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Paddle dilemma
« on: February 13, 2019, 03:00:09 AM »
Hi paddlers
Its time to replace my paddle im at a bit of a loss as to what size,brand, etc...
Mainly surf n foilling, good shoulders 49yrs,
6ft x 93kgs.
Paddle now is a 2011 starboard carbon enduro dont know the size.
Was thinking of going to about 90sqcm.
Maybe carbon.
What are you using?
Cheers
Scuba
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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2019, 03:36:29 AM »
You left out the most important detail: how much are you willing to spend?

Plus, what are your priorities? Durability, weight, shaft shape, handle type?

Without further details you’re just going to get everyone recommending what they personally use, and you’ll get a mass of conflicting information since what is right for different people, is different.

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2019, 03:55:59 AM »
When the GoFoil guys come to town, they all ride V-Drive.

These guys are hot right now too. https://blackprojectsup.com/


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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2019, 06:04:15 AM »
Speaking of BlackProject they just announced a new paddle in collaboration with Infinity.  It's a clean, light (14.8oz), 10 degree blade, no nonsense paddle.  I ordered one for flat water but if I like it, I might also get one for surf.

https://blackprojectsup.com/2019/02/08/new-infinity-sup-paddles-by-black-project/
« Last Edit: February 13, 2019, 06:07:20 AM by Bean »

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2019, 07:10:13 AM »
Carbon is critical for performance but exactly how much and quality of carbon leaves alot to be desired.

Alot of folks here use KENALU a componetized paddle GREAT performance, Excellent durability and with the ability to change out components to alter performance (not to mention repairable to perfect) it is hard to beat them.

Not sure I'd go w/90 for surf/foiling but its your paddle

If you want more specfics post here or PM me.

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2019, 07:28:57 AM »
Speaking of BlackProject they just announced a new paddle in collaboration with Infinity.  It's a clean, light (14.8oz), 10 degree blade, no nonsense paddle.  I ordered one for flat water but if I like it, I might also get one for surf.

https://blackprojectsup.com/2019/02/08/new-infinity-sup-paddles-by-black-project/

Is that the BP Lava in different clothes?
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Nalu 11'4" x 30" 180L
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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2019, 07:56:22 AM »
Luc, I originally thought so, but the shaft appears a bit different.  I can't wait to give it a shot.

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2019, 08:07:11 AM »
what i understand to be current conventional wisdom, says that 90 is too big--but who knows??

and, of course, the zre platinum carbon with oval shaft, and kenalu ho'loa, which id id sell you cheap, are in the mid 80's--i will say the zre's version of "the mid-80's" is bigger that the kenalu version

pm me if interested--anyone else too for that matter
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Sunova Creek 8'7"
Starboard Pro Blue Carbon  8'10"
KeNalu Mana 82, xTuf, ergoT

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 08:19:46 AM »
Hey Eastie, in this case 90 is the percentage of CF to FG in the shaft, the blade is a swelt 84sq in.

And Jim, isn't the xTuf shaft a CF/FG blend?  (Also in that same sub - $300 range)

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 09:27:36 AM »
Hi paddlers
Its time to replace my paddle im at a bit of a loss as to what size,brand, etc...
Mainly surf n foilling, good shoulders 49yrs,
6ft x 93kgs.
Paddle now is a 2011 starboard carbon enduro dont know the size.
Was thinking of going to about 90sqcm.
Maybe carbon.
What are you using?
Cheers
Scuba
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Definitely go all carbon.   A couple of ounces in weight savings makes a big difference.   I highly recommend the BlackProject Surge paddle.

I recently upgraded to the BlackProject Surge S77 with Soft Flex Shaft and T-Handle and really like it.   At $450 it was more than I wanted to spend but was the only paddle I could find that met all my criteria.  It is very light (13oz cut to 69") and even though the blade is small I can get some good power when necessary.   

You would not want to go with the soft flex shaft.  At your weight BlackProject recommends the Surge L87 blade with medium flex shaft. 

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Tic Tac Two 6' 7" x 23" x 3.6" x 68L
Tic Tac 7' 0" x 22.75" x 3.5" x 70L

Blackproject Surge S77 (Soft Flex Shaft, T-Grip, +0" OH)

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 10:29:03 AM »
Anon, do you notice the 8 degree blade angle on the BP Surge?

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2019, 02:14:55 PM »
just makesure the shaft has good flex though at 6ft scubasteve you might get away it with some of these full carbon paddle.

Entry nice paddle (carbon mixed 100g more weight) around $177US, med paddle (carbon 50g+ more weight) around $250US+ and top-end carbon paddle (+/- 500g total weight) $425US+

stick to the brand names and do your research or even better test them and talk to others and stay away from those fleabay unknown carbon paddle though their getting better each year 8)

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2019, 02:48:31 PM »
Luc, I originally thought so, but the shaft appears a bit different.  I can't wait to give it a shot.

OK Chris has introduced new shafts and is discontinuing others so that might be the difference.
Javelin LE 14' x 26" 250L
Maliko 14' x 26" 264L
Nalu 11'4" x 30" 180L
Ace-GT 17'4" x 27" 313L
KeNalu Mana 82/Blackfish Salish 71 & Andaman 82
#LAfins GTS 7.5

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2019, 02:55:23 PM »
Anon, do you notice the 8 degree blade angle on the BP Surge?

I cannot speak as of the Surge and surfing but I have a love/hate relationship with the 8 degree blade angle on my Hydro.

I found that it is sometime difficult to just jump from a 10 degree to a 8 degree or vice and versa and really dial the stroke.
My compromisse is to use the Hydro for flat water only where I can really pay attention and take the time for a good stroke.
For down-winding I use other paddles as I find the 8 degree too demanding on my technique to get good results.
When the Hydro is dialled in on flat water, I really like the 8 degree angle and I believe that it also helps maintain your stroke technique even if you do not use the paddle all the time.

Sometime it feels like all my paddles at 9 degree would be the perfect middle ground.
Definitely using a mix makes you a lot more aware of the angle of the blade depending on the template. Hydro on one end, Andaman on the other end (10 degree feels like too much angle) and Mana and Salish in the middle.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2019, 02:59:29 PM by Luc Benac »
Javelin LE 14' x 26" 250L
Maliko 14' x 26" 264L
Nalu 11'4" x 30" 180L
Ace-GT 17'4" x 27" 313L
KeNalu Mana 82/Blackfish Salish 71 & Andaman 82
#LAfins GTS 7.5

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Re: Paddle dilemma
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2019, 04:00:19 PM »
Thanks for all the replies.
Man my head is spinning, lol :P
I think defo carbon.
But blade size i dont know now, i think i will gave to demo a few.
Cheers
Scuba  ;D