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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #60 on: June 27, 2016, 03:15:33 AM »
Folks - social media is the WRONG platform for all of that talk..

It's just bitter & twisted and it owns you!

Try and survive without FB and report back  ;D
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #61 on: June 27, 2016, 03:20:28 AM »
If FB goes - so does UKSUP

Let's rename stand up in the UK - FUP ?
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2016, 03:31:01 AM »
Folks - social media is the WRONG platform for all of that talk..

It's just bitter & twisted and it owns you!

Try and survive without FB and report back  ;D

Hmm, some deleted comments now. What did I miss ?

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2016, 05:12:15 AM »
Area10, I agree the Ace has a rolly feel. It's an acquired taste, but has proven very successful by those that have mastered it. I’m looking forward to your review of the Equinox.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2016, 05:14:35 AM »
Referring to a comment about splashing nose syndrome - you can ride this board slightly back so the nose rides as bit higher and reduce splash.  The tail is very buoyant so doesn't begin to drag even for me at 95kg.   We've been putting it up against the UBoat as well which has a piercing bow and results were interesting.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2016, 05:20:16 AM »
Bit of a downwind shot for you
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2016, 05:23:22 AM »
We've been putting it up against the UBoat as well which has a piercing bow and results were interesting.

Do tell...... :D

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2016, 05:59:37 AM »
Excellent pics!  :)
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2016, 06:28:27 AM »
Area10, I agree the Ace has a rolly feel. It's an acquired taste, but has proven very successful by those that have mastered it. I’m looking forward to your review of the Equinox.
For sure. Absolutely. That's why I have an Ace 14x25 carbon. A oleasure to paddle? Umm...no, not really. Effective? You bet. It's for people who care about winning, and does what it does very well. No-one can argue with the race results, and it's still the board the pros reach for when the race has mild chop or downwind, even though the design has been around a while.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2016, 06:38:43 AM »
Folks - social media is the WRONG platform for all of that talk..

It's just bitter & twisted and it owns you!

Try and survive without FB and report back  ;D

Hmm, some deleted comments now. What did I miss ?

Are you reading something else UKRivers? Where did that come from....must have missed something. I'd say the 2016 AS has good primary and exceptional secondary stability. It ain't like the one you used to have a few years back. But that's my opinion of course.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #70 on: June 27, 2016, 06:52:40 AM »
Once again....that link/review is written by someone connected to JL sales.

Oh...don't get me wrong in anyone thinking I am bashing JL....I'm a big fan of him....but hate all the social media pushing by the back door that ALL brands do.

I don't mind that they are connected, I do mind to that lack of disclosure. Mind you, I have now added content in my signature to keep mine as transparent as possible.

Re the 25 Allstar and Mistral.....have a chat with Nick Watt at SUP Store as he rides both. Yes, he sells both but I could bet you he would give you his own opinions on both boards quite freely. Always found him an honest bloke....and he is a big guy like yourself I think.

Thanks. Yep, I know Nick well and he's sold me a couple of boards in the past. I'll likely tap him up to borrow an Allstar.

He has a X25 for demo.....it is the non carbon one.

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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #71 on: June 27, 2016, 07:59:11 AM »
Maybe time to start a new post re the Starboard AllStar - Pros and Cons as this is getting confusing.
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #72 on: June 27, 2016, 08:05:20 AM »
Referring to a comment about splashing nose syndrome - you can ride this board slightly back so the nose rides as bit higher and reduce splash.  The tail is very buoyant so doesn't begin to drag even for me at 95kg.   We've been putting it up against the UBoat as well which has a piercing bow and results were interesting.

Where do you stand with your heels exactly?
I mean that the board works best with the heels at the position at the shark on the handle (92 kg).
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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #73 on: June 27, 2016, 08:36:27 AM »
OK, so I weight in at 95kg dry.

I pretty much paddle with a switched stance even on the flat water runs so am not able to give a true answer, but how we test on the canal for glide is quite simple.

Pace out a comfy stroke rhythm.    Don't go hell for leather as it tends to tip you back and forth.   Focus on a good technique with a very perfect catch as possible.

Keep your eyes on the nose of the board at this point and just keep rolling along.  We're not trying to win a race here.

I remember Danny Ching saying he counts and tbh that is how i used to showjump horses to maintain calm when things got a bit intense.

The board will throw spray off those as the steeper edges of it touch water, BUT, if you come back an inch and drop your weight just a fraction to the back foot you will notice the spray hugely reduce and the board will peel along more freely.

It's like anything.   Get aggressive and the returns are often far less per ounce of effort put in.

We've been working on this board for quite a while and have a really good understanding of it, in particular the tail end that has that nice kick up.   Comes in very handy when trimming lengthways and on buoy turns or surfing as Area 10 said earlier.

IMO - a piercing bow can be a pro and a con depending on the linear/lengthways balance of a board.  At my weight if you cannot trim it evenly from nose to tail then you're often pushing or dragging.



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Re: Jimmy Lewis Sidewinder - will it, won't it DW
« Reply #74 on: June 27, 2016, 08:37:31 AM »
Referring to a comment about splashing nose syndrome - you can ride this board slightly back so the nose rides as bit higher and reduce splash.  The tail is very buoyant so doesn't begin to drag even for me at 95kg.   We've been putting it up against the UBoat as well which has a piercing bow and results were interesting.

Where do you stand with your heels exactly?
I mean that the board works best with the heels at the position at the shark on the handle (92 kg).

.... and whilst that might avoid the nose splash, won't that then change the trim of the board negatively and then just move the drag problem behind you where you can't see it ?

One of the things I was taught with aero (but it might not apply to hydro) dynamics is that its better to have a bluff body problem in front (and then tidy up the flow behind it) then to have a clean fluid flow but then finish with some feature that leaves the flow turbulent with nothing left to tidy it up.
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