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Tried a Sunova One

Started by PonoBill, August 10, 2017, 02:49:30 PM

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PonoBill

Bob and I went to Marconi this AM and found some nice small kine surf with occasional chest high sets. Bob borrowed a Sunova One from Creek and I surfed the BigFoote (which was awesome). After a few hours, Bob swapped with me and I got to try it. Great board. I love the speed and how sharply and well-controlled it turned. I got a few dozen nice rides on it and liked everything about how it surfs. I'm allergic to domed decks of any kind because of my screwball knees (I Supinate--me and less than 1% of the population) but the One dome is light enough to almost ignore (though my knees are aching tonight). If I get one it will be a custom with a flat deck, and maybe dropped rails, though I liked the way this board handled and probably shouldn't screw with it beyond the deck.

I've got too many boards, but maybe with a little housecleaning...
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

supthecreek

Fun to surf with you boys today, glad you got a "do over"!
Perfect summer scene, small clean waves, warm water, light offshores!
Followed by a tasty seafood lunch.

One shot from my Kook Hat Cam and some nice surf shots from "Weed" of Pono on the big Foote and Bob on the ONE

Tom

#2
Not sure why you'd want to mess with the rails but I'd suggest leaving as is. Flat deck shouldn't be a problem. Glad you got to try one.

P.s. where are the side bites?

stoneaxe

Great board......took a little getting used to the deck but it didn't bother me like it did you. My clumsy balance challenged ass was falling more than usual when I was just paddling it because the rails bury so easily. Once on a wave though....the combination of quick rail to rail with the dome and such refined rails made it a lot of fun. Creek said it wasn't as snappy as some of his other boards but it certainly felt snappy to me.....and fast. We didn't have any thrusters in it so that helps but I made it getting around some of those inside sections pretty easy. I was already adapting to it and falling less when we swapped too.

It was weird getting back on the Foote after being on the dome deck for two hours....felt like coming home....but the furniture was re-arranged.

Bob

8-4 Vec, 9-0 SouthCounty, 9-8 Starboard, 10-4 Foote Triton, 10-6 C4, 12-6 Starboard, 14-0 Vec (babysitting the 18-0 Speedboard) Ke Nalu Molokai, Ke Nalu Maliko, Ke Nalu Wiki Ke Nalu Konihi

drfierce

Which size board were you using? These look fun


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SIC Bullet 12.6 TWC
Supsports Hammer 9'5x31

PonoBill

You'll have to ask Creek, it felt like something in the mid nines. I didn't notice it didn't have thrusters in, but it turned crisply and held well as a single fin.

Tom, the boards I own that I like to surf best have dropped rails. No really good reason other than that. Bill Foote does something clever with dropped rails, using the curve to tighten the rocker curve on the rails. Seems to make longer boards turn really well when leaned over.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

supthecreek

Pono, "the ONE" you rode was the 9'5

drfierce

Hi Creek. How does this compare to the Naish Mana 9'5?
Naish Odysseus 9'8
SIC Bullet 12.6 TWC
Supsports Hammer 9'5x31

supthecreek

Quote from: drfierce on August 18, 2017, 04:36:09 AM
Hi Creek. How does this compare to the Naish Mana 9'5?

That's a really fun question.... it took me back a few years.
I watched my reviews of both to get my frame of reference up to date.
You really can't go wrong with either one of these boards.....
but they have quite a few differences, so I'll break them down so you can see which one suits your needs best.

Both boards were shaped by master shapers
Harold Iggy designed the Mana line
Bert Burger designed the ONE

The Mana was designed primarily as a surf SUP.
The ONE was designed primarily as an all around.

The Mana has more rocker and a nice tail rocker that works so well in the Mana and Nalu.
The upgraded Mana has a more pulled in nose and tail than the original Iggy design, but they kept the rocker and tail rocker, so a good improvement to Iggy's design.

The One has a flatter rocker, with a fairly flat tail.
This makes it paddle very well in flat-water
and, VERY fast in surf.

Less nose kick in the ONE, but I never have issue with that.... it's enough.

I always felt that the 9'5 Mana would be a great one board quiver for many people...... IF it wasn't so heavy.
I have had 3 of them and the weight range was almost 6 lbs from lightest to heaviest (See review)

The ONE I have is in the ECO construction (Sunova Economy build) The ONE XXX construction is lighter.
The ECO ONE = 21.8 lbs
The Mana GS = 28.2 lbs

The Mana paddles fine in flat-water.
The Mana surfs very well.
I love the swoopy turns of the Mana on a soft shoulder, because of the tail rocker.
It handled size with ease.


The ONE has fuller rails than other Sunova's because it was designed for ease of use and stability.
It was designed to be the ONE board you need for flat-water and surf, for casual users or bigger riders.
While not designed primarily for surf, I used it all last winter, when I needed extra volume and stability.
It is one of the fastest boards I have and it surfs amazingly well for an all arounder.


the numbers are identical
the Mana 9'5 x 32 = 163 liter
the ONE  9'5 x 32= 160 liters
The big differences are rockers, rail foils and weight

MY full Mana Review from April 2014



My ONE review from Dec 2016

PonoBill

I guess that answers the question of why I thought about stepped rails. I didn't really feel any problem, but full rails just don't look right to me.
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

drfierce

Quote from: supthecreek on August 18, 2017, 06:40:57 AM
Quote from: drfierce on August 18, 2017, 04:36:09 AM
Hi Creek. How does this compare to the Naish Mana 9'5?

That's a really fun question.... it took me back a few years.
I watched my reviews of both to get my frame of reference up to date.
You really can't go wrong with either one of these boards.....
but they have quite a few differences, so I'll break them down so you can see which one suits your needs best.

Both boards were shaped by master shapers
Harold Iggy designed the Mana line
Bert Burger designed the ONE

The Mana was designed primarily as a surf SUP.
The ONE was designed primarily as an all around.

The Mana has more rocker and a nice tail rocker that works so well in the Mana and Nalu.
The upgraded Mana has a more pulled in nose and tail than the original Iggy design, but they kept the rocker and tail rocker, so a good improvement to Iggy's design.

The One has a flatter rocker, with a fairly flat tail.
This makes it paddle very well in flat-water
and, VERY fast in surf.

Less nose kick in the ONE, but I never have issue with that.... it's enough.

I always felt that the 9'5 Mana would be a great one board quiver for many people...... IF it wasn't so heavy.
I have had 3 of them and the weight range was almost 6 lbs from lightest to heaviest (See review)

The ONE I have is in the ECO construction (Sunova Economy build) The ONE XXX construction is lighter.
The ECO ONE = 21.8 lbs
The Mana GS = 28.2 lbs

The Mana paddles fine in flat-water.
The Mana surfs very well.
I love the swoopy turns of the Mana on a soft shoulder, because of the tail rocker.
It handled size with ease.


The ONE has fuller rails than other Sunova's because it was designed for ease of use and stability.
It was designed to be the ONE board you need for flat-water and surf, for casual users or bigger riders.
While not designed primarily for surf, I used it all last winter, when I needed extra volume and stability.
It is one of the fastest boards I have and it surfs amazingly well for an all arounder.


the numbers are identical
the Mana 9'5 x 32 = 163 liter
the ONE  9'5 x 32= 160 liters
The big differences are rockers, rail foils and weight

MY full Mana Review from April 2014



My ONE review from Dec 2016

AMAZING answer thanks so much!


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Naish Odysseus 9'8
SIC Bullet 12.6 TWC
Supsports Hammer 9'5x31