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Should the Hot Chicks On SUP be kept or killed

Keep
60 (61.2%)
Kill
31 (31.6%)
Don't care
7 (7.1%)

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2016, 02:56:03 PM »
If I was Ruler for a day, the rule would be: "The woman pictured is the only person able to post the photo." 

Why should some random/randy dude be able to copy/paste her picture from the internet?  Without permission, it's a violation of privacy ...probably covered with that 1960s excuse; "If she didn't dress that way?!".

I ogle as much as the next guy but I'd never be disrespectful publicly. 

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2016, 03:21:05 PM »
Wetstuff that is the best idea I have seen so far.

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2016, 04:57:44 PM »
I'm not saying that anyone has to do anything, I really don't care in the end.  But as someone who wants this forum to thrive. (Admin, I obviously have found an Internet home here, thank you.) I just think that it could improve the viewership and add some participation from a new group. Read that as money in the admin's pocket.

As to politics, that's all in random along with all the other flotsam and jetsam. Remember that Hot Chicks is right up front in General Discussion. So in my mind, and only mine, that constitutes agreement or endorsement by the board.

I could be wrong I am all the time. I appreciate this forum, love the folks here and want it to thrive. I'll shut up now. I got a board to glass. ;)

Should the thread continue, it really should be moved from General Discussion to Random.  Absolutely.

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2016, 05:01:41 PM »
Wetstuff that is the best idea I have seen so far.

I agree with Wetstuff, too, but can't you just hear the cacophony of virtual shouts saying "well, she posted it on the internet, it's fair game!", "it's in the public domain!", etc, etc, etc......
I like the previous comment that if you wouldn't post a similar picture of your mother/wife/daughter/girlfriend/granddaughter, then don't post it!

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #64 on: May 29, 2016, 06:41:21 AM »
So is it all pictures that are subject to this exciting new version of fair use, or is it just the ones you don't like?
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #65 on: May 29, 2016, 07:00:34 AM »
I love Westuff's perspective.

So Pono I hear ya on the Random category and it is in the right place for the thread as the forum is organized right now. My thought about adding a more specific category is more about the realities that I think most of us  have acknowledged. For example human bodies are beautiful, sexual orientation and cultural biases, evolution and genetics influence what shapes and sizes we think are beautiful. Unfortunately in some environments like patriarchies(most common so far I think we can all agree) cherry picking a certain form over other forms to worship gets a bit out of hand and is subtly and sometimes not so subtly reinforced in unhealthy ways and here is the hard part - excused and normalized.  So we understand the issue and we recognize the issue when we see it so lets just name it- Sexualizing and objectifying women in appropriate ways for an athletic forum.

So yes "Men Behaving Badly" is an entirely dumb and mean name for a new catagory, I am sorry,  so how about the "Soft Porn Category"- I would be cool with that.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #66 on: May 29, 2016, 07:32:05 AM »
So is it all pictures that are subject to this exciting new version of fair use, or is it just the ones you don't like?
Oh gosh no. It's the ones I don't like.

I have thought about what I said earlier.......about "getting it" and not posting a photo of my daughters in there.
Looking back through there some....and taking the latest entry from gjbstandup "Summer is here" as an example.....I am not so certain I wouldn't.
Pretty certain I would post my wife....damn certain I would post my girlfriend if that was the case. My mom? I might.
It all depends on the context and presentation on how and why I would post something there which is the same reason someone else would post one of someone of that relation in there.
I have not posted such people with those relations to me in there............for many reasons but....there are plenty examples in there why I would......and also why I would not.
Some of the arguments made against it are just beyond me.....absurd...some I have mentioned and some I have not.
Some of the arguments made against it there have been made pretty good......thought provoking if nothing else.
blah, blah, blah, blah.......
But that's just what I think, and as said above.........that's all  that matters.

My...........did the whiskey make me think. Very nice.

A couple days........less than 100 votes. That's what's wrong with this world......people just don't get out and vote anymore.


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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #67 on: May 29, 2016, 07:48:19 AM »
Maybe there's surf somewhere. If there was wind here today I'd be long gone. as it is, unless I think of something else I'm going to ride my trike up to the shop and clean it. The far end of the spectrum of boredom.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #68 on: May 29, 2016, 07:49:28 AM »
So yes "Men Behaving Badly" is an entirely dumb and mean name for a new catagory, I am sorry,  so how about the "Soft Porn Category"- I would be cool with that.

Hey, I'm fine with dumb and mean.

A little soft porn from the 4th century, probably banned under the new fair use doctrine:

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2016, 08:13:08 AM »
So yes "Men Behaving Badly" is an entirely dumb and mean name for a new catagory, I am sorry,  so how about the "Soft Porn Category"- I would be cool with that.

Hey, I'm fine with dumb and mean.

A little soft porn from the 4th century, probably banned under the new fair use doctrine:



Pono you are not dumb or mean so that is confusing. You don't see the more subtle impacts being a privileged straight, white male has on your perspective  because you are so far from mean or dumb and that is tricky for you.

Porn is awesome soft and otherwise.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #70 on: May 29, 2016, 09:11:17 AM »
It's a dumb thread,  and one I wouldn't miss (and haven't missed since once succumbing to the lure of its click-bait title). But I vote to keep it,  because I dislike the trend in our society for the offended to try to banish ideas,  images, and speech that they dislike rather than simply ignoring them.

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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2016, 11:23:59 AM »
I think we could at least banish it to the Random off topic section.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2016, 11:32:47 AM »
I think we could at least banish it to the Random off topic section.


+1  What about it Admin. Can we at least do this much? Surely no one could object to this.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2016, 12:14:59 PM »
Pono you are not dumb or mean so that is confusing. You don't see the more subtle impacts being a privileged straight, white male has on your perspective  because you are so far from mean or dumb and that is tricky for you.

Porn is awesome soft and otherwise.

The basic rules of society may seem like a lowest common denominator, but that is generally because they have evolved over time, through lots of mistaken efforts, to create some reasonable standard that society fundamentally accepts.

I do confess my straight male viewpoint makes me wonder how a gay woman could fail to understand that the right to freely and openly express one's sexual nature is a recent and hard fought victory over one group of people trying to tell another what to do and say, based on what offends them. Of course the battle is hardly over, but it's a different world today than when I was a kid. I hate people trying to force their standards on others. I've seen what it does over the last fifty years. This is a trivial example, but it is an example. I have no interest in trying to change anyone's opinion, I'm not dumb enough to think that's possible, but I'm happy to pose arguements against actions they seek to compel, and against the bizarre ond poorly considered logic that supports their arguements.
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Re: Hot Chicks On SUP-Keep or kill
« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2016, 12:27:45 PM »
If you think about it, Admin is sort of like God. 

If he (He?) takes down the thread, it takes away the opportunity for people to argue, disagree, persuade, make mistakes, see consequences, rise to the occasion, learn...

It's why it's important for kids to play with each other without referees involved.  It's messier and unfair, but potentially more beneficial in the long run.
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