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Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« on: February 12, 2017, 04:44:57 PM »
just another happy infinity sup rider.

I use the whiplash 14 x 25 for flat and calm waters.

I use the blackfish 14 x 26 for rough and ocean waters.

the infinity carbon boards are soo light (will weight & let you know soon) and behave differently to each other as expected.

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Img/Photos/Stand_Up_Paddle/11622403.jpg

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/Img/Photos/Stand_Up_Paddle/11622395.jpg
« Last Edit: February 12, 2017, 04:57:20 PM by JEG »

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2017, 04:50:43 PM »
Perfect quiver.
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2017, 02:17:39 AM »
For the weight conscious both board with fin:

14 × 25 whiplash = 9.5kg (20.9lb)
14 x 26 blackfish = 10.4kg (22.9lb)

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2017, 06:40:45 AM »
Wow! Those boards with fins are light in weight for the lengths.
Blue Planet Duke: 10'5" x 32" x 4.5" @ 190 Liters (2 Dukes)
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2017, 07:55:18 AM »
Nice ride JEG. No wonder you're happy :)

Wow! Those boards with fins are light in weight for the lengths.

^ and light as they are, those boards still maintain a solid build.
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2017, 06:50:20 PM »
cheers Luc Benac!

thats correct weight Night Wing, about 0.01-/+ tolerance.

thanks burchas, I think a got most weather condition covered except for proper dw condition though not to say the blackfish can't handle it and I'm no pro so I'm thinking a dedicated surf/dw board is on the list imo.

I just came back from a head wind 15+knts paddle on the blackfish and the nose either piercing through the mini wave or up nice an low and not too high.
Angle/side wind/wave doesn't affect the board's nose and rail that much like other board with bulbose nose and high rail because of its low profile.
On the way home with the angle swell and the tail wind from behind was a challenge as I have to learn to stand way back to trim/glide mini waves and those wide tail help with stability.

The whiplash glides well on calm to flat water condition and every session is a new experience.
   
Can't wait to try the blackfish & whiplash in the mini surf to test their behaviour.

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2017, 09:12:54 AM »
WOW, those are pretty. Absolutely lovely shapes.  8)

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2017, 09:26:54 AM »
I like my Blackfish a lot, but it's not the best for downwind. Just too hard to steer, even with a squirrel-style fin.
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2017, 01:05:20 PM »
I like my Blackfish a lot, but it's not the best for downwind. Just too hard to steer, even with a squirrel-style fin.

PonoBill, with my inexperience dw the new maliko 14 x 26 (tested few months ago) compare to the blackfish 14 x 26 felt good on mini dw even though their almost similar in shape (just look at dj stability dw vids).

Maybe someone here can explain the technical details.

Only difference I can see with the blackfish are the tail marginally wide than maliko, square-ish rail blackfish with round-ish rail maliko and blackfish centre channel approx 290mm wide at 9mm deep at the tail.

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2017, 01:08:23 PM »
Depending on the year of the Blackfish the tail will be a little bit wider, I believe.
Wide 2015>2016>2017
The BF with the full set of fins is often tracking too well for down-winding.
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2017, 07:49:27 PM »
Exactly how wide is the Blackfish tail anyway? On the 26" & 24"...

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 07:57:38 PM »
Exactly how wide is the Blackfish tail anyway? On the 26" & 24"...

On my 2015 24" it is 15".
I do not have the 26" at hand right now but I think that it is closer to 16".
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2017, 09:13:32 PM »
Maybe someone here can explain the technical details.

Only difference I can see with the blackfish are the tail marginally wide than maliko, square-ish rail blackfish with round-ish rail maliko and blackfish centre channel approx 290mm wide at 9mm deep at the tail.

As far as I could tell the Blackfish and Maliko are more different than alike.

Comparing the Maliko 14x24 to my 2017 Blackfish 14x24
  • Maliko is around 20L smaller on the volume at 241L (mine actually is 275L)
  • Rocker line throughout is completely different
  • Narrower tail and much lower tail volume (my tail is 13in wide)
  • Slightly more recessed deck at standing area
  • very different bottom shape
  • different rail shape

There's probably more but it's been a while since I saw the Maliko up close.

If you only look at the 2 boards on paper from birds eye view then, yes,
they look very similar.
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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2017, 10:05:55 PM »
You ridden both?

I've never been on a Blackfish (or handled one). I understood Pono's comment was due to the Blackfish very parallel outline that it's not so turny on a DW. Which is same same feeling I get on a Naish Maliko which has awesome stability for it's width and is a great allround board but is more of  pivot off the tail kind of turner on DWs rather than carving up killer turns.

So what are the differences in rocker and rails? And difference in ride if you know both?

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Re: Infinity Whiplash & Blackfish LTD version
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 12:02:37 AM »
Exactly how wide is the Blackfish tail anyway? On the 26" & 24"...

On my 2015 24" it is 15".
I do not have the 26" at hand right now but I think that it is closer to 16".

On my BF 14 X 26 tail width is 345mm.or almost 14"

 


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