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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2017, 10:29:32 AM »
I've been considering building a 4 wheel bike for soft sand. Space the wheels very close together, perhaps butted on the back and wide enough in the front so the bike stands on it's own. Makes sense to try wider tires first. The tire profile is also important. Gently rounded would be best.
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2017, 10:57:16 AM »
Don't forget to air-down...

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #17 on: March 22, 2017, 12:10:21 PM »
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2017, 01:26:25 PM »
You will need the wider tires.  My original 4" weren't cutting it but the 4.5" wide tires do the job even on soft sand.  I got away with just a back tire, but I weigh ~ 180.  Then again I am loading the weight of the entire board on to the system.  A trailer could offset that.  In hard pack a 3" tire will probably suffice, but if your are juicing the system with a motor then why not FATTEN UP THE TIRES.

I agree with Beasho. You'll want wider tires for the beach.

My bike came with 4" tires and I upgraded to 4.7" Surly Big Fat Larry's. It made a huge difference in how well they float over sand. I weigh 170 and run them at about 4 psi.

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2017, 02:50:14 PM »
And I've got 100 lbs on both of you..... :P

That poor little Mongoose is going to get crushed. I'm going to go the cheapest route for now. Maybe later i bump up to a better bike but this will have to do for the moment. I'll be mostly on hard packed sand. You can't ride into the dunes here.....bird sanctuary. In the summer there are 10,000+ seabirds of 5 or 6 different species. I love watching them fish. If there is a bait ball it looks like a Planet Earth out take....100 terns hitting a patch of water 30' across is crazy.
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2017, 02:55:29 PM »
Don't diss the Goose. It's the easiest build and it's hell for stout. the parts that really suck on it are the ones you are going to throw away. Make sure you get the one with disk brakes. Coaster brakes don't cut it when you're doing 35. the 26" Mongoose Dolomite is the one I used, and it's currently $207 at Walmart. Damn, I paid 40 bucks more.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2017, 03:00:37 PM by PonoBill »
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2017, 03:11:30 PM »
I just know that I crush a lot of stuff.... ::)

That post about birds made me think about a long ago zone post....I felt bad for the guy from Texas.
http://www.standupzone.com/forum/index.php/topic,3070.msg25901.html#msg25901

No idea why the youtube link is broken.
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2017, 10:19:29 AM »
The "Wheele SUP Maneuverability" video is almost comical (as in NOT very maneuverable).

With my side-rack design anything you can do on 2 wheels you can do with your board.  I use if for my 12 foot gun, have carried 2 SUP's 7 miles round trip (although this trick was not for beginners).

Here's my bike with rack parked in the stable.  If I think I am going to use the same board for the next session I just leave it on the rack and then head out the next day.

Let me reiterate:  I have NOT used my Car to go surfing for 5 1/2 years.  I have used this design exclusively and logged more than 5,000 miles going to / from the beach.  IT WORKS.  When built properly the rack will come off the bike in less than 30 seconds. 
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2017, 12:31:14 PM »
I used to peddle my surfboard to the beach under my arms for many years before I could drive...hell, in college I even peddled with my board under arm to a couple of outta the way spots in Humboldt (wet & muddy) near where I lived...

I also hooked up a rack on my Honda Trail 90 for surf exploration in the Baja...so, I'm no stranger to this mode of recreational transportation...

It really boils down to a personal preference of where you want your board attached when you eventually crash or dump it...not a matter of if...but, when/where...and I doubt that it will be comical...at least to the driver...;-)

I'll take my chances with this trailer...YMMV...;-)

« Last Edit: March 23, 2017, 12:33:41 PM by SUPsports »
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2017, 02:23:07 PM »
Bob,
I've seen side racks, trailers and overhead racks and no matter what you do you'll be exposing yourself to side winds and a potential crash.  Go slow, adjust speed for the winds, and the good news is that you'll be crashing in sand if you do go down.  I'd probably try all available options to see what works for you.  My money would be on the lowest trailer you could get and not doink your board, but that's just my perspective (one that can't get a damn set of Kayak wheels to work with two boards without doing some auto origami on me). 

You Bowcock boys can build anything; my faith is in that ability, your stubbornness, and your strong desire to surf cool spots near home.  If "necessity" is the mother of invention, then "chutzpah" is the dad!  ;)

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2017, 03:50:15 PM »
I also hooked up a rack on my Honda Trail 90 for surf exploration in the Baja...so, I'm no stranger to this mode of recreational transportation...

Who's the hippy with the Honda??
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2017, 04:34:42 PM »
I also hooked up a rack on my Honda Trail 90 for surf exploration in the Baja...so, I'm no stranger to this mode of recreational transportation...

Who's the hippy with the Honda??

Feral surf dog in the desert look...;-)

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2017, 05:55:27 PM »
Great Vintage shots Wardog.  Legend traveler status!

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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #28 on: March 23, 2017, 07:41:33 PM »
Very sweet pics.

Believe me...I'm not going fast on this.......this whole bike thing is an experiment. I actually haven't been on a bike since I had my brain fried.... :o. My wife is all over me. I'm ordering the bike when we get back. I plan to ride it in my backyard sans motor for a bit before I do the install......helmet in place...she wants me to get a motorcycle helmet..... :P
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Re: Fat bike trailer
« Reply #29 on: March 23, 2017, 07:57:57 PM »
Get a mountain bike helmet--adequate for 40 MPH. You don't want to spend 500 bucks for a fifty buck head. 
Foote 10'4X34", SIC 17.5 V1 hollow and an EPS one in Hood River. Foote 9'0" x 31", L41 8'8", 18' Speedboard, etc. etc.

 


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