What a got damn shitshow. [warning politics]

[SUPcheat]

It's entertaining, which is why I gravitate to such places. I can't drive into Santa Cruz before I am laughing right away at some character toodling along.

[pdxmike]

...and it seems like the ones that are too nutty to fit in there move up here to Oregon.

[lucabrasi]

It's entertaining, which is why I gravitate to such places. I can't drive into Santa Cruz before I am laughing right away at some character toodling along.

Years ago the downtown area was a real treat for people watching. It probably had Telegraph in Berkley beat. I've wondered about that off and on and found this. Seems to ring a bell the quake did it in.
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/article/ZZ/20091003/NEWS/910039896
I really need to get back that way someday.
PITCHERS AND CATCHERS HAVE ALL REPORTED.
I always just thought I was loud, I didn't know it was an American thing.....whew.

[johnysmoke]

I remember seeing the most beautiful little chickie waltz through a street in Santa Cruz completely topless and carrying a bag on her head. I was probably 21 at the time and knew I would never see such perfect breasts again in my lifetime. Only spent a summer out there, if I had to do it again would have gone to school at UC Santa Cruz.

And suddenly there are Russians everywhere... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35706238

[SUPcheat]

When I was in pro school at UCLA and lived on the Venice canals in 75 through 77, they did topless modelling shoots all the time on the beach around the pier.  It was pretty routine.

I still miss the cheek shots while driving of beautiful young girls wearing nothing bikinis riding bikes around Long Beach when I lived there in 80-81.

There were a bunch of tatted hipster photographers doing a pretty elaborate model shoot at Privates stairs a couple of weeks ago. 

Ironic, the grips and hangers on held a towel around the model while she disrobed and changed clothes. The pierced, tatted assistant looked at me like I was a perv for looking when I went up the stairs.  She was posing nearly nekkid, anyway.

[PonoBill]

In that respect, if my US colleagues are in a group together in a bar or restaurant, they will usually be the loudest there Why *do* you guys talk so loud haha!? This observation was actually first pointed out to me by one of my US friends btw, before you bite my head off..

I agree. I hate loud talkers--women who laugh like hyenas on crack in a nice restaurant. Men who keep raising the volume instead of listening. It's some kind of national insecurity, coupled with public manners that can only be described as "I can do whatever I want."

The only positive thing about people being rude, staring at their phones, is that at least the STFU. Until they get a call, and they want everyone in the room to hear what they are saying.

One of my daughters was briefly convinced that her kids should be raised like wild Indians.  I told her she could do as she pleased, but I wasn't going to be in public with them. Fortunately she got tired of the misbehavior and started leaning on them The two boys had so many "time outs" they had flat spots on their foreheads.

They're older now, and can be reasoned with. I tell them that manners are a measure of who they are. The oldest boy has asked us for dress suits for Christmas for several years.

[southwesterly]

This is pretty telling of the Trump administration:

A reminder: Trump did not fire Flynn, but he fired the woman who warned him Flynn was compromised   (washingtonpost.com )

[Bean]

Perhaps it's only "telling" us what we want to hear.

(Fark.com huh?)

[addapost]

Perhaps it's only "telling" us what we want to hear.

(Fark.com huh?)

Ummm what exactly do you mean by this ^? It is a fact.

[tautologies]

So at what point does a man who claims fake news...and then obviously has a poor grip on realities loose credibility with his followers?
SO many of his claims are demonstrably and empirically wrong...to me that discredits everything. This isn't a guy who is attempting to get at truth and then makes a mistake, or who learns and adapts, it is someone who believes he is right by definition and that realities should adapt to him. That is incredibly dangerous.   

[Area 10]

Wow - did you see Trump's press conference today?

The anti-Trump media are reporting it as unhinged. I wouldn't go that far. But his endless attacks on the media is getting tediously repetitive. If the media is reporting things that are untrue, why doesn't he take the opportunity to set the record straight in these press conferences, rather than just make vague accusations of "fake news"?

[southwesterly]

Perhaps it's only "telling" us what we want to hear.

(Fark.com huh?)

Great thing about facts. It's like science. It's either true or not.

In this case true. No matter where you read it.

Maybe pass this along to King Donald. He needs a dose of science.

[SeldomScene]

This is pretty telling of the Trump administration:

A reminder: Trump did not fire Flynn, but he fired the woman who warned him Flynn was compromised   (washingtonpost.com )

Disclaimer:  I am not a Trump supporter.

That fact may technically be true and does make for good theatre, a good zinger or one-liner, but the firing of Sally Yates is a completely different event and in no way related to Gen Flynn's resignation.  It doesn't help "the cause" to posit such banal and brief observations which any moron can see right through. 

[PonoBill]

^^ Agreed. I'd really like to see the media and the opposition raise all this up about five levels. It's the way to neutralize him. As it is now, I just assume everyone is lying because there are so many bleats that are just obviously not true, or at the very least not true in the manner they are presented.

[lucabrasi]

Wow - did you see Trump's press conference today?

The anti-Trump media are reporting it as unhinged. I wouldn't go that far. But his endless attacks on the media is getting tediously repetitive. If the media is reporting things that are untrue, why doesn't he take the opportunity to set the record straight in these press conferences, rather than just make vague accusations of "fake news"?

I've clicked here and there and seen bits and pieces. I would agree with you there.  He didn't seem way unhinged but more flustered. His campaign schtick seems to be waning a bit.......thank goodness. I saw "chaos" as a headline to click and "mess" as well. He inherited a mess alright. Never heard him blame Obama...
I agree on the media thing as well..........getting old but cnn is one of the places I saw some and by golly if the stuff in the sidebar for other things to watch didn't have snl sketch like stuff for headlines attached to them.  I clicked here and there....lost interest.....couldn't be bothered. Maybe he'll turn them into the new national enquirer. Best thing to happen to them since before the internet. Hell, I don't know.
He almost seemed out of his league. I can't even imagine how that guys life has changed over the last 6 weeks. I think it is just starting to sink in.