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Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« on: October 09, 2019, 01:37:42 PM »
Hi y'all,

I'm in the business for a new board and have always *loved* Naish. Right now, I have a 2017 7'10 X 27 Carbon Pro and LOVE it. But I've moved to Maine from SoCal and the waves are much mushier so I need to go a bit bigger.

Looking at the 2020 models, I'm a little concerned about the construction - see here: https://www.naishsurfing.com/product/mad-dog-s-glass-sandwich/ It seems like Naish has really been moving to save $$$ (letting team riders go, ditching the true pro models for more width/length to fit a larger audience, and now possibly reducing construction cost).

In the past, I have hated all glass boards. They crack/spider web for me regularly. And it's why I have loved Naish so much - never have I had a break or buckle (I did have a defective/warped board and they warrantied it immediately). See here for a post on 2020 construction post: https://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,35189.0.html

Then again, it's a Naish sandwich and I tend to trust them. Has anyone bought one of these? What do y'all think?
« Last Edit: October 09, 2019, 01:41:31 PM by Sup44 »
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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 02:38:01 PM »
Polyester resin spider cracks. Not epoxy.

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 02:41:22 PM »
Well, you know my opinion since you read my post but in all fairness I'm not familiar with other 2020 models.
If it's the Maliko 2020 you're eyeing, it looks like Naish were going for weight savings over durability. The board is light. but paint chips easily. Unless you're gentle with your boards I don't think it's the board for you.

As for other models. I would love to hear others chime in.
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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 03:14:01 PM »
Yes. The bottom of my 2018 Maliko shows a few very small dents coming from downwinding in waters where river and tides bring small piece of woods floating under teh surface. And everytime I look at these, I am thansful for the durable (if heavy) construction of the 2018 board.
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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2019, 03:29:46 PM »
Polyester resin spider cracks. Not epoxy.

Every glass SUP i've had was epoxy  :o
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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2019, 02:56:24 AM »
Weird if they were spider cracks from flex. We’re they impact dings? Not try to argue what you saw but that’s weird as epoxy normally dents from minor impact and should never spider from flexing. Typically you’d see stretch then break as a behavior.

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2019, 01:53:37 PM »
Polyester resin spider cracks. Not epoxy.

I have no idea about board building but which one is better polyester resin or epoxy?

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2019, 02:14:36 PM »
Polyester resin spider cracks. Not epoxy.

I have no idea about board building but which one is better polyester resin or epoxy?

Epoxy

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2019, 04:13:06 PM »
Why not just look for the companies that are spending more on construction? Not saying Naish are not doing this but in the world of race boards some companies are looking to make way better products that are light and designed to last.

I know us at ONE have invested in now making all our boards in either hollow which is light, stiff and strong and IMO the best performance boards or PVC sandwich which for us is tough as hell and really good weights. We are paying more now than ever to make our boards but we choose to do it this way as i know how much better the end product is.

I think it's exciting times for race board construction and the days of just trying to make boards lighter at the expense of durability is over as now you should be able to get both.


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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2019, 05:06:47 PM »
Any brand that would take the Maliko design and make it with a Jimmy Lewis type of sandwich construction/weight has my vote.
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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2019, 07:02:26 PM »
Why not just look for the companies that are spending more on construction? Not saying Naish are not doing this but in the world of race boards some companies are looking to make way better products that are light and designed to last.

I know us at ONE have invested in now making all our boards in either hollow which is light, stiff and strong and IMO the best performance boards or PVC sandwich which for us is tough as hell and really good weights. We are paying more now than ever to make our boards but we choose to do it this way as i know how much better the end product is.

I think it's exciting times for race board construction and the days of just trying to make boards lighter at the expense of durability is over as now you should be able to get both.

I like what you doing with the board construction Jacko.

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2019, 07:05:48 PM »
Any brand that would take the Maliko design and make it with a Jimmy Lewis type of sandwich construction/weight has my vote.

If thier thinking yes but for now why not find a local custom board and build your dream board or ask Jacko to build you one andstop wasting your $.

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Re: Anyone concerned about the new Naish SUP 2020 construction?
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2019, 09:05:34 PM »
Oh I am not wasting any $ trust me.
There is the shaper that Burchas is using if needs be in the future, but of course there is the distance.
Looks like the construction of the Maliko still guarantee me some more years of good use.
Flat#Naish Javelin LE 14' x 26" 250L
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Touring#Naish Sunova Allwater 14'x27" 319L
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