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sic future pro vs pro-lite
« on: May 04, 2016, 12:18:25 PM »
Hello everyone, been lurking a year and grateful for all the info, not so much for the pics\vids of all the beautiful places you all live. :o

Not sure how to phrase this...I guess I am asking for length/volume/balance speculation. 

How much would these boards differ for a 5'10" 140-150lb male w/ excessive balance plus also wants a challenge, looking for something zippy and tippy.  Almost always on a lake (Missouri)  Also already have two more stable boards for nastier conditions.

Manufacturer-weight/volume-current-board-Reference: 11  x 28.25  208L  (says for under 170)

Board A: 12'6" x 24.6   208L
Board B: 11     x 24       195L (rep says "designed for kids up to" 115, but skill levels vary)

Would board B be too tippy? (though this is partly the goal and sounds fun)
Would the water line be too high and ride like a sunken log?

Any thoughts/opinions?


A is 12.6X pro-lite
B is FX Future pro

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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2016, 01:31:22 PM »
If you just  want a board to play around with for  balancing and general workout, the kids the FX future will probably fit the bill,
water line will probably be higher than what the design calls for so you'll be slow and you'll have to stand back somewhere around 2  feet from the natural position. This board does not "play nice" with its nose very low and it's also getting a lot slower.

If going fast is somewhat important to you, go with the x pro-lite. it will give you enough challenge if the conditions gets windy and bumpy.
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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2016, 01:35:23 PM »
Why would you want to go so short? Longer boards are more fun to paddle IMO, and for what you want you could get something like the Starboard Sprint 14x23 or the narrowest, lightest 14ft SIC. If your fitness and technique are good you'd go like a rocket.

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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2016, 05:30:47 PM »
Gotta ask how much time on the water you've had, usually takes a year on a 26" before jumping on a 24". What's you current board?
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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2016, 06:13:46 PM »
Go for the 11' for more of a fun tippy balance challenge - otherwise the 12'6" for more zippy traditional paddling. 

Either should work ok for your purposes - but would expect the 11' to sit pretty low in the water.

Have paddled 14x23 boards and some are very stable.  Really depends on the particular board and your balance level.
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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2016, 08:30:07 AM »
Random thoughts/background
I race mountain bikes and went all in this year to try to upgrade to a pro license--I'm 33 and going to add kid #2 in the next year--point being I train enough and am going to be backing off.  While I like to paddle/play hard, I am not looking to train/race, or for maximizing incremental average speed gains. (I'll believe you if you tell me I am wrong :D )
RE: length/speed: Though faster is better than slower and I appreciate glide and acceleration, 3.5-5mph seems slow either way. A small % increase will be negligible for me (I think; I'm certainly susceptible to being bitten by the "bug"). We all know it's the motor, and I have plenty of room to improve technique and power for "speed" (since I am built like a cyclist). 

Gotta ask how much time on the water you've had, usually takes a year on a 26" before jumping on a 24". What's you current board?

Only a year, but I'm not sure I'm on the standard learning curve, I spent all winter squatting on a balance ball.
http://enduro-mtb.com/en/hitting-the-gym-with-nino-schurter/

Thanks guys, I think you guys have answered me though, it would work, with a penalty.  Have to decide if it's worth that trade off.  Consensus seems to be longer/faster is more fun/better.

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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2016, 11:08:54 AM »
Really does depend what you are looking for - but with the swiss ball exercises your balance should be just fine.  You will get bitten by the speed bug for sure - as faster is always more fun.  And if you start racing at some point - you will want a quick narrow flat water 14.

Have been closing my eyes paddling for a while now - and that has helped tremendously with balance.  As well - running downhill at full speed is fantastic for split second foot placement - especially using just Vibrams on sharp rocks and gnarly roots.  Just took my 20 something daughter with me yesterday and she loved running the mountains with me.  So much more fun - a moderate 50 min pace up - and a fast 25 min dn.  My wife is starting to do this as well.

The varied sport specific exercises in the vid are a great all body approach.  Really can appreciate the single leg explosive moves and ab exercises.

http://youtu.be/EC-tA1ZqWlU
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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2016, 01:53:10 PM »
Given this information, I would suggest that you get a custom 14fter. You could be the first person on the zone (that I know of) who uses a sub-20" wide board. The degree of glide would be addictive.

If you really want to test your balance, head to the ocean. It's a whole different story, and many expert flat water specialists suddenly find their legs turn to jelly once they hit the sea. There is a reason why the best SUP racers in the world are virtually all from an ocean background.

You could also try a few races. It's easy to balance when you are in charge of what is happening to you, and you are working within your comfort zone. It's a completely different story when your heart is at 99% of maximum and you have other people's wash, or buoy turns etc to deal with. The balance skills of Connor, Kai etc are extraordinary.

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Re: sic future pro vs pro-lite
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2016, 03:25:20 PM »
Definitely flat water is much much easier - so going very narrow is a must for a bit of fun.

Was just in fairly large ocean slop and chop on our AW 30 Touring pintail and was practicing closed eye paddling wherever possible.  Works a charm the rougher it gets  - and is much better than the swiss ball.  Great for relaxation and concentration.

The good thing about messy conditions is that it fires all your proprioception musculature that flat water simply cannot.  Got the pintail to semi-plane a few times DB so that was a bit of sprinting fun.

Any tippy board is fantastic for your balance and will make DW or paddling narrow boards a breeze.  Always go out in windy conditions on your lake so that you can have a bit more fun.
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