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SUP on some river waves...
« on: May 11, 2009, 04:41:33 AM »

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 06:00:22 AM »
That looks like a perfect river wave.  Now if I could find one like that on the Yampa.

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 06:19:49 AM »
Love the second shot.  The water blur and the cruiser toeside turn gives it that nice flowing feel. 

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 06:57:58 AM »
That looks like a perfect river wave.  Now if I could find one like that on the Yampa.

Heres one for you on the yampa... 1 min 24sec



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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 07:38:45 AM »
Such a cross bow pull, backside with paddle in the open side, needs some technical skill!


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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 07:45:16 AM »
Very cool. I need video to get my head around how you do that.

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2009, 11:55:20 AM »
Great pictures... but jeez.. one fall and you must go backwards real fast..  :o

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 03:31:06 PM »
Hey Corran,
Tell me more about the technique of that cross-bow draw for heelside turns. I've played around with that technique on flatwater, and it feels awkward. Is that technique really more effective than foot pressure alone?

Also, How would it compare to switching hands on the paddle, and then putting weight on the paddle blade while carving hard?

Finally, would you see this technique being more useful on river waves, which are flatter, vs ocean waves, which are steeper?

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Kevin
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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 03:54:14 PM »
I use this on flatter waves where I have the problem of the size and weight of the board and not the wave power and speed to do it just by leaning into it and having the board loose because its fast. The same way that you use your paddle on your "on side" to crank the turn harder and faster and compensate for the boards "oversize" (compared to a shortboard).

It not that "unstable" if you do it right. I'm using the "power face" of the blade the same way I do in a whitewater C1, and pulling to crank the nose around at high speed like I would on my front side with a reverse sweep. It takes a little time to get the technique dialed in so you're not falling or tripping onto yourself, but it works very well for me anyway.

And it feels cool as hell.

I also have been taking it to the next level, using that to "slice" the nose into the water like the classic "blunt" in a freestyle kayak, and doing an "elevated" 180 spin that has the tail about 45 degrees into the air in the spin and the nose under water.... bringing some of the kayak moves to SUP.

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 03:56:20 PM »
FYI - switching for me is slow and cumbersome... I generally don't. Even paddling I use a cross bow stroke. As a whole I paddle 99% of the time on the same side. Better? Maybe not... but that's my C1 roots lol

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 06:38:51 PM »
I wanna see you guys in some surf! I had not thought of this until now: how much more hydrodynamic-flow-understanding can you gain in a constant environment?  +Rocks hurt...Respect!

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 08:32:29 PM »
Corran - Would love to see how you paddle into those standing waves not that I would ever do it.

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 02:10:23 AM »
I wanna see you guys in some surf! I had not thought of this until now: how much more hydrodynamic-flow-understanding can you gain in a constant environment?  +Rocks hurt...Respect!

A hell of a lot!!! Here is one... I can just stand on the wave, turn around backwards and standing there look at the tail of the board and its release, effect on the water, adn then make small turning movements and watch whats happening at the release rocker, and make adjustments on the next board. it's almost "scientific" in that regard as its such constant feedback.

Also, I can try the exact same move in the exact same place over and over until I get it pat. Pretty neat.

Nothing beats the speed and power of the ocean, but still...

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Re: SUP on some river waves...
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 02:14:57 AM »
Corran - Would love to see how you paddle into those standing waves not that I would ever do it.

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Sure you would.

Its not as easy as ocean waves  to catch as right as you take "the drop" you get "sucked over the falls" going backwards and the exact time you need maximum power, you're at minimum balance as you're getting "sucked backwards". I also have to use a small board here - 7'11" x 28" which makes that even harder. At the same time your nose gets sucked down and pearls into the incoming rushing water, so you have to stand further back on the board where its less stable to counter balance. The "drop in" is certainly tough, as is paddling across all the boils and whirlpools to get to the wave. But on the flip side... we don't have to paddle through close out sets and weave our way through angry longboarders who are finally getting some of their own medicine,  so....  ;D

Corran

 


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