What a got damn shitshow. [warning politics]

[tautologies]

Stone, your willingness to excuse pretty much anything Trump does with anything Clinton is very odd.

How do you react when you see Spicer's actions?
http://www.press.org/news-multimedia/president/2017/01/npc-statement-potus-and-spicer-comments-towards-journalists

First say no one can estimate to then go on and conclude that is was the most attended ever?? Trump's attitude and threats towards the press is extremely worrisome.

Anyways...turns out Trump speech at the CIA was cheered on by his staff and not CIA.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-cia-meeting-full-support-condemns-media-isis-a7539766.html

We are in for a lot of lies and deceit. Believe me that I would be at least as critical towards Clinton if this was her attitude and actions.

[Admin]

Rick Perry.  Hot damn.  Can I protest that?  Shit, yes.  I'm in Portland.  If I get a band and a beer tent it could be worth a street closure.

This is a F#$# You cabinet.  It is a Billionaire favorfest.  17 people with more combined wealth than a third of Americans.  Surprise, surprise.  Bring back Brownie!

[stoneaxe]

I'm not excusing anything Trump does. I think the guy is a dick. I'm simply laughing at the hypocrisy you guys are displaying. Pointing at corruption in Trump while ignoring it in Clinton. You say why is Hillary being brought up....because you all voted for the corrupt liar...now you're complaining that Trump is a corrupt liar? I can support Trump in one regard...blow away the status quo in Washington...a from the ashes rose the phoenix kind of strategy. Much of what Trump represents I don't care for...but I have a couple overriding issues where we do align. Enforce our current immigration laws and rewrite them so they are practical and logical, we need a compromise solution that is good for US business and citizens. I also want to slow the roll of globalization. I don't know that I'm really going to get those from him but I do know it was going to get worse under Clinton.

I don't think Trump will be re-elected unless his policies bring about a "Huge...it's going to be Huge" improvement to the lives of average Americans. If they don't see change the guillotines will come out again. My best scenario...he fixes our immigration mess and helps slow the bleeding of globalization in his first term...then he gets booted 4 years from now and the country elects someone who is moderate and rational and we stop the partisan power politics bullshit. Much of what we see is pumped up to create the divide...the more divided the more impassioned, the more impassioned the more you will ignore the arguments of the other side regardless of how rational they might be. I don't hold out much hope though...too much invested by both sides in keeping divisions in place and because the press makes money on controversy I don't think we'll see those echo chambers changing anytime soon.

You guys are also bothered by his attitude towards the press? The press deserves his disdain. If they are so concerned about how they are treated maybe they should stick to news and facts and not try to spin everything to fit their ideology and generate clicks amongst their faithful. The press deserves a slap for how they've been operating...but of course they are doubling down. If they stop spinning things to the left (or right in the case of Fox) they'll lose what viewership they have. You point to the NPC website like it means something..."The National Press Club welcomes a healthy discussion and debate on the stories of the day. However, it's absurd and unacceptable to insult and impugn the motives of credentialed journalists for accurate reporting"   what a fucking joke....start reporting accurately and that statement means something, otherwise..STFU.

[johnysmoke]

And there goes NATO...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193

[stoneaxe]

And there goes NATO...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193

United Nations actually....and I doubt this will be anything but a tool to bring pressure on the UN...which I'm not against.

[Area 10]

It's scary how closely Trump fits the profile of a typical demagogue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue

[surfafrica]

Not sure why everyone is so worked up. "Alternative facts" are waaaay more fun than fact facts. Wheeeee! #overheadforsure #sopitted #fishwasthisbig #earthisflat #notdrunkalternativesober #lukeiamnotyourfather #potatopotatto

[Bean]

It's scary how closely Trump fits the profile of a typical demagogue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue

Nah, in order for Trump to be a true demagogue, we'd all have to be, you know, ignorant and stuff...

[Bean]

And there goes NATO...
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193

Saber-rattling...not for the faint of heart.

My standard reply to this type of behavior in the past would have been, here come the threats of US bond redemptions (from the international community).   But Trump has already put the world (international bond holders) on notice, he will default as needed. 

[PonoBill]

On all of this stuff, I have to say, so far, right on. NAFTA is stupid. Worse than stupid--WTF is there in NAFTA that benefits the US? I think Bob is totally out to lunch on immigration, but I do believe it should be orderly. Pretty funny seeing how no one can get anything done in SoCal these days because the Mexican economy is pretty good. Instead of fifty guys standing around outside the gates of Fairbanks Ranch, there's five, and they don't look so good. Most of the stories I read in the media about immigration are stupid beyond belief. Bleeding heart stuff.

Really? Talk about tone deaf.

I also think Trump is a Dick, but dissing the intelligence community? Really. Who the fuck cares. If you've ever spent time with a federal organization you know in any meeting there are ten guys vying for the top spot, twenty guys kissing the asses of the of the ten, and four people doing the work. the four people do the work because it needs to be done. The rest are just bullshit. Showoffs, suits, and a couple of people you'd have a beer with. If you don't know that, then your experience is lacking and your opinion isn't worth spit.

DC is like France in the reign of the Sun King. A bunch of powdered, privileged, do-nothing schmucks surrounded by supplicants, with a new king who understands that there's no way he can gain their loyalty. Even if Trump is a total schmuck, the only way he can function is to co-opt them. Not just government, but the media lining up to give them blowjobs, and three layers of useless before you get to people who actually give a shit about the job.

Yeah, it needs a grenade, but it's going to be messy. And yeah, I had to really hold my nose to vote for Hillary. I understood that she would do nothing to change what needed to change. Obama lied about hope and change. With Trump I'm afraid he didn't lie.

[yugi]

The Netherlands welcomes Trump in his own words

[Bean]

And, clearly these happy Hollanders support Trump

My point is simply that there are extreme views wherever we travel...

[PonoBill]

The Netherlands welcomes Trump in his own words

That was great, it's true. Fantastic. I loved it. It's true.

[SUP Leave]

Great posts ^3 above.

Ponobill is right on about a bureaucratic meeting.

It was apparent on day 1. Trump is not going to change. He is going to just keep rolling grenades at the establishment every chance he gets. Sure, some are going to roll back to him before they explode, but he is just going to pretend it didn't happen. He is also going to remain an easily offended NY Democrat. He signed some easy stuff to make his party/base happy, but I got a feeling the right is going to be scratching their head over this guy real soon.

[mrbig]

Yugi, Loved that vid!

Keystone Kops Alert.

Buy bituminous now before the price increase.

Cough cough cough!