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« Reply #765 on: March 04, 2017, 02:24:09 PM »
As an old white guy, I really do get a kick out of watching other old white guys getting angry at being called old angry white guys. I take with a grain of salt being called libtard, libturd, liberal trash, commie traitor, snowflake, cupcake, etc. Lol.  I remember a young Marine vet coming up to my face and telling me to have a stroke when he overheard my wife and I talking about voting for Clinton and decided to walk over to our table lol.  Likewise I laugh at seeing my fellow liberals get butthurt at these kinds of names or getting angry when they get mocked for saying terms like "check your white make privilege at the door" or "first world problems".  I as a lefty am the first to admit we are just as guilty as conservatives for being overzealous and oversimplifying things as being black and white.  Both sides are full of crap in some way or another and both sides know this (but will never admit it).  And believe it or not, liberals who think like me are not that unusual.   Just like I don't think all or most conservatives are white racist nut jobs.


Yeah, but have you ever been called out for having empathy for a fellow human being?

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« Reply #766 on: March 04, 2017, 02:45:47 PM »
I think they're all secretly working for Trump, and they're just going to wear us down until no one cares.
Yes I've been thinking this as well. If there's one thing Trump excels at  (other than finding time to work on his golf game) is playing the media like a fiddle. Especially given all the shit on Facebook right now, could be a  Russian or government brain worm circulating, making everyone extra stupid and opinionated. Like being locked in your own custom echo chamber with the volume cranked up to 11. Meanwhile the centrifuges are spinning past critical rpms.
That might make an old timey forum such as this, a wormhole of real communication, in an otherwise strange world.
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« Reply #767 on: March 04, 2017, 04:11:21 PM »
Hey, even the real indians like Iron Eyes. He might have been born italian-american, but he lived Indian (native american).  I met a few people in the ad world that knew him--they said he fiercely denied being anything but native American, even when confronted with evidence. Sounds a little like Trump.  FWIW his second wife was Wendy Foote. We'll have to ask Billy about that.

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No, I don't have a solution to making it work better. But what we have doesn't work well. Flint is a good example. So is any contact you have with these folks, no matter how incidental or innocent. Suppose you buy a few acres of land and in one corner you find a 55 gallon drum that has rusted away. You test the soil beneath it and find a trace of dioxin. Now what? I leave this to your own research, but you could start here: https://semspub.epa.gov/work/11/174546.pdf  Good luck. You might get a phone call just for reading it.

I have a lot more experience with FEMA. There's an agency that could be eliminated without anyone being the wiser.

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« Reply #768 on: March 04, 2017, 04:36:29 PM »
Hey, even the real indians like Iron Eyes. He might have been born italian-american, but he lived Indian (native american).  I met a few people in the ad world that knew him--they said he fiercely denied being anything but native American, even when confronted with evidence. Sounds a little like Trump.  FWIW his second wife was Wendy Foote. We'll have to ask Billy about that.

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Re: What a got damn shitshow. [warning politics]
« Reply #769 on: March 04, 2017, 04:46:37 PM »

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« Reply #770 on: March 04, 2017, 04:50:09 PM »
supthecreek: "Carry on.... I gotta go get shit-faced, drive drunk and complain about it when I get busted.
I am sure the networks will carry my plight of the drunk, angry white man, live at 11. Riots of support are sure to follow."

Actually because you are a legal citizen, you won't even make the news, but they will throw the book at you.
Chances are if you would be an illegal alien, you'd stand a better chance at getting off, which in itself had got to have all the legals in jail really pissed off.  A possible case in point.
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Judge Helps Criminal Illegal Alien Escape ICE Officers
3/3/17

A judge in Oregon is under investigation for allegedly helping an undocumented immigrant escape Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers who had come to apprehend him.
Multnomah County Judge Monica Heeranz was notified by court staff that ICE officers were waiting outside her courtroom for Diddier Pacheco Salazar, a Mexican national appearing in connection with a DUI charge on Jan. 27. He had come to plead guilty to the charge in exchange for a suspended sentence contingent upon his entry into a diversion program, according to local media reports.
What exactly ensued is not yet determined, but officials in the local U.S. attorney’s office fear Heeranz guided Salazar out of the courtroom through an employees’ exit and then out of the building.
“I felt that it was inappropriate and delegitimizes the work of ICE agents who are out there doing their jobs,” U.S. attorney Billy Williams told local press. “When you’re talking about the judicial system – whether it’s federal or by state – you have an expectation that people are going to abide by the law and not take steps based on their own motivations, their own politics — whatever the motivation was.”
Salazar’s court-appointed lawyer, John Schlosser, said he did not assist in his client’s alleged escape, and was surprised to learn he made a clean get away.
“I prepped my client,” he said. “I said, ‘I don’t know if they’re going to pick you up outside or what, but here’s how to prepare.’ After the court appearance, I went out in the hallway and sat. My client never came out. I can’t say that I’m surprised he didn’t come out, but I gave him his options, and assume he had to have been escorted out some other way.”
Chief Judge Nan Waller is now leading an internal investigation of the incident.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/03/judge-helps-criminal-illegal-alien-escape-ice-officers/#ixzz4aPM4Sn9M
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Re: What a got damn shitshow. [warning politics]
« Reply #771 on: March 04, 2017, 06:04:40 PM »
As an old white guy, I really do get a kick out of watching other old white guys getting angry at being called old angry white guys. I take with a grain of salt being called libtard, libturd, liberal trash, commie traitor, snowflake, cupcake, etc. Lol.  I remember a young Marine vet coming up to my face and telling me to have a stroke when he overheard my wife and I talking about voting for Clinton and decided to walk over to our table lol.  Likewise I laugh at seeing my fellow liberals get butthurt at these kinds of names or getting angry when they get mocked for saying terms like "check your white make privilege at the door" or "first world problems".  I as a lefty am the first to admit we are just as guilty as conservatives for being overzealous and oversimplifying things as being black and white.  Both sides are full of crap in some way or another and both sides know this (but will never admit it).  And believe it or not, liberals who think like me are not that unusual.   Just like I don't think all or most conservatives are white racist nut jobs.


Yeah, but have you ever been called out for having empathy for a fellow human being?

Oh yeah. 
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« Reply #772 on: March 04, 2017, 06:13:43 PM »
Ok, so let's see if I've got this right. Apparently, according to what I'm reading here, US law enforcement agencies go out of their way to let undocumented aliens off crimes, and instead pick on old angry white guys instead? Is that what you are trying to convince us of?

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« Reply #773 on: March 04, 2017, 06:17:19 PM »
supthecreek: "Carry on.... I gotta go get shit-faced, drive drunk and complain about it when I get busted.
I am sure the networks will carry my plight of the drunk, angry white man, live at 11. Riots of support are sure to follow."

Actually because you are a legal citizen, you won't even make the news, but they will throw the book at you.
Chances are if you would be an illegal alien, you'd stand a better chance at getting off, which in itself had got to have all the legals in jail really pissed off.  A possible case in point.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Judge Helps Criminal Illegal Alien Escape ICE Officers
3/3/17

A judge in Oregon is under investigation for allegedly helping an undocumented immigrant escape Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers who had come to apprehend him.
Multnomah County Judge Monica Heeranz was notified by court staff that ICE officers were waiting outside her courtroom for Diddier Pacheco Salazar, a Mexican national appearing in connection with a DUI charge on Jan. 27. He had come to plead guilty to the charge in exchange for a suspended sentence contingent upon his entry into a diversion program, according to local media reports.
What exactly ensued is not yet determined, but officials in the local U.S. attorney’s office fear Heeranz guided Salazar out of the courtroom through an employees’ exit and then out of the building.
“I felt that it was inappropriate and delegitimizes the work of ICE agents who are out there doing their jobs,” U.S. attorney Billy Williams told local press. “When you’re talking about the judicial system – whether it’s federal or by state – you have an expectation that people are going to abide by the law and not take steps based on their own motivations, their own politics — whatever the motivation was.”
Salazar’s court-appointed lawyer, John Schlosser, said he did not assist in his client’s alleged escape, and was surprised to learn he made a clean get away.
“I prepped my client,” he said. “I said, ‘I don’t know if they’re going to pick you up outside or what, but here’s how to prepare.’ After the court appearance, I went out in the hallway and sat. My client never came out. I can’t say that I’m surprised he didn’t come out, but I gave him his options, and assume he had to have been escorted out some other way.”
Chief Judge Nan Waller is now leading an internal investigation of the incident.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/03/judge-helps-criminal-illegal-alien-escape-ice-officers/#ixzz4aPM4Sn9M

This is the very site that A10 explained makes a point to do articles that are either completely false, or half truths or maybe even true but regardless have the end goal of creating outrage for it's own sake.   

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« Reply #775 on: March 04, 2017, 06:32:33 PM »


This is the very site that A10 explained makes a point to do articles that are either completely false, or half truths or maybe even true but regardless have the end goal of creating outrage for it's own sake.
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« Reply #776 on: March 04, 2017, 06:34:30 PM »
I think stoney is the smart one here.

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« Reply #777 on: March 05, 2017, 05:00:06 AM »
Assuming those stats are spot on.

3,000 deaths for a population of 319,000,000. Im sure America will carry on. Besides I need my avocado for my morning toast. 

Id be willing to bet a mortgage payment that texting and not obeying stop signs and speed limits by white American males cause far more fatalities. Add alcohol and my stats would skyrocket. 


Personally, I much prefer the folly of the human condition to the blatant and abrupt divisive policies of our oligarchy.

Exactly! If someone is getting themselves all hot and frothy over a couple "illegals" but they are fine with the government, they have no clue what is going on. I'm happy to take my chances with the "illegals". It's this government I want out.




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« Reply #778 on: March 05, 2017, 06:24:37 AM »
Hey guys.....notice that it's all testosterone fueled here.....can you do me a favor....and I mean this from the bottom of my heart. Please lets stop this. We are nothing but a reflection of the worst of what we can be as people and what our society has become. We are all brothers at the base. These political threads have done damage to a place I love and and caused  hard feelings between people I've come to respect with views from both sides. Regardless of your views I think you can agree that this is getting us nowhere and only bringing disrespect and derision. Every time I come in here I feel like I just stepped into a room full of monkeys flinging their shit at each other.
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« Reply #779 on: March 05, 2017, 08:25:32 AM »
This one is really bad Bob. Really hard to forgive the support for this nightmare.
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