. 
Agree they work best (S2, S3, TVD, ST) = X-Large Split Keel Quad / Pivot Template.  Can feel a little stiff in small waves. 
For smaller conditions, tried RFC Canard Speed Dialer and they are playful (bigger trailer fin, smaller front quad), wouldn't like them when the waves get bigger.  RFC White Crow is another alternate fin worth trying. 
Also tried keel fins, which I like how it can loosen up backside turns (i.e. assymetrical fin setup).  His boards with channel bottoms go well with keel fins.
None of the above may be relevant to the BW though...

[PonoBill]

Duh, yes, I meant Controllers.

[Flying Walrus]

Thanks PonoBill,

I had not considered a Sim SUP.

I reached out to Foote last week to see if he had any 9'6" Tritons in stock, or knew of anyone who does, as I thought I remembered he was planning some years ago to add that size to his line-up of production boards.

Sadly, Bill said he doesn't know where I could get my hands on one. I would jump at that board. Maybe not even a big enough difference from the 10'32" to justify the purchase. But I would really like to have another one from him. What a legacy he has built.

Japan has always been on my bucket list. Maybe I'll go hunting for Footes over there. Haha.

[Flying Walrus]

Burchas, the BW's late takeoff adeptness you describe does not fit with my getting in early preference. But may just be what the doctor (read shrink) ordered as I work through a healthy amount of respect (read fear) of decent waves. Jaja. Not sure what is braver. Being fearless or getting after it despite your fears.

[Flying Walrus]

Burchas, the BW's late takeoff adeptness you describe does not fit with my getting in early preference. But may just be what the doctor ordered as I work through a healthy amount of respect (read fear) of decent waves. Jaja. Not sure what is braver. Being fearless or getting after it despite your fears.

[surfafrica]

I've never ridden a Bruce Wayne, but I owned a L41 ST (SIMSUP) for a couple of years.  I think of it as a gateway board for me. It really opened my eyes to surfing on shorter SUPS. I was riding 9'0s at the time and went down to a 7'11 on the L41. The difference was massive (in a great way). After a while, the wide tail started to feel sluggish though. At that point, I actually considered a Bruce Wayne but I ended up deciding on an Infinity RNB which took things to a new level.  The RNB still had a wide-ish tail and parallel rails for stability, but was more maneuverable on the wave. My guess is the Bruce Wayne would have fit the bill there too.  After a while on that RNB, I was still wanting something even a bit more agile (even more like a surfboard than a SUP surfer) so I had Kronos shape me a Nano and it was love at first ride--that's my magic board.

[PonoBill]

I reached out to Foote last week to see if he had any 9'6" Tritons in stock, or knew of anyone who does, as I thought I remembered he was planning some years ago to add that size to his line-up of production boards.

Sadly, Bill said he doesn't know where I could get my hands on one. I would jump at that board. Maybe not even a big enough difference from the 10'32" to justify the purchase. But I would really like to have another one from him. What a legacy he has built.

Actually, there's a board rental place in Maui (in Kehana actually - https://808boards.com) that imported more Tritons than Bill did. They had a deal with Bill that let them import directly. They bought them by the container load and sell off the boards after a while. I bought a 10'4" from them a few years ago in great shape. You might contact them and see what they'd sell. It's been quite a while since I was at their place, but they used to have dozens in lots of sizes.