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Dani_Blum

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Hello ive just boght a new board, the starboard hypernut 8'6.
Usualy i used to surf a f-one manawa 9'6x31.5 with 157 liters.
On my f-one i used to catch waves with my fits in parralel...
Now with my hypernut iam missing a lot of waves and some1
told me to try and catch the waves with surf position.

Now my questions are....

1) when a short sup have high volume compared to the surfer, does this increasing wave missing ?

2) when catching waves on a surf position do i need
  To take a step forward and lean on my front foot?

3) will it be better useing a small size paddle
     instead of medium?

Thanks a lot ;)
« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 02:50:50 PM by Dani_Blum »

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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2016, 02:58:27 PM »
Your new board is a foot shorter, so it turns faster as you are paddling and has less glide.  You will need to catch the wave a little later when it is steeper and make up for the increased yawing by adjusting your stoke technique to reduce the yaw and/ or turn into the wave a bit later.  Getting into the surf stance earlier will help when you are catching a wave, especially on a steep take off when you have to move your weight back quickly.

Regarding your questions:
1) when a short sup have high volume compared to the surfer, does this increasing wave missing ?
No.

2) when catching waves on a surf position do i need
  To take a step forward and lean on my front foot?
Yes, if you are trying to get on the wave early before it's steep.

3) will it be better useing a small size paddle
     instead of medium?
Using a smaller blade can make acceleration easier but either will work with the correct technique.

These are some videos that should help you:



« Last Edit: October 03, 2016, 03:09:08 PM by blueplanetsurf »
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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2016, 04:00:35 PM »
Your observations going to the shorter Hypernut are the same observations I had going to the shorter 8.7 Sunova Flow:

 Liabilities: I will catch fewer waves, I need to be on steeper parts of the wave and have later takeoffs closer to the shoulder, I will need more powerful waves, I will get less general glide when paddling and entering.

  Rewards:  narrower turning arcs, easier turning on the wave face, faster turnarounds when facing the wave, faster buoy turns, more fun and smoother turning in general after the wave is caught.

As stated, short choppy strokes to accelerate.

I think you can make these generalizations when you go to significantly shorter boards and reverse them when you go to significantly longer boards.  Of course, board shape will also matter i.e. standard surf shape vs. long board type shape vs. tomo etc.

As a rule, standard surf shape i.e. tear drop point front, curved rails and narrow tail will be hardest entry, with long board shape and Tomo shape somewhat easier with more parallel rails.
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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2016, 01:07:31 AM »
This has been discussed at length several times. Go to technique here. Look for thread Short Board 101 started by Burchas. It's all there.

I still recommend google short board technique. Watch the vids. Modified kung foo stance take off late and have fun 😉!
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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2016, 02:51:44 AM »
Thanks everybody for the help :)

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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2016, 07:35:23 AM »
That's why I'm addicted to my 10'4" Foote instead of my 8'8" L41. simply the ease of getting waves--and stability that enables me to move more on the board. The 8'8" is great in critical waves, where I take off in the pocket of a breaking wave, but there's no way to catch the 80 percent of waves that don't arrive like that. At least I can't. I get a couple, but it's a lot of work and I can't run to the nose and paddle like a madman as I do on my BigFoote.
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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2016, 05:45:28 PM »
A lot of the wave catching issues I see have more to do with technique rather than board volume. Watch people on low volume boards catching waves early. They PLANT that paddle DEEP and PULL with their whole body. It's like an exaggerated up and down movement. This is a quick movement that is heavily front loaded.
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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2016, 03:53:26 PM »
Is the board a 2016 or a 2017? I can speak to the 2016 model but the volumes are different. Also how much to you weigh?

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Re: Having problems catching waves with my new starboard hypernut 8'6
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2016, 11:26:13 AM »
Stroke and stroke harder.  Here is my buddy on his 6'10x26.5.  He's 5'9 and approx. 165-170 lbs.

Don't wait ... go after the wave.  Surf stance, paddle for the wave, use the strokes and front toes pressure to turn the board toward the beach, stroke and stroke harder (notice he pressured the front foot to drive the nose into the wave on this particular small wave.


 


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